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The Holy Bible is not GOD!!!

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posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ


Your all the same you all think your GODs favorite...


There's no such thing, so that's only an issue you apparently have with yourself.


Are you a pastor?


No. Wouldn't want to be. Too many people are easily offended when you teach the same thing Jesus taught. Many of his followers were offended and quit following Him too at their own peril.


Do you believe there should only be a one word religion?


No, that goes against free will.


Do you know your poop stinks like mine?


Yes, so don't be so easily offended. Not every debate is a personal attack unless you want to make it out to be one.




posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ


See right there...

How do you know GOD's standards??

The bible...I know I know


That's right. It's the only thing we currently have to go by and Jesus recommends himself to be familiar with it. A personal relationship with Jesus is something that is built a combination of ways. While Jesus speaks to us through prayer, dreams, AND scripture, it's important that you take advantage of all three. Anything you are told spiritually should never go against biblical principles. That's how you'll know you're being deceived...or not.



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posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined


There's no such thing,


Your right that was actually a joke too



Too many people are easily offended when you teach the same thing Jesus taught. Many of his followers were offended and quit following Him too at their own peril. 


Honestly what does that mean? I have never heard of this?? (Intrigued)


No, that goes against free will.


True

let me rephrase the question

Do you think all religions come from the same source? ie.
(They are all talking about the same GOD)


Yes, so don't be so easily offended. Not every debate is a personal attack unless you want to make it out to be one


Now wait a minute....

In my defense I didn't try to make it out to be a personal attack...
At first I was just trying to discuss my OP and then everyone (manly you) lol went off subject and started attacking my personal faith and I was just defending it



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

If you consider my pointing out your contradictions an attack on your faith, so be it. Once again, that's how you perceived it while I was truly trying to figure out where you were coming from. I'm sorry. Forgive and forget.

As for Jesus losing followers based on what he taught (about himself), go read John 6.

This was a situation where some probably didn't even understand what Jesus was saying and some still don't. Others just turned away because they didn't want to believe that He was the Messiah that the Old Testament prophesied about.



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined


It's the only thing we currently have to go by


No it's not wow

really?? I thought most Christians knew this

Honestly I think if Jesus was here in this time he would say the bible sould be your last resort...

I know it's hard because it's all we have to back up our claims
Trust me I know I'm always looking for new ways to talk to people about GOD and Jesus because they just dont want to hear it and they definitely won't listen if all you have to back it up is the bible


Anything you are told spiritually should never go against biblical principles. That's how you'll know you're being deceived...or not. 


That I don't agree with I believe we all have the gift of discernment



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ


That I don't agree with I believe we all have the gift of discernment


The Bible even mentions the elite being on the verge of being deceived if He doesn't step in.

If you've opened up YOURSELF to some kind of "Christian mysticism", you've opened yourself up for deception and the Holy Spirit won't intervene in situations where you were warned and decided to wander into it anyway.



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined

I dont believe I contradicted myself...
It may be hard to understand and explain even for me that's why it's so hard to debate

I believe you was honestly trying to figure out where I'm coming from

Most people would think I'm not a "follower of Christ" but I am

What I'm saying is just like when Christians used to chop off heads in the name of jesus back in the day that was the right thing to them back then it was the normal...

I just feel...
not the whole bible...
but alot of "today's bible" is man made and not truly the "word of GOD"

So for me it has nothing to do with GOD or Jesus it's more about...
Organized religion, the Bible (because of scripture changes, removal & additions) churches, the Vatican

Those are the reasons I don't consider myself a Christian

But my faith is strong!



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: DustybudzZ


That I don't agree with I believe we all have the gift of discernment


The Bible even mentions the elite being on the verge of being deceived if He doesn't step in.

If you've opened up YOURSELF to some kind of "Christian mysticism", you've opened yourself up for deception and the Holy Spirit won't intervene in situations where you were warned and decided to wander into it anyway.




How is "discernment" considered
"Christian mysticism"

Do you believe in speaking in tongues?

And in your opinion what do you think speaking in tongues means?



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined


As for Jesus losing followers based on what he taught (about himself), go read John 6.


John 6 ?

