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Trump’s threat to label Antifa terrorist group triggers row in Germany

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posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 05:08 PM
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The fires have been lit in the land madness, supreme chaos and just flipping crazies.

A word from the President below all this stuff--->


The hashtag #IchbinAntifa began trending on Twitter in Germany on Sunday after US President Donald Trump said he was considering labeling the group a terrorist organization.

"If Antifa is finally classified as a terrorist organization in this country as well, then the currently popular hashtag 'I am Antifa' offers up a very rich pool of investigative leads in the fight against terrorism," AfD parliamentarian Jürgen Braun wrote on Twitter.

The Anti-Defamation League, a leading Jewish group in the United States focused on hate crimes, describes Antifa as "a loose collection of groups, networks and individuals who believe in active, aggressive opposition to far right-wing movements."

www.reddit.com...

indianexpress.com...


On Saturday, the US president said that the new classification “would make it easier for police to do their jobs,” and dubbed the anti-fascist group “gutless radical left wack jobs.”


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As Portland, Oregon, braced for dueling protests between right-wing extremists and the anti-fascists who have vowed to confront them on Saturday, President Donald Trump threw gasoline on the fire, threatening that the far-left demonstrators could be labeled terrorists.

“Major consideration is being given to naming ANTIFA an ‘ORGANIZATION OF TERROR,’” he tweeted, adding that the city “is being watched very closely” and telling Mayor Ted Wheeler to “properly do his job.”




The video showing Quillette reporter being Andy Ngo savagely attacked by Antifa at a demonstration in Portland, Oregon, last weekend has rocked the nation. The footage of masked thugs beating him with blunt objects and throwing “milkshakes” allegedly filled with quick-drying cement is shocking to many.

But I’m not surprised by this horrific behavior—I was once behind the mask.



The seeds of this violence have been planted and are encouraged by leftist professors in the classroom. Over the last few years, there has been a growing trend of extremist professors advocating for violence and intimidation to force leftist ideology onto society. Examples can be found from coast-to-coast: Mark Bray, a visiting scholar at Dartmouth College, is a staunch defendant of Antifa's use of violence and even wrote “Anti-Fa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook,” in which he claims that ‘violence is a "legitimate response" to groups with incendiary views.’


Gabriel Nadales: I’m a former Antifa member and enough is enough Antifa must be stopped


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posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: TGunner

If we go by the standard definition of terrorist/terrorist organization as that who/which uses violence and/or intimidation tactics against civilians in order to coerce a government to a certain action/policy or push a political/ideological agenda then they are certainly a terror organization even if their brand of terror is largely low level (although it is escalating).

A little disappointed it hasn't already been given the label.
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posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: TGunner

Antifa are nothing but bigots



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posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: TGunner

Good job Mr President. I hope he goes through with it, anybody not blind can clearly see that antifa is a terrorist group.



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 05:54 PM
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If you make Antifa a terrorist group, then you are making an ideology a terrorist group.

Antifa is an ideology.

Mostly communist, but we never did make communism a terrorist group.



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
a reply to: TGunner

The irony is the [snipped] are using the same tactics of intimidation that was used by the the real fascist wing of the national socialism party of the 1930's.


it's not irony at all. it's the same tactics used by Antifa in Germany that the Nazi brownshirts were fighting against. and since both used pretty much the same tactics, of course it would appear they are using Nazi tactics. but that is just the appearance since only one of the two groups is really well known. the truth is Antifa is and has been using Antifa tactics from the 1920's and 1930's.
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posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: TGunner

Lets say they get labeled 'domestic terrorists' & lets take this to its natural conclusion:

As an American citizen, what is your responsibility to the Constitution if you come across a domestic terrorist engaging in terrorism? - are you required to enact a citizens arrest? or can you use extreme prejudice in taking him/her/them out? or are you required to only report activities and await law enforcement to arrive?

Imagine a scenario where Trump looses the next election through the use of google manipulation and media subterfuge / propaganda and a democrat muppet gets installed. Then imagine that same government labeling all resistance to the new government as domestic terrorists - using the same law that Trump enacted to label Antifa as domestic terrorists.

