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posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

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posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: Quantumgamer1776

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Except this move is actually promoting abortion. Now people that might not have become pregnant because they had access to the resources offered by PP have a higher chance of becoming pregnant.

The abortion, that probably wouldn't have been necessary before, will still have the same out of pocket cost.


He didn’t close all the planned parenthood’s, he just said that they are no longer getting tax money to do it, if pp is just in it to help the poor get laid without having kids then they can still do that without my money.

In fact if all you leftist are so convinced that pp needs to exist then you can voluntarily donate to them with YOUR money and not force me to give them mine.


May I ask exactly how much of YOUR money has went to PP. You know, what percentage of your tax dollars have went to PP?

Just curious since you are so worried about YOUR MONEY.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: TheLead

This is a valid point.

Why is it all about women bodies?

Why don't clinics give free vasectomy?

Ok so while I was writing this I wondered if vasectomies could be reviersed.

Bing gave back these two top answers....




Vasectomies are meant to be permanent. Even if you get your vasectomy reversed, your fertility may never come back. Vasectomy reversal surgery is complicated and expensive, and doesn’t always work. So you should only get a vasectomy if you’re totally certain you don’t want to get someone pregnant for the rest of your life

www.plannedparenthood.org...




Almost all vasectomies can be reversed. In a reversal, the cut ends of the vas deferens are reattached. Or, one end of the vas deferens is connected to the part of the testicle where mature sperm are stored

www.medicinenet.com...



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: HalWesten

Yes. And by defunding PP, Medicare and Medicaid will no longer accepted there.


Simply not true.

PP will still continue to receive 500 Million in annual
Medicaid reimbursements from the Feds.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: HalWesten

Yes. And by defunding PP, Medicare and Medicaid will no longer accepted there.


Simply not true.

PP will still continue to receive 500 Million in annual
Medicaid reimbursements from the Feds.


Remember, they believe their "truth" above facts.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

www.plannedparenthood.org...

Planned Parenthood has many payment options available for patients to receive high quality services regardless of income level, including no cost or low cost. We accept most insurance plans, including Medicaid and Medicare. No one will be denied access to services due to inability to pay.
PP website seems to debunk this and as this is for NY


If you need assistance covering the cost of your abortion, visit the National Network of Abortion Funds for more information. Assistance may be available to you and is not limited to New York State residents.
there is still the national network of abortion funds group that does this on its own through donations so yeah.......

www.plannedparenthood.org...

Planned Parenthood of the Heartland believes that everyone has the right to excellent reproductive and sexual health care. We accept a variety of payment methods and offer funding programs to assist patients. Insurance: Most health insurance plans, including Medicaid and Medicare, cover PPHeartland services. See what plans we accept. Private Pay: We accept cash, check, and credit cards (Visa, Mastercard, and Discover). No-cost or reduced-cost: Certain programs may be able to reduce or cover the cost of your care. Please call us at 877.811.7526 to find out if you qualify. Sliding discount fees Sliding discount fees are based on income level and family size. Patient requesting discounted fees must bring documentation of income within the past 30 day to their appointment. Examples of required income documentation are listed below: pay stubs, etc. unemployment child support Social Security death benefits retirement income self-employment
the heartland pp website

www.nbcnews.com... older scotus ruling (or in this case lack of ruling and letting the lower courts rulings stand) seems to imply that yes they do take medicade for reproductive health reasons just no abortions which is where the other clincs seem to step in

Planned Parenthood offers Medicaid patients vaccines, wellness examinations, screening for breast and cervical cancer, contraception services and pregnancy testing. But abortion is not offered, because federal funds cannot pay for them except in cases of rape, incest or life endangerment. The Kansas affiliate said it provides "essential medical care for hundreds of low-income Kansans each year."
and even is allowed in cases of rape or incest .

to go off on a tangent treat planned parenthood like the NRA its the hot button group that gets the left riled up like PP gets the right riled up but there are other groups like the GOA for example for gun rights that are not the nra nor do they get the political flack just like other clinics tend to get less flack then the planned parenthood organization gets most of the flack for the abortion issue

www.plannedparenthoodaction.org...

Medicaid is also the largest payer of reproductive health care coverage, paying for 75 percent of all public funds spent on family planning services. Finally, for nearly half of women giving birth, Medicaid is the source of coverage for essential care, including prenatal and delivery care.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Pesky facts. Well I'll stop here before I get in
real trouble. Wouldn't catch me in that place
even if it was the last resort.

