Trump is Possibly Looking to Buy Greenland: Report

Here is something I find interesting. Supposedly The USA/ Trump is considering making an offer for Greenland.. It would not be the first offer to the Dutch as Harry Truman made an offer back in the 40s after another offer was made in 1867. Denmark said no to both offers.

What is new is China is also interested.. Nothing big or earth shattering as of yet but still I think there could be a bidding war in the future ?

The Wall Street Journal, citing two unnamed advisers, reported late Thursday that Trump has, “with varying degrees of seriousness, repeatedly expressed interest” in buying the island in the North Atlantic.

According to the article, the idea first came to Trump last spring when an associate suggested during a dinner that he should consider buying Greenland given that Denmark was having financial trouble over the island.

From what I can see/understand the USA is mostly broke so what and how would they pay for such a deal is over my head but I do like the idea from a strategic standpoint ?

China has also been eyeing Greenland’s close proximity to the Arctic shipping lanes and its rich mineral resources, including uranium and rare earths.

According to a January 2018 editorial by state-run media Xinhua, China currently considers Greenland a strategic part of its Arctic ambition and its “Polar Silk Road”—an extension of its One Belt, One Road initiative.

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A "Green New Deal" that might actually work for benefits !!! 😎

Greenland has the highest suicide rate in the world. High rates of alcoholism, no jobs. We tried to buy it a couple of times but they would rather be poor sickly socialists I guess fishing and freezing their butts off.

Well the ice in Greenland is melting at a record breaking rate trillions of pounds of ice melted in a single day. Perhaps Trump knows something we don't know even though he doesn't believe in global warming. Maybe he's looking for first dibs on prime ocean front property that will be nice and toasty in the near future to pass on to baron. Things that make you go hmmmmm.......

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a reply to: 727Sky

It would not be the first offer to the Dutch as

As a Dane, i find that offensive!

But seriously, I dont think any danes or greenlanders want this. Also, Greenland is the danish ticket to all the resources on the north pole, if this was to ever happen, it would only be due to corrupt goverments, it would be folish to sell it for any money the USA offers, cause it would NEVER be enough, you guys aint that rich...

Also, we "sold" the Virgin Islands to you 100 years ago. We didnt really have a choise, and we didnt really got any real payment for them. Why would we do that again?

Greenland has the highest suicide rate in the world. High rates of alcoholism, no jobs. We tried to buy it a couple of times but they would rather be poor sickly socialists I guess fishing and freezing their butts off.

Oh yeah, that is right. The USA is well known for helping its poor people and for taking care of their alcoholics.... Not really.. lol How stupid do you thing people are? are you really gonna try selling this as some kind of charity offer? Get real...

ETA: You know what, give EVERY greenlander 1million dollars each (50,000 millions, and it is yours) to show that you really care about the people living there, and i wont have any problems with you buying it. Denmark dont need any money, and we as a nation has NOT been nice to them. My goverment did some real shady stuff back in the days. Help the greenlanders, and it is yours. Just give me a couple of days to persuade my goverment


ETA2: The children taken from home for a social experiment

Denmark had resolved to improve living conditions in its Arctic colony. Many people still made a living by hunting seal, only a small percentage spoke Danish, and tuberculosis was widespread. The best way to modernise the island was to create a new type of Greenlander, the Danish authorities decided, so they sent out telegrams to priests and headteachers asking them to identify intelligent children between the ages of six and 10. The plan - formed with the help of the charity Save the Children Denmark - was to send them to foster families in Denmark so they could be re-educated as "little Danes".

And that's when she got another surprise. While Thiesen had been away, another charity, the Danish Red Cross, had built a children's home in Nuuk. It said that after their stay in affluent Danish homes, the youngsters shouldn't live with their own families in "worse conditions".

"It was in the days when Greenland was a Danish colony. And the colonial masters - they were 'masters' in the worst sense of the word - they controlled everything and you didn't contradict a Dane. You just didn't even question what they said."

Denmark abducted the kids from the greenlanders, and sent them to Denmark as a part of an social experiment. We took them from their families, and when they finally returned home to Greenland, they werent allowed to live and stay with their families. All those alcoholics you talk about, we helped create them. I know lots of greenlanders living here in Denmark, and almost all of them are alcoholics and have social issues. It is a sad sad tale about the danish/greenland relationship....

Would not this be part of the competition for oil? I understand that oil-fields in the Arctic are being looked at. Having a larger Arctic coastline would mean staking a larger claim. In that case, cost would be no object, because it would make a good investment.

a reply to: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

This was eye opening. Thanks

Everyone should try to find some maps pre 1700's and look at Greenland and Iceland (and if there is another island just south of Iceland that is 2-3x the size of Iceland). Look at how Greenland is drawn, it's geography & topography. Notice the vast mountain ranges accurately mapped out and even towns (or cities, IDK) in the center of the "island" (it's too big to be an island IMO, I think it more a mini continent).

What is odd is almost all the maps I've seen do not show ANY snow on the island, in fact it is shown to be forrested and grassland with areas marked with cows and sheep in many areas in the mountains. IDK if those were meant to be native/indigenous animals or places where they were being farmed/raised.

