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The Trump Epstein Quote, where trump admits he is in on it?!?!?!

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posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Dfairlite

If the Russian oligarchs couldn't get their money out until after the USSR fell how would Trump have gotten it before 1991?

Therefore, yes it does make sense that he got his money until around 1991 - 92, and for the rest of the decade until he finally sorted out his business and cut deals with american banks to repay his debts. He never got loans from American banks, he just stopped them from ruining his life. That's why he filed for bankruptcy to protect himself until he got his feet firmly planted. From 91 - 99 almost all his casino's, resorts, etc were all gone bankrupt. Until 2000 when he cut a deal with the two German banks.

His own son even said in 2008:


“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.”


Furthermore, Deutsche bank has been consistantly under the radar for doing EXACTLY what I said Trump was and still is probably doing with private investors.

Deustche banks is a sketchy filthy corrupt bank with ties to east Germany and even the Nazi party.
Because you're assuming he got his money from them, which he didn't.

Terrible trick question, but the rest of your garbage post has zero merit.




posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

Which half? Was it divided we fall because that's written down somewhere. Robert was the former Grand Wizard of the KKK Alinski's playbook is in full effect proven first by the ridiculous "Russia" probe now followed with trying to pin Eps and Trump together when Bill and Hill were frequent guests. No assumptions here tho



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123


Construction of the building began in 1999. The construction was financed by two German lenders, Deutsche Bank and Bayerische Hypo- und Vereinsbank


He didn't do business with those two banks? Really? Who are known to have laundered Russian money... and his son even admitted Russians have a lot of Trumps assets. Did you read anything I wrote?
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posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

What difference does the bank make?

The money and digital journals all look the same 😎



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The point is if you follow the money Trump has his hands in dirty piles of money that lead to Russian billionaires. They saved his brand and company. And you can see why so many journalists and people were calling Russian collusion.



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: [post=24564592]thedigirati[/pos


What reason could there be for President Trump to not be around Epstein after his conviction? anyone?



How many people acknowledge they knew a convicted felon? Not exactly a good conversation starter. So me proof that they were buds rather than Country Club Elbow rubbers?



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: strongfp



If the Russian oligarchs couldn't get their money out until after the USSR fell how would Trump have gotten it before 1991?


I never contended that. I contend that If they got their money out in 1991 and gave it to trump to launder, why was he putting casino's into bankruptcy over the following couple of years?



He never got loans from American banks, he just stopped them from ruining his life.


This is simply false, even in your own conspiracy this is false. Just curious, if he never got loans from them, how could they ruin his life?



That's why he filed for bankruptcy to protect himself until he got his feet firmly planted. From 91 - 99 almost all his casino's, resorts, etc were all gone bankrupt.


That's a sneaky way of saying a small portion of his holdings were bankrupt. Yes, his resorts and casino's were mostly in all in atlantic city and they were bankrupt but he still had other ventures that were successful and kept trump himself in a good position. In fact, trump even leveraged mar-a-lago and his 5th avenue hotel in some of his bankruptcy negotiations. He owned tons of condos and apartment units in manhattan that were all doing just fine. He even owned an airline which he sold to pay down some of his debt.



Furthermore, Deutsche bank has been consistantly under the radar for doing EXACTLY what I said Trump was and still is probably doing with private investors.


There are so many logical fallacies here. First, just because they were caught up in some money laundering scheme doesn't mean they were doing that with all of their clients. Second, you've still yet to prove that deutsch bank has any sizable position investing in trump. Third, deutsch bank did nothing. They weren't even aware of this scheme, they were just a tool being used. Fourth, this was from 2010 to 2014, a far cry from 1990-2000.



Deustche banks is a sketchy filthy corrupt bank with ties to east Germany and even the Nazi party.


*clutches pearls*
OH MY! You mean a german bank had ties to the german government from the 30's!? and they even had ties to the german government up through the late 1980's!? say it ain't so!



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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It seems to me far more likely that trump knew exactly what he was up to and didn’t cut ties until EVERYBODY else started finding out...


Then wouldn't D!G be discussing quotes and interviews that weren't almost two and three 3 decades old respectively?


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“In 2002, Trump even gave a remarkable on-the-record comment about Epstein to a New York magazine journalist, calling him “terrific” and adding that he “likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”



Actually, this sort of implies the opposite - going on record and talking about women on the younger side is not the act of someone trying to cover up pedophile tendencies.

