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Trump blames mass shootings on mentally ill, calls for more mental institutions

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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: TGunner

That's not going to work. You'll get a lot of people being locked up, but you won't prevent more than maybe 1 shooting if any at all in 100 years.
It takes a sociopath to kill that many at once right? Well guess what - there's no reliable test to measure someone's empathy.

Is that freedom? To lock people up because they enjoy conspiracies, or got out of the box ideas?
What's the definition of "mentally ill" in this case? And how do you want to find the people? Will it be enough when one person says "he is scary"?
Internet history? Isn't that making everybody guilty until proven innocent? Which would be impossible.
Can't you see how very dangerous it is?

Let me tell you a story: There was a woman having a schizophrenic episode in a small town in Italy, because the hospital wasn't equipped to treat her they called an ambulance to have her transported to Genua.
On arrival it got really bad the woman was resisting, got violent and irrational, they had to put her under medication. Everybody was completely convinced that lady was just really badly mentally ill.

Later it turned out they got the wrong person.

Point is "mentally ill" is no precise definition of anything at all. Everybody, absolutely everybody can be made appear crazy if you know what you're doing, or if you meet them under the wrong circumstances.
This is very dangerous.




posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:20 PM
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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
Point is "mentally ill" is no precise definition of anything at all. Everybody, absolutely everybody can be made appear crazy if you know what you're doing, or if you meet them under the wrong circumstances.

Knowing myself and having lived in a family with mentally unstable people, I can confirm that day-to-day, practically everybody could be seen as "mentally ill." In fact, if somebody doesn't act a little crazy once in a while, that's a sure sign to me that they probably have a real screw loose.

I'm no Scientologist, but I kind of have to agree with them that psychiatry is probably about as accurate and effective as voodoo. Because voodoo can actually work and help people just about as much. The only thing psychiatry has going for it these days is anti-depressants, which is a total crapshoot as to whether it helps you or whether it makes you want to kill yourself or others.

EDIT: Although anybody with a big, aggressive tattoo on their face should be immediately locked up. That's a sure sign of craziness.
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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:29 PM
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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Hypntick


We send our children off to war to shoot people we don't even know for the bankers all the time.



I dont know where your from but the USA ended the draft years ago. So if they go to war it is what they volunteer for.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: Blue Shift

Haha, "crime against aesthetics" is not really...practical. It would get very expensive very fast. I hate tattoos if you're no Māori you don't need one.

Add: and Trump is the last person who should go down that road, it would take me five minutes to gather at least 20 psychologists and psychiatrist who'd declare him crazy...
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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
I dont know where your from but the USA ended the draft years ago. So if they go to war it is what they volunteer for.

Organize crime doesn't have a draft, either, but people still join up. Armies have been created and wars have been fought forever because the people in power -- whether they're kings, emperors, or capitalist industrialists -- want to protect their interests. So they send their subjects or employees out to kill or be killed. And these days because they're partially hidden as they control the puppet strings, they can actually play both sides of the field at the same time. They're ready to make money regardless who wins.

They just call it "patriotism," or label you a coward if you don't want to get killed to protect some rich guy's stock portfolio.
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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: Blue Shift

It's a volunteer military.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero
I do agree that we have too many people that should be supervised at some level up to include committed as an involuntary patient. The main reasons we did away with the vast majority of mental institutions is money and what we perceived at the time back in the 70s/80s better drugs.

Today we realize that many of these drugs actually make matters worst for some while maybe helping others cope. Anti-depression drugs can lead to suicides and aggressive actions like mass shootings...who would of thought...

We have homeless on the streets that are basically seriously basket cases that wonder around eating out of trashcans as about the best thing they do. These people need help and will not look for it on their own...


Precisely correct. We are paying the price for going to the so called community based mental health system in the 1980s. Sad really, so many lives ruined.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
a reply to: Blue Shift
It's a volunteer military.

Of course it is. But what is its ultimate goal?
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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018


You definitely can't trust them to clean your house, or pool, or many other things. Maybe that poster can pay them to do something since he's so concerned.


Actually the pooper scooper is for their own crap... The good news is they have poop maps now so you can pick where you want to live by the lesser density of human feces. Twin Peaks as example looks like a mighty fine place to live.




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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Blue Shift

Haha, "crime against aesthetics" is not really...practical. It would get very expensive very fast. I hate tattoos if you're no Māori you don't need one.

I was just thinking of folks like these:
TATTOO FACE MURDERERS

or these:
www.google.com... 27&bih=749
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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

Adulterer, closet gay, cross dresser?


This is starting to sound more and more like Obama...


I think we can leave off the list pregnant black female...

So what we are saying is Trump is pretty much atypical human.
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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 04:42 PM
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Need to institutionalize the leftist, commie sympathizing socialist loving anti American fools.

To start with, in my opinion, and IDGAF who disagrees. Because if they don't love America they can leave, no one is forcing them to stay. But no one is going to force us to change. Ever.

Because this, is America, and we don't bend a knee to any f'n one, especially communism lovers.

Don't like my words, too f'n bad.

America is a free country with freedom of speech and expression. That's a double edged sword...

I have just as much a right to say what's on my mind, as any American does. And that, is why America is the best Country. We are free. For real.

We don't have to agree, or even like each other.

However, so long as my actions don't violate your person physically, there's no harm no foul.
And visa versa.

Foolish commie lovers here in the USofA can also spout their idiotic bs freely. No one has to listen though.

As for individuals who are diagnosed with a social disfunction and are a danger to themselves and or others. That is one reason why mental institutions were created. Not everyone is mentally stable, and may even be divergent...

We can see it when those unstable people gather together wearing vagina hats, or parading down the road crying and foaming at the mouth in gaggles of codependent variations of the Stockholm syndrome.

Just wait and hear me out. Look back in history 15 20 years ago, and this was never heard of. Yeah there was protests, but not like the mindless zombies we see since the obuma admin.

Prove me wrong, show me parades of pussy hat wearing, he's not my president spouting, don't know which bathroom to use gender confused ignorant sheeple.

Please, and thank you.





posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: ADVISOR
Please, and thank you.

So, are you okay with the anti-American communist liberal sheeple being able to say what they want, or do you want to lock them up? I'm confused.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: Blue Shift


Yup.




posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

Adulterer, closet gay, cross dresser?


This is starting to sound more and more like Obama...


I think we can leave off the list pregnant black female...

So what we are saying is Trump is pretty much atypical human.


It was a sarcastic response to the prior poster that they left off some accusation against trump that has no basis.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 05:18 PM
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One thing I've learned in 36 years of never ending severe mental illness is when people call for more attention to be called to it, the word "Help" is only for a few, and it usually comes with a cute little attention to me me me campaign attached to it. So you'll forgive me if the darling of the moment cries of omg MENTAL ILLNESS fall on deaf ears. As a child, I was a damn guinea pig and over the years I've done a better job at dealing, adapting and surviving than any doctor or expert could have done. So again forgive me if I seem jaded but I know as the news cycles roll, so does the caring for this topic.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero



Trump's a racist, pedophile, sex offender, crazy, homophobic, xenophobic, narcissist, sociopath, psychopath, Russian agent, law breaker, tax evader, liar... did I miss any?
Outside of that he has been a pretty decent President...


Yes,
You missed out that Trump is very humble....he said so himself...........

However, that would make him quite unstable himself really,



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 06:33 PM
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originally posted by: smurfy
You missed out that Trump is very humble....he said so himself...........

However, that would make him quite unstable himself really,

I would say that he has delusions of grandeur, but he is the President of one of the most powerful and influential countries in history, so...




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