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originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
Plus Giuffre can't actually remember how old she was she says around 17/18. Could have been a bit older or bit younger she doesn't recall. Is that paedophilia? Nope....morally wrong...societally wrong but not paedophilia. Does she look coerced or threatened in any of the photos that have been shuffling around the internet? Do you think her or any other woman would pass up the chance of an affair with a prince? Or Celeb? We've all done dumb stuff as a teen its easy to be starstruck..I know I did similar when I hung around with various bands including lying about my age. For Giuffre to say Prince Andrew touched her breast is a far cry from having sex being raped or paedophilia
NOTE: I am NOT saying there was no paedophilia occurring in Epsteins' / Maxwells' tangled dark web as I feel certain there was a huge variety of strangeness deviancy and illegal activity going on but in the instance of Prince Andrew from what I've read Giuffre has never said her and the Prince had sex or she was forced or raped....but I'm open to further info if I'm lacking.
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Freeborn
pedos and the like are everywhere , in the upper and lower parts of humanity it just seems to be a part of humanity
control abuse and power !
thing is , the upper echelon ones are less likely to be caught and prosecuted
the worst thing is the victims never appear to have any form of justice .
We are slowly creating a world of damaged humans
originally posted by: pheonix358
If Charley has to refuse the crown because the people know, and If William has to refuse as well, does it go to Harry?
The answer being, it depends on how Charles and William refuse the crown.
And no I wouldn't, never......under no circumstances, regardless of the amount of alcohol consumed. NEVER.
then we can give ourselves* a pat on the back for once , put our feet up ( a bit) and watch the show unfold