I do not believe Epstein is dead

When too much is at stake information wise and you can’t cover up the situation without huge risk of truths being revealed absolute destruction of the problem is the best solution, so his death is totally convenient for accomplishing the secrecies desired...
However when said problem has enough evidence squirrelled away and the means to have it released should he not get his own way, well then deals can be made to ensure a fresh new life for just such individuals and because of the spotlight the best way to accomplish it is to of course fake their death...
What’s more is the foresight into the possibility of this situation to eliminate some of the surprise....
Coincidentally we were given just such a display with the last suicide attempt...
And now we will bare witness to the distracting investigation of why he was removed from suicide watch and sent back to regular population... Of course this investigation will go nowhere...

Some powerful person stepped on him no more compunction than stepping on a bug .


Silenced

Imagine how high up and powerful this group of people are to have done what they’ve done here

How did Epstein nearly die the first time?

This time he hung himself under supposedly 24/7 surveillance in a cell which was thought impossible to hang... but he didn’t die in the cell, he died at the hospital at 6am something, oh and the cameras wasn’t working lol

This is insane

originally posted by: Secretrooster

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Secretrooster
Too many people want him dead. It’s more likely that he was assassinated.

Here's another thing to think about...
Considering the fact that he undoubtedly has blackmail on leaders and politicians from around the world, he's a potential massive source of power for whoever could manage to get their hands on him. I think it's just as likely that someone had him kidnapped as it is that someone had him killed. He was connected to people so powerful that anything is possible. We're talking about world leaders here. THIS is the kind of thing that intelligence agencies from around the world would be climbing over each other to get a piece of.

Possibly. Wouldn’t he have been kidnapped for information a long time ago then? Why wait until he’s been charged and arrested? At this point it seems like he was more of a liability than an asset.

You get outta here with that logical nonsense

It's very possible he was offed.

But being a billionaire, living the lifestyle he was used to living, the luxuries and freedoms he had had for so long, I doubt a life of confinement suited him. Regardless if he could have given up many powerful and wealthy people, there is no way he would get off. As he sat there in his cell, confined, cold, and awaiting the public exposure of his potential crimes, it seems logical he would rather die.

Sitting in that stark, cold cell, suicide seems a very logical and rationale conclusion.

If Epstein was so smart and so well connected, why didn't he take off earlier? He even had a prior case involving the same crimes, how long was he going to wait to disappear with all that heat? They said he was a flight risk because of some evidence found, like money, diamonds, a faked expired passport, etc. RIGHT! Like he needed that with him to flee out of the country, like he just thought of leaving now and wasn't quite ready.

He was destined to be the fall guy, he was a patsy that was set up and knocked down. So dead is my guess, it was the plan all along and Epstein was strung along until the end.

I don't know if there is an agency that could actually protect him considering how high ranking the elite molesters are that he would rat on. Somewhere in that mix would almost certainly be a person who had direct access to the person in charge of whatever agency was hiding him. That person could even be one of the elites he was about to rat on.

Oh course he is still alive.
He's a CIA asset. He's the keeper of the blackmail secrets.
Oh course it happens early saturday morning - won't make a big of a splash as a monday morning.
Epstein is alive and well, and well taken care of. He is deep state and very important to tptb.
This story is so fake! How brainwashed do tptb think the general public actually is? - rhetorical

originally posted by: byteshertz
A billion dollars is a lot of money.

I think sometimes we forget that translates to 1000 people he could give $1 million dollars to (sorry for pointing out the obvious but we just see these M's and B's thrown around so much).

A new identity and a fake death come a lot cheaper than that, that is all I am saying.

They would never leave that door open..a new identity that is. Too much of a risk.

In another thread a poster suggested he made a deal, and is on a plane to Israel..interesting idea, but he wouldn't arrive.

In any case this is as shady as it gets!

JM2C

I do not believe Epstein is dead

Buried at sea probably....

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
If Epstein was so smart and so well connected, why didn't he take off earlier? He even had a prior case involving the same crimes, how long was he going to wait to disappear with all that heat? They said he was a flight risk because of some evidence found, like money, diamonds, a faked expired passport, etc. RIGHT! Like he needed that with him to flee out of the country, like he just thought of leaving now and wasn't quite ready.

He was destined to be the fall guy, he was a patsy that was set up and knocked down. So dead is my guess, it was the plan all along and Epstein was strung along until the end.

