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Trump is going to lose the election

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posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:05 AM
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Marking to come back and read in 2020 !!!! KAG!!!




posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein
yeah
no path to 270 and all
we have seen that before



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: Wayfarer


This is exactly what Mueller confirms they did and continue to do (as per my linked article). If you choose to believe they did so entirely for reasons different than affecting the election that's your prerogative, but I'd sure like to hear your rationalization for why.


I said it in the bottom of my response to you. They played both sides so that we would have the argument either way the election turned out. It was Russian assets who leaked information (whether valid or not) to Steele which in turn evolved into an investigation.

At the same time they had a group of online trolls hit multiple fronts, from playing both sides of protest planning online to promoting Trump (there are more instances, this is just an example).

Extracting the voter information probably helped them on all fronts and more effectively target regions of discontent.

All of this as I said was to sow discord and doubt internally and pit people against each other.

My guess would be this was payback for the US effectively tanking the Russian economy and currency post Crimea. They weren't postured to hit us economically, so they setup a low resource plan to use us against ourselves.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake


Personally, i think Trumps a senile old racist mate.

Most other professions we would have put the Man out to pasture quite some time ago.


He used to be a Democrat who received awards from distinguished minority spokespeople.

Personally I think he is a showman who knows how to say what the group he's in at the moment wants to hear.

Wrongfully convicted vs no conviction. Both are just as bad to me.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: MiddleInsite

If, given your current opponents, you really believe that..

He will win. Because of YOU. Ahhhahaha..

god you twits haven't got a clue. Worked out how to use the washing machine yet, or is the washing machine faery (read: mom) still doing it for you...



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Wow nice meaty response



So am I understanding you correctly that you think the Russians did all of this for no strategic reason, but rather just to screw with us out of spite?



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut

What will it be then, if he wins?

Just more of the same? I am interested in your tales. Please send them to me via post.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Wow nice meaty response



So am I understanding you correctly that you think the Russians did all of this for no strategic reason, but rather just to screw with us out of spite?


Thank you, and yes, spite (and slightly because we've been helping opposition of Putin).... Also to distract us from being more robust in trade agreements with entities they're courting as well. I'm sure they have similar operations towards other competing countries... Just as we have with them.

This tit for tat has been going on since before WWII though, it's not something that genuinely alarms me, I just try to stay mindful of it so I can weigh it in with my decision making process and put things in perspective.

I still think we're similar countries with culture and societies more alike than not. I think we would be allies should China decide to start flexing.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: SailorJerry

I think you are right.

2nd line.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry
a reply to: carsforkids




I take their word when they say Trump can not be re elected "by any means necessary"

Do you? Did you believe them last time they said it too?



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein


I'm just going to leave this here. I'm sure someone will find it useful.


I personally think casino odds are better indicators. They have skin in the game.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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I think you might be right too, Jerry.

The "left" has so much more to lose than simply an election.

They need to maintain the illusion that "left" echo chambers have fostered, which is that their religion is a majority. Most dont get their information through anything other than approved channels, so when they encounter diversity of thought, its jarring.

They have also undoubtedly learned from last election, where I suspect the result was simply because they didnt cheat enough.

Then, we have the large corporations like Google, who are rather openly willing to sway elections. It wouldn't be as effective if the folks in this religion interacted with more than a handful of media sites and searches.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them do everything they can to cause a recession either. They are already prepping the flock to not only accept it, but see it as a good thing specifically to "get Trump."

With all of that, there is more to it than simply gaining power. While I dont think any political party is above doing anything to sway votes.. The coordination and organization in the past decade or so, in all western nations, points to something much, much more than just growing the ranks of the dems.

Everything is on the line, far beyond the presidency, and we can fully expect to see everything from Google intentionally manipulating voters (again) to outright fraud in the voting booth.
edit on 22-8-2019 by Serdgiam because: Hamsters of doom



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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Tdump didn't make america great again, worsening eventually.

Look forward to 2020 election



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 11:26 AM
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It's hard to care about the presidential election when you got cult-of-personality trump worshippers on one side and leftist savages on the other.

Both idiots on both sides have been slamming their war drums to the point it drowns out anyone who is sane in the MSM.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Wow nice meaty response



So am I understanding you correctly that you think the Russians did all of this for no strategic reason, but rather just to screw with us out of spite?


Seems to be a reasonable theory actually



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Trump definitely has the best odds. The presidential election is a popularity contest. Trump is good at that.

Just call some mexicans rapists and say theyll pay for a multi-billion-dollar wall.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 11:33 AM
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The takeover is in full swing... Nothing to do with politics but control. The elites have incrementaly moved this country to where its ripe for their end game. Its in full view and most just wish to stick their heads in the ground.
The future is bleak. reply to: southbeach



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

America leads the world in certain respects shooterbrody just as the UK did so in previous centuries, the same as Spain, Rome and many others.

We live on the planet, and its somewhat larger than just the USA.

Like i said shooterbrody its all just swings and roundabouts, but it's your nations turn at the wheel.

It's not something to be shunned or avoided, but to be embraced.

Cant fix America without fixing the rest of the world simply down to the fact that we all exist within a global community with the info structure in place to transport goods and people all over the globe within a matter of hours.

Its a big place, but we are all connected to one degree or another.



edit on 22-8-2019 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Quantumgamer1776
The weaponized autistic users of 4chan will summon kek once again


I dont know anything about that or what that means,lm sure many do, but that means squat to most of middle america and the moderates


Middle America and moderates mean squat to the Elder Gods and sigil magic.



posted on Aug, 22 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

A show Man that knows all the wrong words i suppose.

He used to be a lot of things and yes he certainly plays to an audience.

Said audience all the same, well computer says "No".
edit on 22-8-2019 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)



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