Who gets to decide what constitutes a 'domestic terrorist'? because if they are determined by skin colour or country of origin and NOT determined by religious or political alignment(s) then this is a dog & pony show designed to strip freedoms to ensure safety.

Allow Antifa to bike lock and batton folks into submission so laws can be passed - sounds like a movement designed to be the strong-arm of the globalists infiltrators like Soros and other scum.

"be careful what you wish for"



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:02 PM
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Why would they even care. Donald Trump is President of America, not Chancellor of Germany. He has exactly 0 power to declare Antifa a terror group in Germany.

Not to mention they are the textbook definition of a terrorist organisation. You know a peaceful protest does not include masked men throwing molotov cocktails at the police. Germany should've declared them a terror group a long time ago, the European version is far, far worse than the American copycats.

But this is fun. I'm sure a whole host of new twitter hashtag movements will start soon.

#IchBinIRA
#'IchBinISIL
#IchBinFSA
#IchBinKhmerRouge

The possibilities are endless.



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:05 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TGunner
If you make Antifa a terrorist group, then you are making an ideology a terrorist group.
Antifa is an ideology.
Mostly communist, but we never did make communism a terrorist group.


no Antifa is and always has been a terrorist group, not an ideology. the ideology of Antifa is communism. Antifa was the communist version of the Nazi brownshirts. their terrorist arm of the German communists.



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

that's my issue with labeling them a terrorist organization, inevitably left wing nutters will get back in control and immediately do it to anyone who leans right.


unfortunately we will have to wait for the inevitable blood letting on a major scale before we can do so and at least set a bar of evidence that must be reached before doing so.



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: generik

We haven’t made communism or socialism a terrorist group and those ideologies have killed millions



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: TGunner

Lets say they get labeled 'domestic terrorists' & lets take this to its natural conclusion:

As an American citizen, what is your responsibility to the Constitution if you come across a domestic terrorist engaging in terrorism? - are you required to enact a citizens arrest? or can you use extreme prejudice in taking him/her/them out? or are you required to only report activities and await law enforcement to arrive?

Imagine a scenario where Trump looses the next election through the use of google manipulation and media subterfuge / propaganda and a democrat muppet gets installed. Then imagine that same government labeling all resistance to the new government as domestic terrorists - using the same law that Trump enacted to label Antifa as domestic terrorists.

Who gets to decide what constitutes a 'domestic terrorist'? because if they are determined by skin colour or country of origin and NOT determined by religious or political alignment(s) then this is a dog & pony show designed to strip freedoms to ensure safety.

Allow Antifa to bike lock and batton folks into submission so laws can be passed - sounds like a movement designed to be the strong-arm of the globalists infiltrators like Soros and other scum.

"be careful what you wish for"



1776 will commence again?




posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:24 PM
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More authoritarian logic on how to suppress oppositional authoritarianism and round and round we go like ponies on a carousel.


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posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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Gee, didn't see that coming




twitter.com...



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

It's likely Trump is pulling a few chains to gauge the reaction to these groups, and he's getting it. Seeing them flip their lids over it is entertaining enough.

So how would you deal with these people from Antifa? What do you think should be done about it. They've been labelled as terrorists by people who used to be them. They're a dangerous group who have infiltrated our Universities, and are brainwashing our kids.


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posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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Interesting when you call them terrorists they respond by vigorously demonstrating that they ARE terrorists.



posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Original Antifa, well their origins stem from east Germany. And were much, much worse then what we see today in their rag tag group of people.

Also, you can't make a political ideology terrorist, otherwise you land yourself into deep areas totalitarian waters.
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posted on Aug, 17 2019 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: DBCowboy

Original Antifa, well their origins stem from east Germany. And were much, much worse then what we see today in their rag tag group of people.

Also, you can't make a political ideology terrorist, otherwise you land yourself into deep areas totalitarian waters.


So a "get out of jail free card" for terrorists is to just claim some political ideology? Awesome!



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