All possible but also maybe he thought he was bullet proof with all the dirt he had on the movers and shakers on both sides of the Atlantic not to mention if he really was Mossad or CIA. Agents always think the agency will have their back but the reality is when you become a liability your best friend at said agency will off you.

a reply to: GArnold




Possibly, then Epstein would be a very high intelligence asset. And this would be an operation under Trump's intel. Forget all this Clinton murder nonsense.

Epstein wasn’t stupid. He would leave information with Lawyers if anything happened to him and maybe rat out everybody

link

Epstein’s crimes were carried out in his $56 million Manhattan mansion and in his oceanside villa in Palm Beach Florida. Both residences were equipped with hidden cameras and microphones in the bedrooms, which Epstein reportedly used to record sexual encounters between his high-profile guests and his underage girls, many of whom came from poor backgrounds, who were recruited by procurers to engage in what was euphemistically described as “massages” for money.

Unless Epstein is an extremely sick pedophile who enjoys watching films of other men screwing twelve-year-old girls the whole filming procedure smacks of a sophisticated intelligence service compiling material to blackmail prominent politicians and other public figures.

Those blackmailed would undoubtedly in most cases cooperate with the foreign government involved to avoid a major scandal. It is called recruiting “agents of influence.” That is how intelligence agencies work and it is what they do.
Acosta: ‘I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence’

That Epstein was perceived as being intelligence-linked was made clear in Acosta’s comments when being cleared by the Trump transition team. He was asked “Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?” … “Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he’d had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He’d cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had ‘been told’ to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. ‘I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone.’”

a reply to: 727Sky

You said it. When you become a liability you are no longer agency material. You are just a debt to be collected.

Did people here see the movie FX? A great movie with Brian Dennehy and Byron Brown…

The justice department hires a movie FX guy to plot a FAKE murder of a Mafia don


This could be a similar caper

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Vroomfondel


What is an Epstein, he's just an identity, on a birth cert. All of which can be changed, and no one is the wiser. I thought he'd be gone before now, the fact that he had a Saudi Passport in another name should have rung some bells. He's dead its over, you cant arrest a dead man. All the high value intelligence he garnered over the years is still safe and usable. I doubt whether it was all about slightly underage prostitution, which in most of the countries he had connections to they were of legal age, its probably about the rabbit hole it leads to.

A quote from the feds

Authorities believe Epstein hanged himself, a law enforcement source told CNN.

How does one believe he hanged himself? Is that a matter of faith. One either hung themselves or they didn't.


www.cnn.com...

Here is my take... Epstein is part of the deep state operations. The group has enough power to fake Epstein's death. They don't him dead because he is a treasure chest of information for them. They want him alive in some foreign location living in luxury out of sight. They set up the suicide idea with the first "marks on the neck" story. Then they really push the suicide idea with a supreme cover-up involving powerful group members in power positions. It's all a scam. The only thing they don't want is for Epstein to go to trial and details to come out. This is how they accomplish that.

originally posted by: Generation9
Here is my take... Epstein is part of the deep state operations. The group has enough power to fake Epstein's death. They don't him dead because he is a treasure chest of information for them. They want him alive in some foreign location living in luxury out of sight. They set up the suicide idea with the first "marks on the neck" story. Then they really push the suicide idea with a supreme cover-up involving powerful group members in power positions. It's all a scam. The only thing they don't want is for Epstein to go to trial and details to come out. This is how they accomplish that.

Not much anymore since his position is out in the open, information tends to grow old very fast unless it is something very very high end, in which case you use it at the moment you get it less someone else will do and then you lose your leverage

As it is right now, he is nothing but someone who knows too much, so either he got suicided or he got raptured so that they can get everything he knows out of him, then fulfill the suicide we all have already been informed about

You know, it works the same since high school and all that LMFAO! It just turns out that they are playing with bigger toys, but if you were like crazy into controlling people and you remember how it used to work with groups of friends and all the stuff you could do when you figured out things other people did and how you could use them for your own gains, it is exactly the same thing, right?


Haha i was a b*tch in high school, sorry

a reply to: 5StarOracle

You can be sure that "those people" prepared for this a long time ago and there may well have been an agreement among all that when the feces hit the fan Epstein would have to be sacrificed...but until then he would be assured a life of luxury and indulgence.