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Epstein: Distinguishing Facts from Anonymous Leaks and Rumors

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posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: KKLOCO




Additionally, reporting about the woman going after millions from his estate, means nothing to this case


Maybe not but it goes to showing that the MSM is not ignoring the story. Which was kind of the point of my entire post.


The MSM is "reporting" according to instructions and guidelines 😎🥥




posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

It may come today.

And it will be perfectly written with all the rigging necessary to establish an "Official" story to be automatically believed by most people 😎🥥 bet there's even some "inconclusive" statements too 😎🥥


I won't bet against you!

"Inconclusive" and "undetermined." Yup.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea


OK, lets say this dude facilitated pre-pubescent teens to lots of big dogs that don't want their perversion known about. As a favor, they let Epstein out of jail through some devious operations and fake his death. Well it aint cuz they are holding him back for a trial later on. IF they sprung him, it was as a thanks, but now you are banished to a far away island.
Dude was not sprung to testify against anyone. If anything, he was sprung to prevent a deadman switch from going off.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: MrNeo
Why would they keep him alive?
Especially if they have all his info.
Seems like a massive investment for exactly what?

Exactly. Do we need someone like him in the CIA?


Blackmail of foreign agents and "competitors"😎



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme


Your forgot the sarcastic emoji. Or did you? Surely you forgot the sarcastic emoji.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

The MSM is "reporting" according to instructions and guidelines 😎🥥


If there is any one thing we can be certain of, this is it.

The CNN's and MSNBC's will not be working to "uncover",
they will follow the directives issued by Gannet News,
or any other handler. This is how the MSM accomplishes
its Gatekeeping.

What is imperative at this point, if one is wanting to
find the truth of the matter is to look for consistencies.

Inconsistencies in the story will point to a cover up.




posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

Ahhhh... thanks for clarifying. Gotcha.

I disagree -- but I understand your point now!



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme

Exactly. Do we need someone like him in the CIA?


This is Silly.

This is all far too sloppy to have been CIA, from start to finish.
Also too messy for Mossad.

Now, FBI seems to have made many a slip up as of late,
I chalk that up to trying to protect and foster Democratic
candidates like Hillary and Obama. This tells me that the
former leadership in the FBI was leaning towards an agenda
of Socialism, and they wanted to take the country in that
direction. Hence, mixing politics with law enforcement,
not an expedient way to sustain any consistent governing.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea



BBC is all over the British connection with Prince Andrew. This could get really good!!!!



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:10 PM
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I heard he was allowed to spend several hours a day with a beautiful young woman.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24



They got pics, flight logs, and all sorts out about that girl landing in Luton airport in the UK.... snap it is getting serious. The Met here closed th case back in the day...peeps are now asking why?



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I really do genuinely wish anyone taking up that flag the best, and most certainly you.

I suppose Im just not convinced we can actually determine the facts. Sure, we can take things that are presented reasonably as "true," but its not particularly difficult to present non-factual things reasonably and without bias. Some might say its even more effective to do so, especially if they very reasonably line up with seemingly unrelated sources and stories and are presented in front of a backdrop of wild claims with clear bias and propagandized language.

In this case, taking note of the fact that if he was indeed murdered, or forced to take his own life, we are dealing with a conspiracy that has far, far reaching implications and connections.

I dont think this was done so "brazenly" because of desperation, I think it was done this way to serve as a warning with the perpe"traitors" knowing full well they could not only get away with it, but also obfuscate the publics perception into oblivion.

I think this event points to the (current) culmination of a very long string of conspiracies dating back quite some time. Figuring it out may be critically important beyond just this specific incident, or even the "Epstein saga."

I just dont know that it can be done, with modern methods of propaganda in play. They are so much more advanced than what many realize. At its extreme, what can we really determine if literally everything we receive about incidents like this is fake?

Not only would we get conditioned to accept false data if its presented in a way that appeases us (theres a flavor for everyone), we are inspired to feel we figured something out or accomplished something even if we never really did.

For as cynical as I clearly am about it, I do genuinely appreciate folks like you doing this sort of thing and genuinely hope you can pin things down.
I just dont know that its possible regardless of brilliance or discernment.

In a properly run shell game scam, the little ball isnt under any of the shells. And, with impressively advanced modern propaganda, its akin to the ball actually remaining on the table, but us being convinced its under one of the other shells or in the hand because where the ball actually is, is veiled in unbelievable perceptions.
edit on 16-8-2019 by Serdgiam because: Its a good analogy damnit! Dont you judge me!



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: Boadicea

BBC is all over the British connection with Prince Andrew. This could get really good!!!!


I noticed that too! Also his renewed relationship with Fergie.

The civil docs released spoke of "another" prince. I strongly suspect that other prince is Harry. Mostly because Harry was also known for his wild ways, the timing is right in that Harry came of age during this time, and it just seems like Randy Andy would be the type to invite his young and cool nephew along...

I've also read some rumors about Harry's new wife Meghan Markle that would tie her in as well.

Hmmmmmmmm......



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: lakenheath24

They got pics, flight logs, and all sorts out about that girl landing in Luton airport in the UK.... snap it is getting serious. The Met here closed th case back in the day...peeps are now asking why?


Do tell???

This isn't ringing any bells for me...



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: Serdgiam


I suppose Im just not convinced we can actually determine the facts.


You're right. We cannot determine the facts.

What we can do is pay very close attention to what is being represented as "confirmed" by official sources when it is only a leak or rumor attributed to official sources. We can't even know if the source is actually official or not.

Likewise, I suppose we should also pay very close attention to those purportedly "official" sources, and who is using them.



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme

Exactly. Do we need someone like him in the CIA?


Maybe he's been transferred to Room 39 😎🚬



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 01:47 PM
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It was just on the BBC news. Had a large segment devoted to it. Had a pic of that 17 yr old, price andrew and epsteins british fixer girl...what her name . Said the Met dropped the case mysteriouslly .

Eta


torontosun.com...


a reply to: Boadicea


edit on 16-8-2019 by lakenheath24 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 02:04 PM
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I think they led that big ex cop back in to finish the job, and he did. He will be paroled early and have a million bucks waiting for him. Hillary has him covered. Lets see how long before he gets out or maybe dies



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

What case? Its not illegal in the UK to have sex with a 17/18 yr old
The woman herself can't remember how old she was as she states in her deposition. I cannot find any claim that she had sex with Prince Andrew just that he "assaulted" her by touching her breast with a puppet and there is a rumour that he sucked her toes....for which it should be added she got paid £10,000 which she blew on either a new car or drugs drink & partying depending on who you believe. Does that sound like a sex slave?
Rumours of Fergie & Andrew getting back together have been rife for a year or two its nothing new. Again your link provides no facts just anonymous sources regurgitating the same crap as all the other tabloids with no foundation
This thread has turned into the very thing the OP was railing against. Rumour hearsay and gossip



posted on Aug, 16 2019 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
It was just on the BBC news. Had a large segment devoted to it. Had a pic of that 17 yr old, price andrew and epsteins british fixer girl...what her name . Said the Met dropped the case mysteriouslly .

Eta torontosun.com...
a reply to: Boadicea


Ahhh... okay. I did see that story. I thought you meant a new girl making claims.

As for Fergie, I think they've been living together for a while now. I know there have been rumors of a reconciliation since their daughter's wedding.

I really think the attention by the press is really just to sell papers. I don't think Andrew is especially worried about anything. I haven't seen one media source even suggest any particular charges that could be laid at Andrew's feet. If I understand British law correctly, 17-year-old girls have the right of consent. But maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

And if the U.S. had any intention (or hope) of charging him, they would have done it already.




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