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Are people finally catching on how dangerous ANTIFA really is?

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posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

I’m gonna have to disagree with you on that. I’ve been to Austin, Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco. It’s almost as if they modeled themselves after each other.

They all are full of college students who seem to have forgotten they graduated, junkies, new-money techies, and communist book stores.

To say that Austin is unique is to deny the existence of every other city just like it.




posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When should Antifa be considered a legitimate threat?

Open question, help yourselves. . . .


I want to ask you a counter question.

Do you think there should be more of a response than localities doing their job?


The problem I see is that too many are embracing Antifa instead of condemning them.

They are/have become the militant arm of the democrat party.


What's your solution?


There is no solution.

If I'm correct, then we're heading towards a crap-fest of epic proportions.

Antifa started in Germany as a communist group in the early 30's to fight against Nazism.

They haven't changed.

What's ironic is that they desired the same authoritarian position that Nazism did.

When their boot is on your throat, does it matter if it's a Nazi boot or a Communist boot?

They are the antithesis of freedom, so they are the enemy.

Right now, (ironically) I would still fight for them to have their freedom of expression and hope that rational minds could decide themselves that they (Antifa) are authoritarians.

But I doubt that will last.

Hitler started in beer halls.

Antifa is growing in dorm rooms and college classes.

It's only a matter of time before a threshold is reached.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When should Antifa be considered a legitimate threat?

Open question, help yourselves. . . .


I want to ask you a counter question.

Do you think there should be more of a response than localities doing their job?


The problem I see is that too many are embracing Antifa instead of condemning them.

They are/have become the militant arm of the democrat party.


What's your solution?


Trump makes them a terrorist organization, so if anyone on the left (ie Soros) is found funding them, you can go after the financier (aka Soros) as well.. Once people stop funding them, they will break apart.
edit on 27-8-2019 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I like your answer a lot.

The only thing I'd offer, the only difference between now and a few decades ago is we have instant access to the bad news while they stop running the good news as much.

The eighties were grim with political violence, now it isn't as bad as then, but our reactions are worse. People will use instances of fear as justification to take away freedoms.

I've never seen an ANTIFA member. We don't have them here, and they wouldn't be tolerated. I could say the same for where I lived in Texas, New York, and Michigan, two of those being left leaning states. They simply wouldn't put up with the disruption of the community just because of some pissed off kids.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: jhn7537

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When should Antifa be considered a legitimate threat?

Open question, help yourselves. . . .


I want to ask you a counter question.

Do you think there should be more of a response than localities doing their job?


The problem I see is that too many are embracing Antifa instead of condemning them.

They are/have become the militant arm of the democrat party.


What's your solution?


Trump makes them a terrorist organization, so if anyone on the left (ie Soros) is found funding them, you can go after the financier (aka Soros) as well.. Once people stop funding them, they will break apart.


And when someone from the left comes back to the presidency, they'll do a tit for tat. Rinse and repeat.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: scolai

I moved with a job to Austin in ‘02 and it was a different city then. For a long time I thought ABIA was the name of a neighboring city, but found out it is the airport. I laughed and laughed over that one.

Fast forward to now and there was mention on the news of a movement to not refer to the airport Austin-Bergstrom Int’l as ABIA because it’s confusing. That’s how things are here- people running around getting their feelings hurt and demanding unnecessary change.

Indie record stores and thrift shops have been pushed to the edges for boutiques and high-rises most people can’t afford.

Austin has gone from weird (which was fun) to predictable us and them. People crying for the planet and pandering to homeless, crying for open borders and crawling into a luxury bed in a quarter of a million shoe box loft.

It’s pretty lame now lol

edit on 27-8-2019 by raedar because: Typo



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

I am just fed up with that being used as some kind of killer argument because it is so far away from the truth.

Yes, overlooking three decades of development, one can say "good people did nothing", sure.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies




Perhaps the "new definition" of ANTIFA truly applies: ANTI-FirstAmendment 


I've thought this for quite a while now.

The evidence speaks for itself.(No pun intended...)



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: raedar

I'm right there with you. I don't live in one of their strongholds, but I still took a cinder block to the back of skull in the late 90's from antifa. Still gives me trouble to this day.

