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“Scientist” Michael Mann Loses in Court, Mr. Hockey stick Forced to Pay Court Costs

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posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: 727Sky

I have a really stupid question, why do both Israeli and Iranian scientists both say the exact same thing with regards to climate change?

These people hate each other, so they obviously can't be coluding, right?

From what I can see here the court case doesn't prove anybody right or wrong, it's just about access to data, yes?


Climate change is all about one world government and doing away with Nationalism IMO. Only a world government can manage the climate according to them.

The only model that has even come close to reflecting the actual observed temperatures is a Russian model from what I have heard..

Anyone who has not seen the Australian whistle blower speaking on Aenda 21, that video is like conspiracy 102...after learning about the basis of all conspiray, The Secret of the Widows Son, Agenda 21 (which has a new name now though) is next or pretty damn close.




posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 06:28 PM
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I don't suppose anyone has a link to a written decision on the dismissal?

Mann is likely to appeal the dismissal so we may learn more.


edit on 8/27/2019 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

Mann perpetrated a hoax, and because green activists passing as scientists sided with that hoax many in the left believed the claim.

Mann's hockey stick erased the Medieval warm period as well as the Roman Warm Period to make it look like the warming was worse in the 20th century. We have many threads from years ago when this came out showing the evidence of how they erased the Medieval Warm Period and even the Roman Warm period which was much warmer than even the present warm period and were global events. Heck, Mann's Hockey stick also made the LIA (Little Ice Age) less prominent as well in the attempt by Mann and his colleagues to claim that mankind is the one affecting the climate, when this is false.

As per wikipedia here is a version of the Hockey Stick graph.



See how it shows almost a constant line downwards until about the 20th century?

A more correct graph which previous and later studies have shown time and again represents the Medieval Warming more like this compared to temperatures in 1990.



Smoking gun graph reveals NASA’s Hansen’s research showed Medieval Warm Period warmer than today – 1990 UN IPCC report used Hansen’s 1981 study

But leftist scientists and AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) proponents lied and continue to lie to this day by claiming that that graph was not global and that it represents central England Temperatures.. But this is another lie in the multiple lies from leftwing activists. That graph was derived from James Hansen’s 1981 study. Hansen is another of the left-wing/green activists whom has been lying for years.

Since then you have had "green activists" including in this site trying to claim that the Medieval Warm and Roman warm period were not global, or that warm, when previous and later evidence showed the contrary, not only were these global events, but they were warmer than the 20th and even 21st century warming, more so for the Roman warm period which was the warmest of all.

Contrarians/green activists since then posted fudged figures for years trying to sell the "we are all going to die if we don't accept a One World Government that will combat climate change." To this day only the most ignorant of people, such as AOC, keep on proclaiming the same lies as truth.

Here is another graph that shows the medieval warm period and part of the Roman warm period.

That is part of the lie that Mann et al tried to sell to the whole world, and green activists/green scientists were more than willing to go on with the lie just to push the green agenda.

Other ways in which left-wing activists/scientists and AGW proponents have been lying for over a decade is for example showing this type of graph and pretending that all the peaks in that graph were caused by mankind's activities, when that is false.



If you look at the sections I circled below those sections are showing El Niño events which are caused by changes in our sun and CO2 has nothing to do with them.



Throughout the years several of us have posted evidence showing the lies which the left-wing activists/and even left-wing scientists have been using to FORCE governments to embrace the green agenda.

Even Obama's EPA chief Gina McCarthy admitted that "climate policy is about redistributing the world's wealth."

EPA Chief concedes climate rule; it's about 'reinventing a global economy'

UN IPCC Official Admits 'We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy'

The Greatest Scientific Fraud Of All Time -- Part XXIII

There is also the fact that many scientists publish pro-AGW statements in their studies to receive funding and to get their studies published, because there has been a global attempt at disrupting/shutting down studies that either contradict the AGW/Climate Change caused by mankind claim, or outright suppress scientists whom have dared to question the AGW/Climate Change cause by mankind claim.

