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Trump is going to lose the election

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posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: SailorJerry




Not because I dont think the votes are there, not because I WANT us to, but because I think it has been planned.

If Trump does lose the Election it will be because of the actions and antics of Trump , it will likely be blamed on " the deep state" by his faithful followers but in reality it will be the American public telling Don ...You're Fired !


The majority of Americans in a new poll disapproves of President Trump’s overall performance, despite greater support for the president’s handling of the economy than other issues in the survey.

Sixty-two percent of Americans said they disapprove of the job Trump is doing, while just 36 percent approve, according to the Associated Press–NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll released Thursday.
thehill.com...




posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake
no thanks
imo we are no longer interested in "leading" the world
I don't think the world wants our leadership frankly
we do not want socialism like the rest of you lot
and we do want to fix our nation
imo we could export the un to any of the euros and be quite happy

no problem with a connected world, but we dont need to change our nation to do so



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: SailorJerry

As long as he is gone, who cares how he loses?

Then maybe they can make America palatable again.

I predict a nation that eventually comes to her senses.

Here’s a novel idea, instead of you piss’n n moan’n about it, why don’t you find a candidate worth a f to run against him, instead of the grab bag of losers that are currently running. The best you could do last round was run one of the most deceptive and corrupt politicians in history and this round you run a bunch of NWO muppets and Biden, all which are more than willing to flush the country down the crapper for a vote. I think the country has been very sensible given the options.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

Thanks, but I can't take credit for it.

Documents show Russia planning to sow racial discord in US by radicalizing African Americans.



ASPEN, Colo. (AP) — FBI Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday that Russia continues to use fake news, propaganda and covert operations to “spin up” Americans on both sides of hot-button issues to sow discord in the United States.
AP

But he still thinks China is the biggest threat (as do I)


He said he thinks China, from a counterintelligence perspective, represents the broadest and most significant threat America faces. China wants to replace the United States as the most powerful economic engine in the world and is infiltrating American businesses to get an edge.

“We have economic espionage investigations in all 50 states” that can be traced back to China, Wray said. “It covers everything from corn seeds in Iowa to wind turbines in Massachusetts and everything in between.



Russia blame s the US for the decay of affairs in Ukraine years back (which they might be right on), they feel their hand was forced in Crimea to protect their Black Sea fleet outpost.

Either way, as I said this has been a long tit for tat. No one is innocent... We need to be aware of their agenda so we don't divide like they want.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: mtnshredder

I can find as many candidates as you like but since I'm not in the USA, nor hail from the nation, it won't really matter much.

Anyhoo we have mad Boris and Brexit to contend with over here, pretty much our own version of Trump and trade wars.

Guess it depend on what one calls sensible, but silly walls, overt racism, xenophobia against your closest neighbor, those i would place in the nonsensical column myself.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Change is inevitable shooterbrody.

Nations that do not change stagnate and die.

We are a social animal, socialism is part of the parcel, just like all the political and economic theories and ideology of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be regulated.

Your nation certainly wants consumer socialism, quite frankly without such it would be on its arse.

End of the day capitalism/communism/monarchy are all just tools of the trade to the bankers and financial institutions.

If not America who leads the way, then who?

Because it's apt to be someone, and i don't see your population being willing to follow just yet, do you?
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posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: Nickn3
If you are correct, the next election will be the opening shots of the next civil war.


I think you are 100% correct and that's what smarter people have been saying all along. Trump is an implant with a job to do and the end result will be civil unrest and collapse, before a New Order is ushered in.

Crazy how people have been saying this for 2 years and Trump support is only now beginning to pick up on it.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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The only people who are complaining about Trump? The media and those who are pissed they cannot beat him in a general election.

2016 was not a vote 'against' Hillary. It was a vote for policies. There were and still are a lot of HRC supporters. To me, the candidate who will run has not been announced yet and a main reason I feel that is no Barack Endorsement. As much as some try to say Trump is not presidential, it is unheard of for a past president to so vehemently discuss and resist the new sitting president. It does NOT happen.

There is no president in history that has had to endure what Trump has from the media as well as his own party. He is still there. Since his first day in office, if you turn on the news or look at social media it is a absolutely crazy.

I did not hate Obama, or Bush or even Clinton. The ones I was old enough to vote for. I did not like a lot of their policy. I do not think any of them did anything to bring America together. All it did was rack up debt. Amazing how past presidents want to take kudos for jobs but not debt they created while in office and passed on. That is why when budgets are passed and some laws created they are for a certain amount of years to start after they are out of office. It sucks.

However, what has changed over the last year, to me, is acceptance. There are a lot more accepting of him now then there was a year ago. Even in some media circles, Social Media and Tech will continue to hammer away because they want someone in the WH they can control. That is the bottom line. Someone to control.

The voter will speak again in 2020 and Trump will be victorious. The only way I feel he will not be is if he is removed from office and sadly I think that those who resist are actively plotting this and I do not mean by impeachment.

Ask the person in the street and you will see a much different view of the State of the US.

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posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
you sound ridiculous

your us vs them mentality is basically garbage I can't even waste my time typing out a proper response


LOL as you waste time typing out a response.......

Seriously the lefts mentality has become a parody of itself.....

And the worst part is, they take even that seriously..... 🤣🤣🤣



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Duderino

Considering the rest of the junk that has spewed forth from the Mans puss, is it any wonder really it has taken 2 years?

