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originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses
were you very open?
You failed to ask your daughter why she likes to were leopard print. You don't know if she would have answered if it made her feel fast or powerful or if she liked to wear it because the boy next door likes to look at her when she wears it.
Is her motives and opinions not important to you?
You didn't bother to tell her your decision that she should not wear it but that duty would fall to her mother. Why? Are you avoiding responsibility?
You failed to tell us what excuse your wife gave for not buying the leopard print? Why?
originally posted by: Onlyyouknow
You do have to realize that no matter how a lady dresses does not invoke an invitation to be violated.
...Basically everything is the woman's fault- no personal responsibility for the man to control his desires.
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: Raggedyman
Hmm - You asked me to answer a simple question. I did so at your request. Still I am not allowed to speak.
Hmmm - so apparently unless I agree and pander to the male opinion - I am wrong whichever way I express myself.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks
A person posed a question and you decided to grab your soapbox and, not a step of hesitation, not a stutter, just moan and bitch
Simple question asking for a simple answer, why not just offer up something nice, simple and precise
You are a control freak, you use moaning and bitching to control, sad really
Doesn’t work on me, I don’t need what you are selling, all you can do is try get in my face to control me, just like your post
Happy to break down your post and show you the control freak aspect of it if you like
Otherwise, go save a hippy or something
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses
OK - now I seem to have your attentions so yes we can bring this to a civil level. Its hard to get through sometimes.
First of all, I am not 20 something and just out of some woman's study.
I have lived the days of true female suppression. The days when I had to have a third daughter because my husband refused me permission to have my tubes tied. It was a hormone thing in the days when birth control was just developed. I could not make the decision but I sure as hell paid for and raised her alone.
You "pondered" asking your daughter but you didn't!. Its a gross disrespect on your part that your daughter is not consulted on matters of personal choice./
How is your decision different from those who force woman to wear tents. Really think about it and answer the question
YOU made a decision and issued an instruction to your wife that she was required to obey.
She was the one who had to come up with some bull# excuse. Why did you not take responsibity. Woman have been excusing men for centuries. You make a dicision about your own daughter. Why can't you explain your decision yourself
You keep talking about how rude I am??
Really, I gave birth to and paid for and raised a daughter just because some men decided that my fertility belonged to a man.
Come on Dad - give her a break and let her imagine that she is as fast as a leopard.
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses
But you are standing in for a culture that restricts choices for only one sex and leaves them to pay the price.
originally posted by: DictionaryOfExcuses
My young daughter loves all things feline, including leopard print clothes.
I am perplexed. In my mind, leopard print is associated with sluttiness.
I think it's because of Carrie, or maybe Emily. Laura?
it's something women use in an attempt to look sexy and young girls should not be encouraged to wear it, ever.
If I had my way, children's clothes would only come in monochrome. No glitter, no trite phrases, no cartoon characters.
I told my wife my thoughts. She seemed a bit puzzled
Will anyone on ATS back me up?
Is leopard print for young girls ever OK?
Were my perceptions warped by the wrong people at the wrong time?
Am I being unfair to all women who wear leopard print?