I just happened to mention Anarcho Capitalism and how it was true Anarchy. I guess my point of view made too much sense. It's weird waking up in hospital when your last thought was a Murray Rothbard quote.


edit on 27-8-2019 by TomLawless because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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I agree...i could have found a better parallel.
I think there is a massive dynamic shift going on with minorities of every sort vying for attention, ajd white peeps going...hang on....we mostly built this place as it is today.

This fits in with the angry white man humanities class at KU that i am fixin to do a follow up thread on. Ironically...it seems to me that ANTIFA are the angry ones.



a reply to: Oleandra88



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: scolai
from my own personal experience austin is nothing like san fransisco

but milage varies you know



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

I recently thought about that. What if we move to fast? I mean, change is good and needed but gradually.

What I observe is that many boundaries are beginning to crumble. We are seriously talking about getting immigrants from war zones the possibility to go there on visit/vacation. I think no one entertained such outlandish thoughts until recently, not even word it out because it is stupid and healthy reasoning to do not.

We became to much of "Gutmenschen", like "goodpersons". People who bend down with bliss. Like, someone running behind the thief of his wallet screaming

"Wait, you stole my wallet but you do not know the 4 digit code yet, you poor person will be so devastated if you find out at the cash vending machine"

Drifted off? Yes absolutely.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When should Antifa be considered a legitimate threat?

Open question, help yourselves. . . .


I want to ask you a counter question.

Do you think there should be more of a response than localities doing their job?


The problem I see is that too many are embracing Antifa instead of condemning them.

They are/have become the militant arm of the democrat party.


Militant arm.
How many have they killed so far?
I understand your dislike of the lot, but let's not get carried away



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 01:55 PM
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I also fail to see the logic of the OP.
A proffesor, who isn't a member of ANTIFA, writes a post encouraging ANTIFA to murder evangelicals on the Facebook. ATS = look how dangerous they are.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 01:56 PM
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In an idyllic world...there would be no borders...or races...or religions. Everyone would work for the goal of advancing civilization. Unfortunatly humans are not wired that way. We are suspicious, angry and possessive.
We allow a politicized few to control us when if left alone peeps would all probably get along.

Its as though we are being strung along by some force with an evil sense of humor.

reply to: Oleandra88



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

If we want to proceed as humanity, we need to stop fighting each others.
I see big things possible with a one world order.

The problem I see with that is the potential for abuse, and it will get abused by the few powerful. The question is, does the benefit out-weight the abuse and for how long?

Mind you I am not for destroying the single cultures. I am not for open borders because I see it does not work peacefully, yet. What we need is free, accessible and unbiased education and by that I mean for everyone.

Until that happens I guess there will be people who believe outlandish claims about some country they are going to travel too, because they think everything there is for free, just because.

I mean, I walk on thin ice here but just look at South Africa. People get killed on their farms by uneducated thugs. Educated folks who can, flee to somewhere else. What is left is a mix of crime and "law of the strong". At some point it starts to cascade into a downfall like domino blocks tipping over each other, starting a chain reaction.

Congress, or however it is called down there, they punch each other and swing microphone stands against each other.

I am not blaming one demographic here, I just observe and try to make sense out of it.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When should Antifa be considered a legitimate threat?

Open question, help yourselves. . . .


I want to ask you a counter question.

Do you think there should be more of a response than localities doing their job?


The problem I see is that too many are embracing Antifa instead of condemning them.

They are/have become the militant arm of the democrat party.


Militant arm.
How many have they killed so far?
I understand your dislike of the lot, but let's not get carried away


Should we wait for someone to die from one of their riots before addressing their violent nature or their alliance with the democrat party?



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
those new red flag laws should take care of that; shouldn't it?



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: XCrycek

Encourage murder - no big deal?

He stated “I affirm that I am ‘antifa”.

Why are you minimizing?

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edit on 27-8-2019 by raedar because: Wrong post reply



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 02:50 PM
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Nope i get ya. Problem is we are hardwired to distrust. And that sort of eutopia we are discussing just couldnt happen. What peeps dont under stand is that power is like the weather...a void invites chaos.




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