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Can we stop with the lie the fbi will still bring the powerful to justice despite Epstein’s death?

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posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy


If we have corrupt government now, we'll have a corrupt socialist government later.


The inverse would be a kleptocracy which is arguably the situation we're in.

In reality, the only way we avoid both is if the populace does their function and express civil and personable responsibility in staying informed and using that to make the right decisions in electing our employees. As it stands very few of the population does this and would rather it just be done for them with blind trust. As long as we stay on that course we will have a bad government.




posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

I just think the FBI is a symptom of a problem at this point, not the source.

I'm also starting to believe this admin is just serving as a distraction to the right just as Obama did to the left. People truly believed Obama brought hope and change, this president promising the inverse to the right. So the left was appeased with their white knight, and now the right with their's.

At the end of the day we're in the same place we were decades ago, wheels spinning.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Many share your frustration Grambler, this whole thing reeks ! Hopefully his victims and society at large can
take some comfort in the fact that Epstein was DONE, denied bail and seemingly No amount of money was going to buy his freedom this time, that's progress since his last sweetheart deal.

The public is becoming more and more aware of just how widespread Human trafficking actually is and how closely it's related to blackmail and our whole corrupt swamp of Government officials too ! It's not over because JE is presumably dead, maybe buys a little more time for his "associates", but perhaps these folks that think they can operate with impunity are quickly learning, the tides have changed....ask El Chapo !

Keep the Faith....it's work like yours that is the reason these swap creatures are going down and resigning like flies.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:18 AM
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if all those diaries he supposedly has go missing, that there are some problems with the chain of evidence, a investigation that gets quietly conducted for years until it is eventually just snowballed quietly and this whole thing just becomes a sad footnote in history, fizzles out to nothing.

His death basically lets them control the narrative, he could have made a deal to speak out against all his rich friends and what they have been getting up to. Now they can just destroy the evidence, they will make it look like it was all him and a few pasties while the real crooks and monsters he was doing this stuff with will walk free.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: MountainLaurel
a reply to: Grambler

No amount of money was going to buy his freedom this time,


The money bought his death, which is his freedom.

No trail. No prison. No public embarrassment. No justice.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: FauxMulder

originally posted by: MountainLaurel
a reply to: Grambler

No amount of money was going to buy his freedom this time,


The money bought his death, which is his freedom.

No trail. No prison. No public embarrassment. No justice.


*One trick to escape jail the justice department doesn't want you to know about*-Buzzfeed



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:34 AM
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I'm sure all the collected Epstein evidence is now safe and secure right alongside Wiener's laptop and Hillary's emails.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

i have to agree with you. I often wonder if "they" don't have a cocktail lounge where they drink and point at these items while cackling and laugh like maniacs.

"Wipe it, like with a cloth?" Bwah hahaha! Good one hillary, that was priceless. Let me pour you another one!


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posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:46 AM
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I have absolute faith in government - to do the wrong thing.
Every Single Time



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

This is how it looks to me as well.

He lied about being attacked because that's what people who truly want to kill themselves will do. They lie and make it seem like they want to live.

The guards knew it, the staff knew it, the warden knew it.

They let him do it.

I would like to know why they did that though.
Did they fear that he would get off?
Did they just want him dead for personal reasons? Same reasons we all wanted him dead.
Were they told to let it happen by higher ups?

This sucks. I wanted epstien to talk more than any person that has ever been arrested in my life time.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

They didn't prevent his suicide they allowed it.
Its as simple as that
They removed his cellmate and didn't do their every thirty minute check.

Completely agree

How can we trust anything the fbi says at this point?

They are incredibly corrupt and should be disbanded


Every liberal over the age of 40 just cheered for this statement.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

They didn't prevent his suicide they allowed it.
Its as simple as that
They removed his cellmate and didn't do their every thirty minute check.

Completely agree

How can we trust anything the fbi says at this point?

They are incredibly corrupt and should be disbanded


Every liberal over the age of 40 just cheered for this statement.


Except the so called liberals that cheered the fbi when they were going after trump

Including their media that told us to question the fbi hurt America

But hey, maybe we can all come together on wanting this corruption removed



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep


It also makes sense that Epstein wanted to live...but knew he was a target.
He could've lied about or staged his FIRST attack...perhaps with the cellmate...in order to get the extra protection inherent in being put on 'Suicide Watch'.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
FBI, CIA, NSA are nothing more than high dollar thugs. They plot, conspire with gangs, cartels, set-up political opponents and political adversaries, business owners, order hits, double cross informants. Most of it also completely backfires. Bay of pigs, '___' counter culture, Hillary's emails. But somehow we are suppose to trust them. Yeah right.


Much more is successful than backfires. Either way I have no confidence or trust in any law enforcement organization that I have ever been involved with.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

That's pretty much my attitude. I want the corruption gone. I don't care about the grandstanding, posturing, snark, name-calling, or who gets elected or not.

I want the truth. We cannot hope to fix these issues if we can't even identify what the problems are because we're too busy with bull#.

Epstein's murder should come as a wake up call for all of us. There is something deeply wrong, we took our eye off the ball and now look at us.l

This is President Trump's time to put up or shut up with regard to the deep state/swamp.
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posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: Themaskedbeast
Well the coroner report came back inconclusive and now they are bringing in a celebrity pathologist. If he hung himself how could the report be inconclusive and what the hell is a celebrity pathologist.


Ya, this is getting fishier by the minute.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Just when I thought your stock couldn't get much higher with me you go on and say something like that.


This is President Trump's time to put up or shut up with regard to the deep state/swamp.


Indeed... I'm back on board if the admin rises to the occasion and makes sure this follows through. If the case stops dead though, the victims will be allowed to take this to civil court and do NDA's... If that's the case I'll probably do a write in for a no chancer. I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worse. I'd welcome being surprised and I'll celebrate that and defend them.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

They didn't prevent his suicide they allowed it.
Its as simple as that
They removed his cellmate and didn't do their every thirty minute check.

Completely agree

How can we trust anything the fbi says at this point?

They are incredibly corrupt and should be disbanded


Every liberal over the age of 40 just cheered for this statement.


Except the so called liberals that cheered the fbi when they were going after trump

Including their media that told us to question the fbi hurt America

But hey, maybe we can all come together on wanting this corruption removed


It's never too late, don't let the opportunity for some common ground pass by.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

They didn't prevent his suicide they allowed it.
Its as simple as that
They removed his cellmate and didn't do their every thirty minute check.

Completely agree

How can we trust anything the fbi says at this point?

They are incredibly corrupt and should be disbanded


Every liberal over the age of 40 just cheered for this statement.


Except the so called liberals that cheered the fbi when they were going after trump

Including their media that told us to question the fbi hurt America

But hey, maybe we can all come together on wanting this corruption removed


Fleeting praise that was never felt in their hearts.
Liberals have long been known to dislike the fbi and law enforcement in general.

My few liberal friends are hoping the fbi goes down at the end of all this.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

You know they say sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

What if the truth is that he really did just commit suicide?
It would be very evil/genius on his part.



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