This is one of the things that makes me question the 1-3 mile thick ice sheet in places on Greenland we've been told about. I know we supposedly went through a period called the little ice age, and I think that is when Greenland turned from a hospitable place of "plenty" to the snow covered mass it is shown as today.

If you think about how the gulf stream flows, Greenland (at least the southern 1/3) should actually be near as warm as the UK YEAR ROUND! With both the warm air coming from the south and the warm ocean currents flowing from the US atlantic coast as well. I've never understood how the southern part of the island is supposedly so cold. Now Iceland, that's a little different, b/c all the gulf stream has already flowed to the N pole and is returning south with the cold air.

Also, there is a lot of debate about how maps are drawn and Greenland is one of the most misrepresented land masses in the world. While it looks to be about 3-3.5x the size of Alaska it's only about 10% larger. It's position also isn't accurate either on most all maps, it's much closer to the UK (and so is Iceland) - that whole northern section needs to be "scrunched"/pinched in. It's because they are trying to represent a round/globe on a flat map, which distorts things on the very far poles.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

When i was a kid, i remember people telling me that the reason Iceland is called Iceland, was so people would think the place was just full of Ice, but it is really mostly green. And like so with Greenland, which is full of ice, we made it sound more attractive to foreign nations to go for that land instead. Something like that.
Dont know if its true or just some good story people made up because they really should switch names, to fit more with reality..

The mini iceage was just before the 1700´s, so maybe you on to something. I dont trust anything coming from officials anymore, so wouldnt be suprised if there was something to it. But iam not convinced

Also, take a look at Africa on old maps. It is tiny compared to what size it really is, just like Greenland is so much bigger than reality.
When i was a kid i used to thing Greenland was the biggest country in the world, based on those maps

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Also, there is a lot of debate about how maps are drawn and Greenland is one of the most misrepresented land masses in the world.

not really.

While it looks to be about 3-3.5x the size of Alaska it's only about 10% larger.

Alaska has a land area of 1,477,953 sq km. Greenland has 2,166,086 sq km of land. quite a bit more than 10%, maybe 45% larger? i am not working it out lol
so in short the maps and scales are pretty spot on.

a reply to: 727Sky

Truman offered $140 Million back in 1946. With inflation, at todays rates that equates to over $1.9 trillion - and Denmark turned it down. If he is serious therefore, it means an offer in excess of $2 Trillion.

Personally, i don't think the USA or China could afford it at those prices......

originally posted by: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

When i was a kid, i remember people telling me that the reason Iceland is called Iceland, was so people would think the place was just full of Ice, but it is really mostly green. And like so with Greenland, which is full of ice, we made it sound more attractive to foreign nations to go for that land instead. Something like that.
Dont know if its true or just some good story people made up because they really should switch names, to fit more with reality..

The mini iceage was just before the 1700´s, so maybe you on to something. I dont trust anything coming from officials anymore, so wouldnt be suprised if there was something to it. But iam not convinced

Also, take a look at Africa on old maps. It is tiny compared to what size it really is, just like Greenland is so much bigger than reality.
When i was a kid i used to thing Greenland was the biggest country in the world, based on those maps

Ari Frodi who wrote Íslendingabók between 1122 - 1133 claimed Irish Monks discovered Iceland first (St Brendans voyages) and it is postulated he also "discovered" Greenland on his way to North America. So is it not called Greenland because of all the little Leprechauns he took there?

Its been all over the news here in Denmark today.. but very short news, because everyone said simple no, and some thought it was a out of place Aprils fool joke, there was a real April fool here in Denmark back in 2008 that Greenland was sold to USA.

And even if we did not need it and USA could buy it.. it would still be a no in fear of someone would damage the delicate wild nature of Greenland in pursue of money or a forward operation base of war.

a reply to: 727Sky

The government of Greenland has tweeted this morning that someone needs to tell trump that Greenland is not for sale.

Why does this moron think he can just buy a country? Where does this crap come from?

Who put this bug up is ass?

america could afford it if they didnt spend one years military budget!

but the Danes would be mad to sell it !

He's trying to get the moron Dims stirred up and it will be full blown stupid by noon today.

HAPPY FRIDAY anyway.

Going to impeach for a buying Greenland joke keep finding new lows

a reply to: DISRAELI

Oil in the Arctic? Really? From the ice perhaps?
There is no land under the arctic circle. Just ice.

The land is at the south pole ... the continent of Antarctica.

a reply to: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

I remember this from when I was a kid learning about the northern european countries like the Netherlands or Sweden or Finland and such that Iceland was green and Greenland was ice.

a reply to: Sillyolme
I would have been reading this in printed articles, so I can't give an online source.
If memory serves, it would have to be offshore drilling, as in the Gulf of Mexico and the North Sea, greatly complicated by the climate.
The prediction was that, as a result, territorial control of the Arctic sea-bed would become a hot international issue, like control of the South China Sea for the same reason.


OK, here is Wiki on Petroleum Exploration in the Arctic
See? I haven't made it up. Sarcasm about there being no land under the ice was quite unnecessary.

originally posted by: mikell
He's trying to get the moron Dims stirred up and it will be full blown stupid by noon today.

HAPPY FRIDAY anyway.

Going to impeach for a buying Greenland joke keep finding new lows

Good point. It got one dim all ruffled up above.