a reply to: DustybudzZ
Most Christians try to convince people that God and Jesus exist by quoting the Bible because if you look at the history of the people/the times/the
culture, look at archeological finds, look at how prophecy has occured and how prophecy is occurring right now and will continue in the future then
you might believe it as being divinely inspired.
The Bible is not God, but contains the inspired Word of God. Man wrote it but inspired by God.
Many times it is man's interpretation – what people glean from the Bible, and not necessarily what God wants us to take from it, which would be
mankind’s interpretation instead of correct message. Many are wrong, some twist it on purpose, others use their take on it for personal gain. One is
always supposed to pray before reading the Bible so that we can read it with the understanding that it was intended for.
There is a warning at the end of Revelations:
Revelation 22:18 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
“I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written
in this book.”
True, the last thing a non-believer, athiests, etc. want to hear is a quote from the Bible. Of course, why would they when they have set their hearts
against God? Many don’t want to listen thinking they are going to get a speech especially if made to feel condemned about sins. A Christian that
knows the love of Jesus will not preach such, but instead will share the love of Jesus. But, I would not say this is the case for every single such
individual. You are generalizing on behalf of everyone when you say this.
They don't believe in the first place so what makes you think you can convince them just by quoting from a book that they hold no value in whatsoever?
You say they don’t believe in the Bible in the first place so what makes a believer think they can convince them by quoting from a book that they
hold no value in whatsoever. Think on this: perhaps it is a divine meeting of circumstance, that God has placed the believer in that spot to share
some insight with the non-believer. It happens all the time. Or perhaps that person is broken, alone, has no self worth – a Christian’s message
should always be the example they lead by the behavior in their life. Everything a Christian does should always be with the awareness that it is God
as their absolute witness, which means we witness by the example of our lives. We are to spread love, kindness, help to all. I can’t see many
refusing that. The message isn’t all about, “you are a sinner.”
I, too, consider myself a follower of Christ not a Christian.
I, as well, do not believe in any organized religion. It has all been man made. I don’t follow any one man or woman. I follow Jesus.
The Bible is a love letter, instruction manual, amap to the past and a map to the future for God’s sons and daughters.
I agree, one does not need to be part of an organized religion to be a believer of God.
I don’t think God would laugh at the Bible. I do believe he would declare it to be good and that those who have changed any details in the Bible
will be dealt with, and that he is upset that any part of the Bible has been tampered with, because tampering may lead any individual to lose sight of
God as a result.
Keep in mind that not all is revealed to us all at once. We are sometimes given glimpses of understanding as to the Bible’s message(s). Other times
we realize more in a specific verse than what we first got out of it. This is due to a deeper understanding. The Bible is alive! Perhaps the Bible
does not have all the answers, but God has given us what we need. We are in human form and when we become spirit then we will have full knowledge.
Yes, to some degree you do have to go by what's in your heart, but I believe with the awareness that sometimes the complete message is not for me to
know yet. Or that I need to learn the simple message first before the depths can be grasped. Always, we are to pray for discernment from Holy Spirit.
It would be hard to hold up your argument when all you do is quote a book that was written by man a long time ago... if you don’t understand the
past, the culture, who God is and how he works as a triune group.
It’s a shame non-believers could care less about the Bible. I believe that is because they don’t understand the history of that time. Example: I
always had a problem with the treatment of the Israelites when they sinned against God in the desert. However, I just became aware that the Ten
Commandments were written specifically for the Jewish people. They made a convenant with God and agreed to the terms. So, when they sinned against God
they reaped the consequences. Now it makes sense.
Yes, followers of Christ get ridiculed when trying to present their case and it’s often because men’s hearts have hardened against God. This is a
prophecy and it’s never been more evident than now (well, other than in Noah’s time). People scoff, criticize and love to argue with Christians.
They think most Christians are fanatical loonies and if followers would humble themselves and remember that we are all equal to each other in terms of
who we too were before we accepted Jesus, then we can never ever look down on anyone else or condemn them. It’s not our place to judge anyone else.
We are to love and if someone wants to hear the gospel then go for it. No one can force another to become a Christian just as God doesn’t force us
to love him.
We should quote the Bible when need be and if someone is interested. The Bible is stunning in its incredible detail and the way everything is
Think about this for a second:
2. Unique In Unity And Harmony - Over a period of 1600 years, God commissioned 40 different Jewish authors from all walks of life and living on
three continents to write the 66 books of the Bible. From Genesis to Revelation, the writers cohesively reveal a complex drama about God’s
redemption of man from eternity past to eternity future. Think how incredible this is! It’s hard to get two or three people in the same room to
agree on several important ideas, yet here you have 40 men separated by 1600 years and three continents all agreeing about dozens of the most
I’ll get to the second half of your challenge when I have more time.
For now, take care and all the best.