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Dave Chappell said "if women can kill their babies, then men can abandon them"

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posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 10:13 PM
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Furthermore: If the woman later marries, her husband may adopt the child legally. The natural father has no power to oppose this. (If he has chosen abandonment.)
edit on 7-9-2019 by bloodymarvelous because: - Need to be clear this is tied to the previous post. This is a hypothetical situation where we allow men to abandon.




posted on Sep, 9 2019 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: The2Billies



Gender equality MUST go both (strike that sorry - ALL) ways or there is no gender equality.


When men can get pregnant, we'll talk about gender equality as it applies to parenthood.

Regardless of the gender of the child, it needs to be cared for. Both parents are responsible for the care of their own child, once it's born.




When men get pregnant - it has happened





This post disturbingly reminds of the George Orwell 1984 quote.

"*War is Peace
*Freedom is slavery
*Ignorance is strength
*Man is woman"

There are many chimpanzees that were raised as humans. If I showed you a photo of one wearing clothes, I'm sure you'd agree with me that it is a chimpanzee and not a human. Even though in that chimps mind, it is human.

It is not being a 'bigot' to say that it's a chimp and not a human. And let us be clear what a bigot is. "a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions". A bigot is not somebody making a simple observation that is based in reality.


You see a chimp is a chimp simply because of DNA. Male humans share 99.9% of DNA with other Male Humans and only 98.5% DNA with male chimps. That 1.4% difference in DNA is so huge that humans and chimps are two totally different species.

But here is the problem. No matter how many adjustments one does to a chimp to make it human, shave it, teach it to learn sign language, make it look human etc etc. It will never be a human. Because reality says so. The best you can do is to make it look human.

And here is another problem. Men and women share 98.5% of DNA with each other. The EXACT same difference between Male Chimps and Male Humans and Female Chimps and Female Humans.

You see, the "men" in the photo that are pregnant are not men. It is scientifically impossible for that to happen. It doesn't matter how much you try and get about it with your Orwellian speak. It is just not true. At best it is a notional idea of reality.

And let us be clear what reality is. "The state of things as they exist as opposed to an idealistic or notional view of it".

And although George Orwell didn't have that last part of the quote "Men is woman" in his book, since he wrote 1984 to be a dystopian sci-fi and not a horror. He did say language is important. I think peoples views of "abortion" would also change simply in the language they use when talking about the subject.

Oh and Dave Chapelle is spot on.

edit on 9 9 2019 by Debunkology because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 11 2019 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

I lived in Germany for 6 years. Did you know if a single mother is under 18 she must go to court and prove she alone can support the child or it is taken from her at birth and put up for adoption.

In Germany if adult parents fail to be able to support their children they are quick to remove the children and the biological parents are given a short window to remedy their situation (Germany gives parents a tidy sum every month for every child under 18). So if the money from the government plus the parents salary won't or doesn't support the child, for whatever reason - including drug and alcohol abuse - the child is removed from the home. The only exception is the parent is disabled/ill but still able to care for the child, then the parent also receives support from the government. But if the money is abused and the parents still can't care financially for the child, the child it removed from the home. Then after the short window, put up for a closed adoption.

I find this to actually be quite a sensible alternative to long term foster care which ruins the lives of many children who turn out to be poorly functioning adults.



posted on Sep, 11 2019 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: CajunMetal
That's bullsh#t.
Maybe if we didn't already have a culture of men not supporting the babies they make women wouldn't feel the need to abort. If there were a culture of men being held accountable, going out of their way to pay child support, etc., and *then women were just willy nilly aborting then he'd have a point.


Um we do have a culture of women willy nilly aborting babies. My daughter had a room mate in college who thought nothing of getting an abortion when she got pregnant. It was basically her form of birth control. She often never even told the sperm donor. This was not unusual among the women in her dorm and no one in her entire dorm thought anything of it and talked her into the first one. After that, pffft, pregnant in a prestigious college, no problem, don't tell the sperm donor, go to the clinic, and viola, problem gone.