This was around the time the he started dating the 26 year younger Melanie, who, comparatively, very much was on the younger side. Odds are that Melania was his reference point for women on the younger side and that Trump wasn't causally referencing statutory rape, child pornography and human traffciing on the record.



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

Actually I see none of that, and years of investigations have said it never happened. So try again.



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

If you go to a bank and ask for a few million dollars to build an apartment. Your apartment goes under, you file for bankruptcy, are they going to give you MORE money or make a deal for you to eventually pay back the debt?

The theory is based around Trump falling off his horse and attempting to get back on it, which he did. But where did he get all his money from initially to get back on track?
At the end of the day, Deustche bank ended up loaning him over 2 Billion dollars. Even when he was still struggling they kept cutting him checks. The article that got me going on this is here it really makes you think how could he jump back with simply just his barely surviving real estate investments in NY alone?



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Then you aren't looking or are turning your head because of a simple report from a guy who had his hands tied the whole time. The FBI can only reach so far into the Kremlin.



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: DupontDeux

Your second point illustrates the chasm in american politics today. Your explanation is logical and fits the fact pattern perfectly. However, it means trump wasn't a child rapist so it can't be right. The lack of evidence that you're wrong, is in itself evidence! lol. It's sad.



posted on Aug, 18 2019 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: strongfp



If you go to a bank and ask for a few million dollars to build an apartment. Your apartment goes under, you file for bankruptcy, are they going to give you MORE money or make a deal for you to eventually pay back the debt?


The former and the latter. Specifically this is what happened. Trump's casino biz was in trouble. It wasn't generating enough revenue to even cover interest payments. Due to this fact, the value of the properties was way down so the bank had two options (and an unlimited number of variabilities on those options). They could either:
A) take the properties from trump and eat the billions in losses now by selling off the properties at a vastly reduced market value.
OR
B) loan trump some more money (65 million to be exact) so he could weather the downturn in atlantic city and increase the property value for them.

They chose option B with some contingencies (they decided they'd be better off splitting the profits or losses with trump rather than letting him eat all of the profits or sticking themselves with all of the losses).



At the end of the day, Deustche bank ended up loaning him over 2 Billion dollars.


While that sounds like a lot, it's not for trump. Consider, he was down 5 billion on just atlantic city casinos in the 90's. He also guaranteed (personally) a billion of the money out his personal accounts in 1990.



Even when he was still struggling they kept cutting him checks.


Yes, have you heard the phrase: if you owe the bank 10k the bank owns you. If you owe the bank 1 million, you own the bank? It's the same principle. Once you've sunk billions into an investment, spending a few million to keep it from becoming a loss is money well spent.
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posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 08:02 AM
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The onus of proof lays with you, not others to prove you wrong. It's on you to prove you right, although I've seen other posters state if it's opinion, it's not a lie!!! And you definitely have an opinion...

a reply to: strongfp


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posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:29 PM
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Let me know when you find Trumps black book with Epstein's number in it along with phone call recordings of them actually talking. Anyone can have a book full of names and numbers, doesn't mean they are associated with them or even have talked to them.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 05:34 PM
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So. Why did the DNC not use this during the 2016 election? If they have such good evidence, based on what you say, it was more proof than the Russian collusion BS.

Can you explain that?



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: pavil


I've just rolled my eyes so far back in my head I saw my brain.
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Well now we KNOW you’re lying...



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: JustJohnny

The World was a Different Place 17 YEARS AGO . Mr. Trump was not a U.S. President at that time . Epstein had a lot of People Fooled back then to , So the POINT of this Thread IS > ?



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
So. Why did the DNC not use this during the 2016 election? If they have such good evidence, based on what you say, it was more proof than the Russian collusion BS.

Can you explain that?


The GOP who compiled the report got cold feet when it transpired trump would be the nominee and, the Democrats did what's happened before when Gore and Obama got reports, they handed it to the feds. The news media got onto the water sports bit with added racism but all the things about him conspiring with Russia came through when Mueller said he was guilty, remember? A few weeks back,
Barr said I couldn't impeach a sitting president but he is in no way innocent.



posted on Aug, 19 2019 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: pavil


You also have to realise that we are talking about men that are basically pensioners. I would think however they want to portray themselves, or the Media portrays them, might suit their ego but the fact remains, they aint what they used to be, and never will be again. With the present round of medical must haves used by the general population, and the rich, the pills alone on the one hand not withstanding their ages would have slowed any ardour they once had down to a snails place.



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