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JUST IN: Trump defunds Planned Parenthood

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posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

They should be able to, since we've been told its a minor portion of their income anyway..




posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Pharmacies do not function as a lobbying body, Planned Parenthood does. Also, pharmacies do not set their prices related to unassociated drug costs, PP does. IfMedicaid pays $50 for someone's blood pressure meds, the pharmacy isn't using that to subsidize morning after pill scripts.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

...Bradley Manning



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Once again Trump panders to his ignorant base instead of bashing decisions off of facts.

Can't wait for the number of new AIDS cases to explode just like what happened in Indiana when Pence defunded PP.


Why wait, knowingly infecting someone is no longer a felony in California..



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

This isn't something that is argued by these facilities. What is covered by Medicaid is determined by CMS, as well as some oversight from Congress.

This is not a case by case basis type of thing. It is determined at the beginning of the fiscal year.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

Why shouldn't it be? My wife, when she was on it several years ago, paid for her own BC out of her own pocket even though she was insured. It was $50 bucks a month. If you can't afford $50 a month, you certainly can't afford to get pregnant.


I see it as low as 15 per month today, but once again a state level program seems like the best bet.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Looks like trump just re energized an industry among the clothes hanger and lysol crowd.

I doubt if trump wants to have taxpayers pay for birthcontrol either.


Or women could stop sleeping with broke losers that can't afford a $3 pack of condoms from the corner store...



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Xcalibur254

...Bradley Manning


No kidding.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018
Birth Control is now even cheaper. Most forms of the Pill cost between 50 cents to about $1 a day.

With Medicaid, low income people have free access to birth Control and it's usually covered by most health insurances.

People make it sound as if PP is the sole provider of such services.




edit on 19-8-2019 by pavil because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

You really think giant companies like CVS and Walgreens don't lobby?

As to your other point, pharmacies wouldn't be able to exist without money from Medicaid and Medicare. Pharmacies also provide access to abortifacients. If the issue that many people have with PP is that they provide abortions and receive federal funding, despite the two things being separate, why should the same "morals" not apply to pharmacies?



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: LSU2018
Birth Control is now even cheaper. Most forms of the Pill cost between 50 cents to about $1 a day.

With Medicaid, low income people have free access to birth Control and it's usually covered by most health insurances.

People make it sound as if PP is the sole provider of such services.





They also make it sound like you can't get other types of healthcare for women from any other clinic/office but PP.

Clearly its only about the abortions.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: pavil

People with Medicaid would not be able to receive it through PP. What defunding PP actually means is that they no longer receive Medicaid and Medicare reimbursement. So people that rely on PP for birth control, not to mention numerous other services, which is a common occurrence in rural areas, are now being denied access to basic healthcare because Trump wants to pander to his base. The same base that will be most affected by this move.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You really think giant companies like CVS and Walgreens don't lobby?

As to your other point, pharmacies wouldn't be able to exist without money from Medicaid and Medicare. Pharmacies also provide access to abortifacients. If the issue that many people have with PP is that they provide abortions and receive federal funding, despite the two things being separate, why should the same "morals" not apply to pharmacies?


Do pharmacies sell baby parts?



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

As has been stated numerous times now, in many rural areas PP is the only option. Do you really think that people that are barely making ends meet, and are possibly working multiple jobs, are really going to be able to drive an hour away when their previous option was just down the street?



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Does PP sell a key ingredient in the production of meth?

See? I can ask questions not pertinent to the actual topic as well.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Wardaddy454

As has been stated numerous times now, in many rural areas PP is the only option. Do you really think that people that are barely making ends meet, and are possibly working multiple jobs, are really going to be able to drive an hour away when their previous option was just down the street?



Don't you mean urban areas? Because that's where I see the majority of PP facilities being set up.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254

What do you gain by denying basic healthcare to people that rely on PP?


How many overlapping services to people need?

There are Obamacare subsidies, there is Medicaid, there
are low cost county clinics, all which are taxpayer funded.

How many times in different ways do taxpayer need to fund
birth control services?



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

The MIC have plenty of their own money to continue operations.
They spent tax payer money on lobbying and pushing their political agenda. It's fair that they have been defunded.

The oil industry have plenty of their own money to continue operations.
They spent tax payer money on lobbying and pushing their political agenda. It's fair that they have been defunded.

Do you also agree with these two statements?


I'd only agree if they were also murdering children.
It's PP's decision not to take funding by the way. Their abortion business is so important to them that they are foregoing funding in order to continue their campaign to promote and encourage abortion in their facilities. So don't pretend the govt. is in any way denying them funding for women's health services.
edit on 19/8/2019 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Does PP sell a key ingredient in the production of meth?

See? I can ask questions not pertinent to the actual topic as well.


Well, Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 is a thing.

Is there a baby parts act?

It is pertinent, since PP performs abortions. To my knowledge pharmacies arent producing meth straight up.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Xcalibur254

What do you gain by denying basic healthcare to people that rely on PP?


How many overlapping services to people need?

There are Obamacare subsidies, there is Medicaid, there
are low cost county clinics, all which are taxpayer funded.

How many times in different ways do taxpayer need to fund
birth control services?



Asking the real question.



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