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reply posted on 8-7-2003 @ 06:45 PM by fixx
circle = flat round surface

fixx



reply posted on 8-7-2003 @ 07:04 PM by Valhall
Well, I agree this is matter of semantics AND translation. But I would also offer that no where have I heard or read that the men ordained with the task of writing down the Bible (which I believe divinely inspired) were given scientific knowledge ahead of their time.

Can you imagine the scene:

and God tells Daniel "Write down that part about you seeing that big tree coming out of the center of the earth and such."

Daniel reads out loud as he writes: " saw a tree of great height at the center of the world. It was large and strong, with its top touching the heavens, and it could be seen from the ends of the earth."

God interrupts: "Ahem, Daniel, that kind of makes the earth sound...well, flat."

Daniel: "Your point?"

God: "Uhhh, it's not, it's round...And not even really 'round' but an oblate spheriod."

Daniel: "What the heck is a 'old blate's fearoid'?"

God: "Well, like an orange, only squooshed a little at the navel. And spinning as a matter of fact."

Daniel: "You're kidding me???"

God: "No, that's how I made it."

Daniel: "Which way are we spinning?"

God: "West to east."

Daniel: "Poppycock! God, do you want me to finish this or not?"

God: "Daniel, have I lied to you yet?"

Daniel: "Well, how do we not fall off then?"

God: "Gravity."

Daniel: "Whativy"

God: "Gravity."

Daniel: "What the heck is that???"

God: "Well, you see, if you take a little mass...

Daniel: "What's a little mast got to do with it?"

God:"...oh piffle, Daniel, just finish up, ok?"

[Edited on 9-7-2003 by Valhall]


reply posted on 8-7-2003 @ 07:35 PM by Tyriffic
Originally posted by fixx
Couple of quotes:

"And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth ." -Isaiah 11:12

"And after these things I saw four angels standing on four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree." -Revelation 7:1

"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved" -Psalm 104:5

"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble" -Job 9:6

"Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea." -Job 11:9

"That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?" -Job 38:13

"I saw a tree of great height at the center of the world. It was large and strong, with its top touching the heavens, and it could be seen from the ends of the earth." -Daniel 4:7-8

"Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world [cosmos] in their glory." -Matthew 4:8

Seems to indicate flat.

fixx


You must consider the time in which and for whom this was written. Scientific formulae would not have the same instructional effect. You can understand the four directions of the compass??

Four corners..........N S E W

The foundation spoke of here relates to the setting of the Earth in its place in space, like all other objects.

The devil(Satan) took Jesus (we can only conjecture how this actually came about) to a high mountain and in a vision, showed him all of the present and future kingdoms of the world...........nothing to do with geology.
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