I'm fully aware of the Eugenics history, it is a
vile organization and I hope to see it fail soon.




posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: projectvxn

So then, do any OB/GYNs deserve tax payer money?


How about the ones not committing genocide.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

The ignorance in this thread is stunning! What's even more stunning and shocking is how many ATS members are willing to bend over and give up 1st Amendment rights!

Good for Planned Parenthood! They are the true patriots.

All those women who marched in the streets with pink pussy hats will vote this time around. This will hurt Trump in 2020, when women realize what they've lost, not just from Planned Parenthood, but from every family doctor and local clinic that takes Medicare or Medicaid.

A woman takes her 14 year old daughter to the doctor, and confirms their worst fears, she's pregnant. Congratulations! That's all she wrote folks! You're on your own...they sell wire coat hangers and Drano at Walmart!


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posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:34 PM
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1st Amendment rights!
a reply to: Sookiechacha

What?




You're on your own...they sell wire coat hangers and Drano at Walmart!


Is killing babies the only solution you can think of?



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: HalWesten

Yes. And by defunding PP, Medicare and Medicaid will no longer accepted there.


So they can go to any other provider, which I already posted are far more accessible than PP. It's not a tough thing to understand.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

There are a lot of things that my tax money goes to that I don't agree with.
Things that go against my very soul.

If we are all agreed that ALL the things we don't like tax money going to is on the chopping block then that would be fair.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Sublimecraft

The ignorance in this thread is stunning! What's even more stunning and shocking is how many ATS members are willing to bend over and give up 1st Amendment rights!

Good for Planned Parenthood! They are the true patriots.

All those women who marched in the streets with pink pussy hats will vote this time around. This will hurt Trump in 2020, when women realize what they've lost, not just from Planned Parenthood, but from every family doctor and local clinic that takes Medicare or Medicaid.

A woman takes her 14 year old daughter to the doctor, and confirms their worst fears, she's pregnant. Congratulations! That's all she wrote folks! You're on your own...they sell wire coat hangers and Drano at Walmart!



nice doom porn you are peddling. This is not the 1950's sookie. There are other alternatives for that procedure, and it is still not illegal. But, you keep peddling the fear to those on the left that buy into it and are willing to accept it as your "truth" regardless of actual facts that contradict your statement.


Sad really.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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This is not the 1950's sookie.


You wouldn't know it, with all the draconian and unconstitutional abortion bans and TRAP laws being enacted around the Red States in this country. There are many states where women have to drive hundreds of miles to access safe abortions, only to have to wait 24-78 hours because of "informed consent" laws, that assume women don't have the slightest idea what they're aborting.

Funny that...it was a Republican majority Supreme Court that passed Roe V Wade, based on the sanctity between a woman and her doctor, and their rights to privacy.

Trump, making America great again by bringing women back to the 1950s!



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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So they can go to any other provider, which I already posted are far more accessible than PP. It's not a tough thing to understand.


All those "other providers" are bound by the same order that Planned Parenthood is refusing to obey.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Krakatoa




This is not the 1950's sookie.


You wouldn't know it, with all the draconian and unconstitutional abortion bans and TRAP laws being enacted around the Red States in this country. There are many states where women have to drive hundreds of miles to access safe abortions, only to have to wait 24-78 hours because of "informed consent" laws, that assume women don't have the slightest idea what they're aborting.

Funny that...it was a Republican majority Supreme Court that passed Roe V Wade, based on the sanctity between a woman and her doctor, and their rights to privacy.

Trump, making America great again by bringing women back to the 1950s!





Is abortion illegal?

Simple question.

Simple answer.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: HalWesten




So they can go to any other provider, which I already posted are far more accessible than PP. It's not a tough thing to understand.


All those "other providers" are bound by the same order that Planned Parenthood is refusing to obey.



Only if they accept federal funding. If they don't it's a moot point for them, right?

Facts over your truths.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Ok, I'll admit that I saw you yelling at us but didn't listen.

Now I hear you.

Your saying that only a little bit of the money was going to be taken by trump?

That it wasn't even enough to mater to pp.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

For a 14 year old girl? Yes, abortion should be an option.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: RalagaNarHallas




Planned Parenthood has many payment options available for patients to receive high quality services regardless of income level, including no cost or low cost. We accept most insurance plans, including Medicaid and Medicare. No one will be denied access to services due to inability to pay.


My tax money should never go to something so monstrous!



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