Thousands and Thousands of Scientists Can't be Behind a Hoax(AGW), Right?

Prominent Scientists Call for Social Engineering by Forcing People to Accept their Environmental Policies.

A Heated Debate: Are Climate Scientists Being Forced to Toe the Line?

The Great Global Warming Blunder: How Mother Nature Fooled the World’s Top Climate Scientists

Many of the tactics used by the pro-AGW/Climate change (is caused by mankind advocates) and scientists has been to scare people and governments with lies to force us all to accept their green global agenda.

Satellite study of Asian mountains show that glaciers are NOT melting - and some are actually gaining new ice

Many of these scientists have been caught lying, fudging temperature data, etc. Even China and Russia complained that western groups/university groups/official climate related government groups have been fudging the temperature data for Russia, and China among many other countries.

When scientists whom disagree or question the AGW/Climate change (being caused by mankind) they have been denied access to raw data, or we have found that raw temperature data has been fudged towards showing an increase temperature when the raw data shows decrease temperatures.

NASA accused of 'Climategate' stalling FOIA response long overdue

In various instances the raw temperature data has been erased.

We also have found that AGW/Climate Change is being caused by mankind scientists have even been found to be actively hiding raw temperature data and we have had several scandals when emails from these scientists were hacked and what they were doing was shown to the world. For example Prof. Jones, one of the main left-wing scientists whom has been an AGW proponent, whom after his emails were made public he even admitted that he contemplated suicide.

In at least one of the emails they mention ways that they can use not to release information, and in one of the emails Jones himself jokes saying...:

....If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think Ill delete the file rather than send to anyone."

www.cbsnews.com...

Scientist 'hid' flaws in key climate shift study

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posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 08:49 PM
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One of the ways these green scientists have been trying to scare people is by lying about "Himalayas glaciers will melt in 2035."


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The claim that Himalayan glaciers are set to disappear by 2035 rests on two 1999 magazine interviews with glaciologist Syed Hasnain, which were then recycled without any further investigation in a 2005 report by the environmental campaign group WWF.

It was this report that Dr Lal and his team cited as their source.
The WWF article also contained a basic error in its arithmetic. A claim that one glacier was retreating at the alarming rate of 134 metres a year should in fact have said 23 metres – the authors had divided the total loss measured over 121 years by 21, not 121.

Last Friday, the WWF website posted a humiliating statement recognising the claim as ‘unsound’, and saying it ‘regrets any confusion caused’.
Dr Lal said: ‘We knew the WWF report with the 2035 date wasgrey literature” [material not published in a peer-reviewed journal]. But it was never picked up by any of the authors in our working group, nor by any of the more than 500 external reviewers, by the governments to which it was sent, or by the final IPCC review editors.’
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www.dailymail.co.uk...

It is important to also point out that many AGW proponents have been lying for years about "the sun's activity hasn't increased since the 1980s" or some other date, when this is false. One of the people whom to this day keeps claiming the same thing is Phage despite actual scientific research which shows the Sun was warmer for at least the past 60 years from 2004 in the 20th century and part of the 21st century than for over 8,000 years.

For example this article from 2004.



October 28, 2004

The activity of the Sun over the last 11,400 years, i.e., back to the end of the last ice age on Earth, has now for the first time been reconstructed quantitatively by an international group of researchers led by Sami K. Solanki from the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research (Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany). The scientists have analyzed the radioactive isotopes in trees that lived thousands of years ago. As the scientists from Germany, Finland, and Switzerland report in the current issue of the science journal "Nature" from October 28, one needs to go back over 8,000 years in order to find a time when the Sun was, on average, as active as in the last 60 years. Based on a statistical study of earlier periods of increased solar activity, the researchers predict that the current level of high solar activity will probably continue only for a few more decades.
...


