Consequences for Omar and Tlaib

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Sillyolme

Yeah, Trump tweeted. So what? Do you really think Donald Trump holds such power over a sovereign country that he dictates their policy by a single tweet? How super-omnipotent do you think Donald Trump is?

My God is not a fallible human. Sorry yours is.

TheRedneck

According to some on ATS, its the reverse. The all powerful Israel/Mossad has made puppets of everyone..

No matter what trump does, it won't change the opinion of him in Israel.

www.haaretz.com...

a reply to: olaru12

When the President recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, it made a lot of people very happy. Other Presidents made promises...but you know how that goes.

originally posted by: olaru12
No matter what trump does, it won't change the opinion of him in Israel.

www.haaretz.com...

You posted an OPINION piece by an emotionally charged editor...even than his opening statement actually just confirmed the overwhelming support he has there 😆

Seriously, what's with the elementary grasp of information you're exhibiting? Are you intentionally trying to further erode your intellectually capacity to be critical?
I mean, you googled "I hate tRump" and picked one that was "Orange Man Bad" but than saw another that was "Reeeee!", Lo and behold you went for the "Reeeee!", Jesus boi, you never learn, eh?

originally posted by: TheRedneck
We seriously have to get control of our Congress back. It's one thing to try and tell our allies to pony up their fare share of the cost, but quite another one to condemn that and then think it's perfectly fine and dandy to just go around insulting countries and then trying to go visit them.

Cant disagree, we do need to get control of our Congress back.

As it is now, our Congress is being controlled by the largest recipient of our foreign welfare: Israel.

Its difficult to imagine that in the United States, our elected representatives do not have the freedom to criticize a foreign State without severe consequences.

Lets review the verbal crimes which triggered the now incessant attacks:

She criticized Israel.

She criticized AIPAC.

And she implied that US politicians who are dual Israeli/American citizens may be placing the interests of Israel over those of the Unites States.


Israel is an ally?

Theyve spied on us via Jonathan Pollard and sold our secrets to Russia.

Theyve ATTACKED us: On this day, June 8, 1967, Israel attacked the USS liberty.

Theyve created a defacto ban on free speech when it comes to saying anything remotely critical of Israel IN THE UNITED STATES.

With allies like this, who needs enemies...?

TheREDneck, Ive got some bad news for you.

With the exception of those who place Israel ahead of the USA, there is not a single Representative who is ok with the idea that they are not openly permitted to criticize a foreign State.

They hate the fact (and rightfully so) that Israel via AIPAC runs our country with an iron fist but this will never be publicly stated because everyone knows what happens if you dare speak out against Israel.

They speak about it to each other, whisper it in the corridors of power, resenting it, hating it, reinforcing and encouraging hatred towards Israel, which over time inevitably becomes real or perceived antisemitism.

EVERY American should be incensed and outraged, raising hell, that we have allowed this type of takeover, and in plain view no less.

I realize its David Duke but even a broken clock is right twice a day:

Dr Duke & Eric Striker:
By Defiance to Z.O.G. Ilhan Omar is NOW the most important Member of the US Congress! t.co... pic.twitter.com/C083V57VQp
— David Duke (@DrDavidDuke) March 7, 2019

Simply stated, she is important because the dared expose the gorilla in Congress that nobody dares speak! There is no salvation of our people heritage, rights and freedom until Z.O.G is overthrown! Listen to this broadcast! t.co...
— David Duke (@DrDavidDuke) March 7, 2019

a reply to: RalagaNarHallas


Thanks, I ended up finding it earlier.

a reply to: gladtobehere

I guess it comes down to. . . . .

Do you think the state of Israel should exist?


*shrugs*

Wasn't Ilhan Omar censured by Congress for her anti-Semitic statements?

a reply to: DBCowboy

No, thats a strawman argument and a deflection.

It just happens to be Israel and their lobby AIPAC.

We should be outraged regardless of the foreign country: Germany, the UK, Canada etc. These are all our "allies".

If any of these foreign nations had a stranglehold on our government as Israel does, it should trigger a national outrage and be a cause for concern.

Incorrect, it comes down to, should the US Congress have First Amendment rights.

And should our government be living in fear of a foreign lobbying group.

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: DBCowboy

No, thats a strawman argument.

It comes down to, should the US Congress have First Amendment rights.

And should our government be living in fear of a foreign lobbying group.

No ones taken anyone's rights away.

Do you think the state of Israel should exist?

Lots of people don't.

originally posted by: Sillyolme

Hardly a week goes by that you dont hear about an anti semitic comment?
Omar made one and profusely apologized for it.

In February, Omar, 37, apologized after Democratic leaders condemned remarks she made about the pro-Israel lobby in the United States as using anti-Semitic stereotypes.

Just what has she said since then?
They are going to Israel to tour the west bank and palestinian holdings in the area.

They are muslims after all.

I am sure trump's tweet about them hating israel and ALL JEWISH PEOPLE is exaggerated just a bit.

Some people said some bad things.....

How dare anyone speak out against Israeli policy and get labeled an anti Semite because of it. How dare anyone speak out against American policy and get labeled an anti American. SMH sounds like a bunch of snowflakes that can't take any criticism.

Always deny ignorance and question the establishment, always question your governments motives. Right now the United States gives billions to Israel to fund a never ending proxy war. What if those billions were used towards peace and not war?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: DBCowboy

No, thats a strawman argument.

It comes down to, should the US Congress have First Amendment rights.

And should our government be living in fear of a foreign lobbying group.

No ones taken anyone's rights away.

Do you think the state of Israel should exist?

Lots of people don't.

Maybe we should cuss out God for telling them it is their land

Here. You first.

a reply to: conspiracy nut


That's where you are wrong.


Have an issue with Israel policy? Cool.


Have an issue with the right of Israel to exist? Not so much.


Have an issue with American policy? Cool.

Have an issue with the Constitution and individual rights? Not so much.


See the difference?

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: DBCowboy

No, thats a strawman argument.

It comes down to, should the US Congress have First Amendment rights.

And should our government be living in fear of a foreign lobbying group.

No ones taken anyone's rights away.

Do you think the state of Israel should exist?

Lots of people don't.

Maybe we should cuss out God for telling them it is their land

Here. You first.

pfft!

Have you seen the religious threads lately?

I'd rather shampoo a rabid weasel than get in the middle of that hate-fest!

This is almost as funny as when President Trump canceled Nancy Pelosis plane.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: DBCowboy

No, thats a strawman argument.

It comes down to, should the US Congress have First Amendment rights.

And should our government be living in fear of a foreign lobbying group.

No ones taken anyone's rights away.

Do you think the state of Israel should exist?

Lots of people don't.

Maybe we should cuss out God for telling them it is their land

Here. You first.

pfft!

Have you seen the religious threads lately?

I'd rather shampoo a rabid weasel than get in the middle of that hate-fest!

God is not a religion

a reply to: DBCowboy

Define right to exist? When will Israel be happy existing, they keep building settlements and taking more and more land. Who decides how much land they deserve? At what point does their ideology become extremist?

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: DBCowboy

Define right to exist? When will Israel be happy existing, they keep building settlements and taking more and more land. Who decides how much land they deserve? At what point does their ideology become extremist?

Typical.

I suppose you think America shouldn't exist either.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Where in that response do you read that. Sure Israel has a right to exist but the question is at what borders? They keep expanding and expanding and taking and taking. If you think that's ok that is where we don't agree. Does the u.s in modern day times have the right to start building settlements in Mexico and Canada? I don't believe in expansionism in today's day and age.