Can we stop with the lie the fbi will still bring the powerful to justice despite Epstein’s death?

So as many of us predicted, many in the mainstream are now decrying “conspiracy theories” about Epstein and his death.

One of the things many of these people, and even other well intended people are saying is that even though Epstein is dead, it doesn’t mean the case is dead, and Epstein’s powerful friends who also committed these crimes could still be brought to justice.

Well I’m sorry, but that is just garbage.

I’m supposed to believe that the same fbi that gave Epstein a slap on the wrist in 2009, then was forced to arrest him again because the court documents on Epstein were about to be released

The same fbi that knew Epstein either tried to kill him self or was attacked weeks ago, but decided he didn’t need cameras on his cell or increased surveillance

The same fbi who allowed the most important prisoner and witness to the most heinous crimes committed by some of the most powerful in the world to be killed while in their custody, despite the fact that everyone knew this was a huge possibility

I’m now supposed to believe that that fbi is now going to take the case seriously and they will bring the powerful to justice?

What a joke!

If the fbi couldn’t protect Epstein, how can they protect the evidence they got? Am I to believe that they are monitoring the evidence better than they did Epstein?

Or maybe they are destroying the evidence with hammers like they did recently in another famous case

These mainstream people may think I am a conspiracy theorist for not believing the official story and not trusting the fbi

But i think believing the official story and trusting the fbi to actually finally not be corrupt or incompetent and finally bring the powerful to justice is the dumbest conspiracy of all

a reply to: Grambler


Having faith in government = being stupid

a reply to: Grambler

I'm very skeptical of the FBI, mainly because since their inception, have done things that effected politics and also been tied to many shady things.

That said I don't think the FBI really does much day to day in regards to someone who is incarcerated... Maybe they could request that someone stay in a federal building holding area, but past that an inmate is handled by Department of Corrections.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Grambler


Having faith in government = being stupid

Trust but verify, in regards to government.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I believe this was a federal facility that Epstein was in

Regardless of that, the fbi in their press conference when the first arrested Epstein and asked for victims to come forward said this was the first case listed when you called on, ie the most important one

It was well within the fbis power to make sure this prisoner was kept under special surveillance because the chance of suicide or murder was so high

So if the fbi, AFTER the attempt on Epstein’s life a few weeks ago, whether is was an attack or self inflicted, did not ensure Epstein was under constant surveillance, they are at fault

FBI, far to many entities and agendas inside the organization. The elections will take center light soon, Epstein will lay dormant.

a reply to: Grambler

The deep state organisation have specialists everywhere. To make the Epstein evidence disappear they will sent the same crew that collected all the Apollo documents/tapes/files and made it disappear...by accident. Don't worry that crew can take the blame and will never be seen again....until the next "problem".

FBI, CIA, NSA are nothing more than high dollar thugs. They plot, conspire with gangs, cartels, set-up political opponents and political adversaries, business owners, order hits, double cross informants. Most of it also completely backfires. Bay of pigs, '___' counter culture, Hillary's emails. But somehow we are suppose to trust them. Yeah right.

a reply to: Grambler

I'm not absolving the FBI, just pointing out they aren't the end all be all when it comes to incarceration.

If we are to take the suggested narrative, a perfect storm ensued which resulted in him committing suicide. He was removed from suicide watch, the guards were pulling too many shifts and not doing the check on him every 30 minutes... so on or so forth.

Or the story is BS.

So either way, even if they had made such requests, the facility looked incompetent or nefarious.

Does anyone know if solitary confinement cells usually have video surveillance?

Cause I bet mueller and the fbi made sure someone like manafort was under constant surveillance

They knew he could bring down a guy they didn’t like, trump, so I am sure they made sure nothing happened to him

Epstein on the other hand, well he could bring down powerful people the fbi didn’t want bright down, so no need to have him under surveillance, even AFTER an attempt was made in his life

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
FBI, CIA, NSA are nothing more than high dollar thugs. They plot, conspire with gangs, cartels, set-up political opponents and political adversaries, business owners, order hits, double cross informants. Most of it also completely backfires. Bay of pigs, '___' counter culture, Hillary's emails. But somehow we are suppose to trust them. Yeah right.

As I said, I don't trust the FBI, their track record makes that too hard.

I'm just trying to look at everything unbiased to try and find the truth.

Either way, we all know the narrative given in the end won't satisfy everyone, and then they will memory hole it.... Nothing to see here folks, we just made some oopsies, sorry about that, it won't happen again until it does.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I still refuse to give the fbi that much credit

Everyone, from the victims lawyer to fat guys in couches like me knew there would be a good chance Epstein would be dead from his own hand or someone else’s before the trial

If the fbi didn’t take it upon themselves to constantly check the condition Epstein was in, and make sure he was under constant surveillance even AFTER he was harmed weeks earlier, they are responsible

How did some guy like me know better than the fbi?

This shows the fbi is either helplessly dumb and worthless, and should therefore be terminated immediately

Or they are corrupt,(which is what I believe) and should also be terminated and those responsible imprisoned

Well the coroner report came back inconclusive and now they are bringing in a celebrity pathologist. If he hung himself how could the report be inconclusive and what the hell is a celebrity pathologist.

Man this is one of those cases where I completely agree with you.

I'd wager that any evidence acquired in the raid on his mansion earlier will also coincidentally disappear somehow. Nice neat buttoned up end to what could have been disastrous for a lot of wealthy millionaires/billionaires....

a reply to: Themaskedbeast

If he hung himself how could the report be inconclusive and what the hell is a celebrity pathologist.

From what I read the pathologist you speak of was on the board for the examination of JFK, MLK, and many others... Suspicious in and of itself if true.

a reply to: Grambler

Does anyone know if solitary confinement cells usually have video surveillance?

Apparently not...

There’s no surveillance video of the incident in which Jeffrey Epstein apparently hanged himself in a federal lockup in Lower Manhattan, law enforcement officials told The Post on Sunday.

Although there are cameras in the 9 South wing where the convicted pedophile was being held at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, they are trained on the areas outside the cells and not inside, according to sources familiar with the setup there.

Link

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Trust but verify, in regards to government.

Burn it to the ground.

a reply to: Grambler

If the fbi couldn’t protect Epstein, how can they protect the evidence they got? Am I to believe that they are monitoring the evidence better than they did Epstein?

Wouldn't, not couldn't.

a reply to: Grambler

I don't disagree that things have become so bureaucratic it borderlines redundant and creates more problems than solutions.

I just don't know who is to blame in this one. Did the FBI make those requests? I'd like to know.

But I don't think they have the power to dictate everything, they are just the investigators and LEO of sorts. You have prison facilities, the DOJ, Judges, and attorneys in the picture too.

I think many are involved, best not to let one group or person be the patsy.

a reply to: Grambler

They didn't prevent his suicide they allowed it.
Its as simple as that
They removed his cellmate and didn't do their every thirty minute check.