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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: The2Billies
Maybe we should just temporarily sterilize all the little XXs and XYs and refuse to reverse it till they can show the maturity, competance and intelligence to not screw around with just anyone willing to play.
Make life a little simpler.
WTH would make one night stand Joe think he should have a say about what one night stand Jane does with her body!
Here's an idea... shotgun wedding time!!
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
If the mother can't afford to feed, house, clothe and provide medical care to the child, society has to. Why should society have to pay for a dead beat dad's responsibility?
And the mother that can't afford all those things isn't dead beat because...?
She's Catholic?
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: Sillyolme
Like men haven't been abandoning their kids and families since forever.
No not all men but they sure don't need an excuse like this to do it.
And the kids they abandon, those mothers decided not to get abortions.
When you assault the nuclear family and the idea it takes 2 parents to raise a child and say it only takes one don't be surprised when this happens.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: The2Billies
That doesn't address the question to which my post was a reply.
There are many reason why a women would choose NOT to abort, including religious reasons. One reason why a woman would choose to give birth to a child she can't afford is her religious beliefs.
when society says males have no say and no choice in parenthood.
But only one is allowed to make the choice, I'm sorry that makes her completely responsible.
I'm sorry, saying women need a man to take care of their choice and to take care of them, is so anti-feminist.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
That's not true. Men, legally, just don't get the final say when there is no agreement between the two.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
There is no "good argument" for a man to abandon their child or children.
originally posted by: jwlaffer
a reply to: The2Billies
Well said. It's funny that people opposed to this line of thinking (equality of choice) rely on moral arguments as a basis to strip men of having any choice (e.g. "because we as a society don't allow men to abandon their children").
Yet these are the same people who would scold you for raising morality in the abortion debate.
I get that it's the woman that has the child.
When it comes down to it.. Ideally I think it is between the people involved. I don't think a woman should be able to just keep the baby then demand things like child support.