We have a culture of men not supporting babies, because women often take the child support and then refuse to let the man see the child, or move far away with no forwarding address. This is so common that there are lots of stories of this just on this thread.



posted on Sep, 11 2019 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: jjkenobi

originally posted by: CajunMetal
That's bullsh#t.
Maybe if we didn't already have a culture of men not supporting the babies they make women wouldn't feel the need to abort. If there were a culture of men being held accountable, going out of their way to pay child support, etc., and *then women were just willy nilly aborting then he'd have a point.


Black, Hispanic, and Other all have the top demographics for abortions. Are you saying those cultures have an issue with men supporting babies/family roles?


Excellent point www.naturalnews.com... More black babies are aborted than born. So yes the argument that was made could be considered patently racist.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: CajunMetal
That's bullsh#t.
Maybe if we didn't already have a culture of men not supporting the babies they make women wouldn't feel the need to abort. If there were a culture of men being held accountable, going out of their way to pay child support, etc., and *then women were just willy nilly aborting then he'd have a point.


Um we do have a culture of women willy nilly aborting babies. My daughter had a room mate in college who thought nothing of getting an abortion when she got pregnant. It was basically her form of birth control. She often never even told the sperm donor. This was not unusual among the women in her dorm and no one in her entire dorm thought anything of it and talked her into the first one. After that, pffft, pregnant in a prestigious college, no problem, don't tell the sperm donor, go to the clinic, and viola, problem gone.


I think that only offends you because of your religion, believing a pre-cognitive being has "a soul".

Suppose you got in a car accident and your head was severed from your body. The head then falls into some burning gasoline and is completely incinerated.

Doctors are able to take your now headless body, and put it on life support. A pacemaker keeps the heart beating, electrical impulses to the lungs keep it breathing. Food is sent down the esophagus by a tube. This is now all that remains of you, but it's alive.

Some religious group out there might actually believe that it still houses your soul. And therefore taking it off of life support would be morally wrong. They might picket the hospital, maybe even send death threats to the doctors over if if they make that decision.


- I'm telling you this story because I want you to see how a religious outlook can appear to someone who doesn't share it.

- I'm hoping you can see how you look to me, advocating for an entity that has no working brain, and can't be having thoughts like people have thoughts.





We have a culture of men not supporting babies, because women often take the child support and then refuse to let the man see the child, or move far away with no forwarding address. This is so common that there are lots of stories of this just on this thread.



Men who don't want to be in a relationship often make asses of themselves on purpose, as a tactic to try and force the other person to "be the bad guy" who broke it off. Even behaving abusively if nothing else works.

If he's making enough of an ass of himself, then logically it makes sense she would want to get away from him.

And he'll tell you that story from his side, hoping you'll pity him, rather than be disgusted by his unwillingness to do something difficult, like support his own family.


edit on 15-9-2019 by bloodymarvelous because: I felt one comment I made was a bit too unkind.



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 04:00 AM
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Well: some issue with the whole 'financial abortion' concept:

A: Now the state (AKA you and me) is paying for that baby. Not the asshole that bailed on it.

Up go everyone's taxes.

B: A # load of men will take this as carte blanche to knock up as many women as humanly possible.

I know a guy in the UK who has fathered 17 children and has contributed financially to none of them. He's also a complete lowlife who shouldn't have had any kids at all. He managed to make all these kids despite spending half his adult life in prison. I am pretty much already against unfettered welfare for single mothers for that reason alone. Welfare is dysgenic.

C: A lot of men are pulling the 'of course I love you' BS in order to get the girl to put out. The woman involved often believes that she is in a LTR and isn't a just booty call. For this whole 'financial abortion' idea to be valid and fair, there would need to be some kind of up front legal agreement that this arrangement is just for sex and he would need to state he doesn't want kids with her, to her face. And then he probably won't get laid at all unless she is a hooker.

D: you are going top get a # load more STDs as men bail on condoms.

E: When a woman bails on a child via an abortion, there is no child left needing material care. Situation over.

I'd like to add, being on the hook for child support isn't even close to being knocked up and then responsible for the child as a the sole carer when the father bails. Pregnancy is a massive deal to go through.

Unless you were drugged and she mounted you with no consent, get over it.



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