UK civil war?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MrConspiracy

Their futures count for more put it that way.

Because, quite simply, our children and young adults, are our future!

I am a young adult. I was in my early 20s when I voted to REMAIN.

But I believe in democracy and I don't believe in childish behavior because you don't get what you want.

Brexit won in the referendum. People need to accept it.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: sapien82

At least I'm not an old Scottish snowflake......

WHo ye callin auld grandad ?

a reply to: MrConspiracy

It's farcical that Remainers are screaming about democracy whilst ignoring the referendum result. Actually it is sickening hypocrisy.

originally posted by: MrConspiracy

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MrConspiracy

Their futures count for more put it that way.

Because, quite simply, our children and young adults, are our future!

I am a young adult. I was in my early 20s when I voted to REMAIN.

But I believe in democracy and I don't believe in childish behavior because you don't get what you want.

Brexit won in the referendum. People need to accept it.

So it's childish behaviour standing up against something you disagree with ?


So the miners strikes and steel strikes , Thatcher sold off and closed the mines and the steel factories and the shipyards , so those workers were just being childish were they ?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: MrConspiracy

I #ing hate snowflakes and hipsters etc.

But to say they shouldn't have a voice or an opinion is ridiculous.

Of course they should....when I was that age I had a burning rage and an opinion on everything......40 odd years later and I still have!

We want our youth to think and challenge and question.....we just don't want their opinion based purely on pc dogma and hyper sensitivities.

I was their age(ish) when I voted.

Everyone deserves an opinion. But not one that aims to block democracy. their arrogance and childish behavior is embarrassing. And that goes for parliament too. And the EU.

It's all been a massive farce because they didn't get what they wanted. And I voted remain. So.....

originally posted by: sapien82

originally posted by: MrConspiracy

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MrConspiracy

Their futures count for more put it that way.

Because, quite simply, our children and young adults, are our future!

I am a young adult. I was in my early 20s when I voted to REMAIN.

But I believe in democracy and I don't believe in childish behavior because you don't get what you want.

Brexit won in the referendum. People need to accept it.

So it's childish behaviour standing up against something you disagree with ?


So the miners strikes and steel strikes , Thatcher sold off and closed the mines and the steel factories and the shipyards , so those workers were just being childish were they ?

If they aim to block democracy because they don't like it. Yeah.

And don't bring miners etc in to this. It situational and not relevant to this discussion.

a reply to: MrConspiracy

I'm 44 and i voted to remain.

Brexit did not win the referendum where i hail from nor in Ireland.

Hence our ambivalence to accept crap lies on the side of buses.

People will never accept Brexit without a plan, which is still miraculously fecking nowhere to be found.

Quite simple really.

People won't accept Hard Brexit.

a reply to: andy06shake

But has no relevance to Brexit.

The gap between the rich and poor has grown over the years and we have seen society become obsessed with profit and money.
All during the time when we have been part of the EU.

The working mans biggest strides forward were all gained before we joined the Common Market.

Why must Brexit mean further decline for workers rights and pay, its not as if the EU has protected workers pay over the years?
Quite the opposite.

And its equally true to say that the EU has protected big business and even enabled their interests to the detriment of ordinary people.

The EU is not the great benefactor many would have us believe.....aux contraire.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MrConspiracy

I'm 44 and i voted to remain.

Brexit did not win the referendum where i hail from nor in Ireland.

Hence our ambivalence to accept crap lies on the side of buses.

People will never accept Brexit without a plan, which is still miraculously fecking nowhere to be found.

Quite simple really.

People won't accept Hard Brexit.

But yet the majority voted for Brexit. Sorry it didn't go your/our way, but halting Brexit shouldn't be an option now.

a reply to: sapien82

Sorry, "wean Scottish snowflake". Apologies. And less of the grandad, thank you.

a reply to: andy06shake

People will never accept Brexit without a plan, which is still miraculously fecking nowhere to be found. Quite simple really. People won't accept Hard Brexit.

Really? Like all the people who voted for the Brexit Party?

a reply to: MrConspiracy

Not the majority in Scotland nor Ireland where our vote counts for very little compared to the rest of the UK.

Why does England not just leave the UK and leave the rest of us alone?

If only it was that simple i suppose. LoL

a reply to: andy06shake

A bit off topic but there was a poll recently in a builders/trades site asking what income you would need to comfortably live on . Depending on location the figures came back between 40-70k for the main bread winner.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MrConspiracy

Not the majority in Scotland nor Ireland where our vote counts for very little compared to the rest of the UK.

Why does England not just leave the UK and leave the rest of us alone?

If only it was that simple i suppose. LoL

Off ya pop then, good luck surviving without us. Enjoy the Euro.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Quite the predicament, and hence the palatable division.

Same people, who voted for Farage?

a reply to: MrConspiracy

In time i imagine, given UK politics are broken beyond repair.

Need another referendum first.

Ireland as well i imagine.

a reply to: andy06shake

I voted for Farage. Sorry.

a reply to: andy06shake

Oh here we go - keep voting until you get the result you want.

a reply to: Freeborn

Well if the Tories remain in power after Brexit austerity will stay with us.

Do you imagine they give a real rats arse as to workers rights and pay?

I don't.

Hence all the zero-hour contracts combined with a minnimum wage nonsense that keeps so many people in indentured servitude.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MrConspiracy

In time i imagine, given UK politics are broken beyond repair.

Need another referendum first.

Ireland as well i imagine.

It's always easy to blame someone else. Ireland and Scotland both had very close votes also. Less than 10% difference between leave/remain. Don't pretend you all think the same.

I do however, agree UK politics are broken.