They are all implants really, some being more of a menace to reality than others all the same.

End of the day they are slaves to the bankers, lobbyists, and financial institutions that put them in the position of illusory power.

Money talks, the rest of us simply do the walk, democracy is a prison where we cannot see the bars.

And the best type of slaves are the ones that don't know they are such, that's 99% of the human race, unfortunately.

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posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: toysforadults
you sound ridiculous

your us vs them mentality is basically garbage I can't even waste my time typing out a proper response


LOL as you waste time typing out a response.......

Seriously the lefts mentality has become a parody of itself.....

And the worst part is, they take even that seriously..... 🤣🤣🤣


I remember Toysforadults earlier threads and comments.

I don't think they represent the left though, they had a thread a while back self describing them-self as a classic liberal, which is more in line with a libertarian.

I think your comment kind of proved the "us vs them" environment. If you say anything critical of the current admin, you're labeled part of the left or a liberal.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs


The only people who are complaining about Trump? The media and those who are pissed they cannot beat him in a general election. 2016 was not a vote 'against' Hillary.

It was a vote for policies. T


I don't know about that. I live in an area with a lot of moderates. Many and my friends voted for Trump and were always skeptical of him, but we voted for him because he wasn't Hillary, it was a protest vote. And if the libertarians had a candidate that wasn't a joke, I would have likely voted for them.

My problem with Trump isn't about things the media really touches on.

My problem is he did tax cuts while the budgets still reach record highs, I'm all for tax cuts, but we have to work on the deficit, something he promised to do.

He promised to dial back on needless wars, we've been more at a stalemate, and his current circle for foreign policy seems to be hawkish (though I'll admit he hasn't heeded their wishes yet).

There are a few minor housekeeping measures that bug me too, but those are the main points. We can't fix this country while deepening our debt and stretching our military thin in vein while wasting money and lives.

I doubt the left will run someone better though unfortunately. But I still think it's important to call things how we see them.

I haven't seen any greatness out of him yet.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 01:34 PM
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Because it's apt to be someone, and i don't see your population being willing to follow just yet, do you?

oh you are right about that
we wont be following anyone else

your change for change sake only is bs
we will be happy to fix our nation and no more

no thanks again on the socialism
see how well the Venezuelans are doing with that crap
less regulations are working great here
lol
we can take care of us and make our own decisions just fine
tell your socialism story to the chinese



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Change for change sake? LoL

That's not me that's the world we live in.

And the pace is getting faster.

It's inevitable you see, then again your nation is hardly old enough to understand the concept.

You will either learn to adapt and help serve more than yourselves or you will stagnate and pass the torch.

Truth is its not even your generations decision, or mine for that matter.

Brave new world Shooterbrody, and that's just how it rolls.

You see lines on Maps but the bankers and corporations don't appreciate nor hold by such.

Change is not just on the wind, it's on the tip of the tongue, for better or worse, well that remains to be seen.
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posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: mtnshredder



Guess it depend on what one calls sensible, but silly walls, overt racism, xenophobia against your closest neighbor, those i would place in the nonsensical column myself.


You think protecting the sovereignty of our country and the well being of our citizens doesn’t make sense? US citizens want our borders protected and we want people wanting to be citizens to be vetted and to do it legally, does that not make sense to you?

This isn’t about racism or xenophobia. Trump and the majority of people in this country don’t dislike Hispanics, we dislike things like diseases, abuse of our welfare, medical and educational systems, illegals that are killing our citizens, gangs and the drugs that go with them. Those are the people we don’t want here. What part of any of that doesn’t make sense to you?

It’s your prerogative if you want to believe all the lies the MSM feeds you across the pond about silly walls, racism and xenophobia but most of what you’re being told is distorted and far from the truth of what’s really going on and how Americans feel.

Trump has been the first President in a long while to actually stand up for the citizens of this country and he’s done his best about implementing policies he said would.. We’re tired of our concerns and complaints being ignored by past administrations and sick of illegals being prioritized above our citizens, veterans and homeless which is exactly what the Democratic Party is doing and wants to continue doing. Love him or hate him, this is why Trump is president and I hope will be re-elected in 2020.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 02:43 PM
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I don't see anyone invading America anytime soon and no one is challenging your supreme power or authority militarily, so your sovereignty seems just fine to me.

It's my prerogative to see the Man for what he is.

It's not hard when he keeps on talking extensive bullcrap.

Good luck in 2020, but not with Trump.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake
So what do you call millions of people pouring into your country illegally? Welcome guest?




posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: mtnshredder

I imagine the 50 million-plus indigenous persons already on the Americas thought the same when we arrived.

Were our ancestors "Welcome guests"?

Never significantly retard the movement of people.

If they want to come, they will come.

And they have as much right to exist as anyone else.
edit on 22-8-2019 by andy06shake because: Terrible spelling. LOL



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: mtnshredder

I imagine the 50 plus million indigenous persons already on the Americas thought the same when we arrived.

Were our ancestors "Welcome guests"?

Never significantly retard the movement of people.

If they want to come, they will come.

And they have as much right to exist as anyone else.

Not on my dime they don’t.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 02:59 PM
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Is your head on that dime, do you own a bank?

It's not your dime mate, and that's the thing.

And the people who do own the power behind the Dime are the same ones that own the federal reserve banking system.

Rather a few of such are hardly native to your nation, or loyal to any other for that matter, other than the banking houses that spawned the bastards.



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