The Sun is more active now than over the last 8000 years]The Sun is more active now than over the last 8000 years

Other "real" scientists have found that the Sun's activity, more so during times of quiet solar activity, for example had been increasing since at least 1978.



For example.


March 20, 2003 - (date of web publication)

NASA STUDY FINDS INCREASING SOLAR TREND THAT CAN CHANGE CLIMATE

Since the late 1970s, the amount of solar radiation the sun emits, during times of quiet sunspot activity, has increased by nearly .05 percent per decade, according to a NASA funded study.

"This trend is important because, if sustained over many decades, it could cause significant climate change," said Richard Willson, a researcher affiliated with NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Columbia University's Earth Institute, New York. He is the lead author of the study recently published in Geophysical Research Letters.

"Historical records of solar activity indicate that solar radiation has been increasing since the late 19th century. If a trend, comparable to the one found in this study, persisted throughout the 20th century, it would have provided a significant component of the global warming the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports to have occurred over the past 100 years," he said...



Apart from that we know that Earth's magnetic field, as well as our sun's magnetic field, has been weakening.

Here is a graph showing how the polar fields have been weakening despite the fact that the sun was warming more during much of that time.



[url=https://www.livescience.com/46694-magnetic-field-weakens.html]Earth's Magnetic Field Is Weakening 10 Times Faster Now


This weakening of our Sun's and Earth's magnetic field has been allowing more cosmic rays, specially x-rays, from outside the Solar System has been increasing which also affect not only Earth's climate, but the climate of other planets and moons with an atmosphere in our Solar System.

As i wrote in the ATS thread below:

Even back in 2002 we knew Pluto's atmospheric pressure had triple as it was warming the more it moved away from the sun, and this had been happening for 14 years. So Pluto, and maybe even Charon have been warming since 1988, and to this day they are still warming inexplicably.

Pluto and it's moon are too small to be able to produce and maintain this heat internally. Perhaps it is time to look for an outside cause to this warming which seems to be happening in several planets in the solar system, including on Earth.

Scientists find evidence of global warming on Mars

The article above is from May 2016. Mars has also been warming since at least 2001.

Climate Change on Jupiter.
Is shrinking superstorm evidence of climate change on Jupiter?

Climate change on Saturn.

The sudden warming of Saturn at least since 2004 which NASA could not truly explain.

The inexplicable enormous storms that appeared on a normally free storm Saturn but have appeared earlier than ever before.

And now.

Hexagon on Saturn: Nasa scientists ponder colour-changing north pole

Saturn's moon Titan also undergoing warming.
Is Titan Earth's evil twin? Saturn's moon has giant dunes made of METHANE that hint at dramatic global warming

The unexpected warm temperatures of Saturn's moon Enceladus.

Pluto is alive—but where is the heat coming from?

Cosmic Rays, especially X-Rays, The Solar System is Receiving Have been Increasing

Venus and Jupiter May Meddle With Earth’s Orbit and Climate
edit on 27-8-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct excerpts.



posted on Aug, 28 2019 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Thank you for adding content to this thread in a much more in depth manner than I find myself motivated to do...simply because, once I proved to myself such bastions of science NOAA, NASA, IPCC, plus university paid for studies were knowing using and fudging data points and even falsifying temperature records I wrote them and their models off as the worthless lying paid for @#$%^ they have proved to be.

There is an old guard push for globalization which might be nice in some utopian world, but, unfortunately the only way that can ever happen is absolute control of the people and resources of the world. I am all for interconnection of countries based on trade and respect... But ... They can keep their own darn laws in their own lands and we will see which society flourishes in the end or who becomes a major chapter in the book of, "they screwed up"!

I was not going to post this video because of the length however if just one person watches as Tony goes through multiple examples of fiddle data and just out right fake articles it is worth it IMO. youtu.be...






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posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 09:59 PM
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NP.



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