Jesus feeds the five thousand?



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

Speaking in tongues is biblical, although I don't believe many are practicing it in the right way or for the right reasons.

Why do you believe that the Bible should be a last resort? Is it because you don't understand it?

As for John 6, Jesus tried to explain to them how He was the bread from Heaven that they needed in order to "live", but they didn't want to believe it.



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 05:55 PM
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You can’t win the crowd over Dusty and you will just have to accept that

I agree with your argument, it’s a book that teaches us about Christ and is a great book, well written great stories but in and of itself, it’s just a book. Choose to believe it, and evidently you do but worship it as perfect, that’s what some choose

The bible has become a sacred cow to many Christians, questioning it is considered today by many a heresy

Arguing from authority when many don’t accept the authority does not work. Jesus taught love



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined

I see you should have said john: 5 & 6 lol sorry


Why do you believe that the Bible should be a last resort? Is it because you don't understand it? 


I understand whatever GOD reveals to me

And I have already stated the answer to your question numerous times so I'm not going to keep repeating myself sorry


I dont see how john: 6 pertains to me or the thread topic?



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

The funny but kinda sad part is
Deetermined is the only one that is keeping it going

Lol


I really just think there is some MAJOR issues...
That need to be discussed more in the Christian / followers of Christ community



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 06:12 PM
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And ooooo boy doggy dose his name fit him LOL




posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ


I dont believe I contradicted myself...
It may be hard to understand and explain even for me that's why it's so hard to debate


That's part of why your thread is dropping off, plus your memory and your attention span are short, which is why you can't remember why John 6 got brought up. It all shows a pattern of why you don't like reading the Bible, so there isn't much more to talk about.

Have a good evening.



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined


That's part of why your thread is dropping off,


No that just proves my point no one wants to talk about it lol
And that's why


which is why you can't remember why John 6 got brought up.


Umm... because you brought it up randomly just more word vomit of bible quotes


It all shows a pattern of why you don't like reading the Bible


I think I have said this before...

But I have already stated why I don't fully trust and base my faith off the bible

Never said I didn't read it...

That's your words lol once again putting words in people's mouth


there isn't much more to talk about. 

Have a good evening.


The most wise thing you said all day


Much love brother



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

Let me help you remember how John 6 got brought up...

Me: Too many people are easily offended when you teach the same thing Jesus taught. Many of his followers were offended and quit following Him too at their own peril.

You: Honestly what does that mean? I have never heard of this?? (Intrigued)

I answered and you still didn't understand. I never said you didn't read the Bible, I said it's clear that you don't like to because, to me, you have shown that you have trouble understanding it, you have a short memory, and your attention span is short.


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posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 07:15 PM
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I know how it got brought up

I said

I dont see how john: 6 pertains to me or the thread topic?


I didn't understand what you ment earlier

Which is why I said

"O I see you should have said John: 5 & 6"

Never said "I couldn't remember how it got brought up"

Once again your words

Lol I just don't care enough about what YOU have to say that's all

Lol your funny




I think someone is off there meds



I think I have a secret admirer guys!!!

Lol

J/k J/k lol
much love bro

I bet your gonna write back right?
Because you apparently need to have the last word lol

It's ok I still love you



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined

I know how it got brought up

I said

I dont see how john: 6 pertains to me or the thread topic?


I didn't understand what you ment earlier

Which is why I said

"O I see you should have said John: 5 & 6"

Never said "I couldn't remember how it got brought up"

Once again your words

Lol I just don't care enough about what YOU have to say that's all

Lol your funny




I think someone is off there meds



I think I have a secret admirer guys!!!

Lol

J/k J/k lol
much love bro

I bet your gonna write back right?
Because you apparently need to have the last word lol

It's ok I still love you



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ


Umm... because you brought it up randomly just more word vomit of bible quotes


I've already shown you where I made a statement and you asked me a question about that statement. I told you the answer to your statement could be found in John 6, not John 5. John 5 doesn't have anything to do with it.

Regardless of whether you thought John 6 had anything to do with the title of your thread is irrelevant. You asked me a question and I answered it.

Now go take your ADHD meds.



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