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2019 Mass Shooter Statistics Indicate more than half of shooters as Black..that can't be right?

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posted on Aug, 11 2019 @ 04:31 AM
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Some are held to higher standards.

Drive bys should even be considered.




posted on Aug, 11 2019 @ 04:35 AM
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originally posted by: matafuchs

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Furthermore, the call for gun bans. Did you know that a handgun was 3 times more likely to be used than a AR style weapon in a mass shooting? So the 'scary' weapons are not even the worst and that is what they are attempting to ban.

The issue today is gang violence not a nice rise of the KKK.

Educate and arm yourself people.


Exactly. It's interesting how the AR-15's are only used for those over the top incidents where the story changes and you never quite can get rid of the feeling it's a false flag operation.

Nobody wanders around with AR-15's in everyday life - but they just happen to be the kind of weapon that any oppressive government would hate a well regulated Militia to have.



posted on Aug, 11 2019 @ 04:44 AM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
The media and almost all DNC candidates as well as elected officials have stated that White Supremacy and Mass shootings caused by them are the largest threat to the United States.




He points out that while blanket media attention was focused on the shootings in El Paso and Dayton, 60 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend while Baltimore just reached its 200th murder victim of the year. Greenfield then quotes Rep. Ilhan Omar, CNN’s Don Lemon and Newsweek, who have all claimed that white people are the biggest mass shooter threat and have carried out more mass shootings than any other group. But that doesn’t appear to be the case for 2019.


Very Dangerous rhetoric but blaming the current POTUS for his statements. Look at the true statistics.

2019 so far has had 72 mass shootings. A mass shooting is described as one who has 4 or more victims.

51% were Black
29% were White
11% Latino
3 Asians
2 American Indians
1 Arab

it is not the NRA. It is not toxic white masculinity. Here, take a look for yourself.

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If you go back to 1982, yes, there are more whites who committed the shootings by a margin of 3 to 1 with blacks. However, we are talking about the current year and seems the wrong group is being looked at.


Furthermore, the call for gun bans. Did you know that a handgun was 3 times more likely to be used than a AR style weapon in a mass shooting? So the 'scary' weapons are not even the worst and that is what they are attempting to ban.

The issue today is gang violence not a nice rise of the KKK.

Educate and arm yourself people.


But is the difference here gang related gun crimes are against other gangs mostly. Do members of gangs randomly go around killing innocent people?

Yes, gang related crime has always been a problem, but no one can escape the fact that these mass shootings (kill as many people as you can) is a huge problem.

I am not going to get into this white supremacist thing, but there is a huge problem with certain people going out there and killing as many people as they can, as these mass shootings seem to be happening a lot.

I just cannot see how putting this up against gang crime makes any sense.



posted on Aug, 11 2019 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
a reply to: UpForGrabs

Really?
Drive by's are not carried out to kill 'just anyone' and the intentions are not to kill as many random people as possible.
There is usually a clear target, or targets and are usually done over turf, to damage rival gangs, or to initiate a robbery.

Can you see the difference between that and Sandy Hook? Aurora?
It's a big one.
They should not be in the same category, just because there are more than 4 shot.
What these statistics are seemingly trying to do, is make it seem like it's not just white people who commit mass murder.
They don't even need to, though. Sure most have been white, but just off the top of my head I can name the DC Snipers and the Fort Hood Shooter. That's (3) right there, without trying.
Truth is, mass murderers have always been typically white. They just do it all in one foul swoop now, instead of serial killing, like they did in the past.

PS, done for the day with ATS. I don't use it at home and I'm leaving work.
I will respond tomorrow though, if needed.



Tell that to the media who are pushing the narrative "There have been more Mass Shootings in the U.S. this year than there have been days of the year."

www.cbsnews.com...


Under the definition of "Mass Shootings" by the Gun Violence Archive, there have been 255 mass shootings in the U.S. in 2019.

www.gunviolencearchive.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

Granted I agree that Dayton, El Paso, and Sandy Hook are different than a drive-by.

However, the people who pushed that news media story about the "more mass shootings than days" in an attempt to artificially sensationalize the mass shooting narrative (as if mass shootings need to be artificially sensationalized) don't seem to understand that.


edit on 2019/8/11 by Box of Rain because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 11 2019 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
Dont know why you bring this up...any dip# knows the stats. Peeps just wanna politicize crap. Aint nobody on this site reasly cares abojt the peeps...they just wanna score one for the team.
Dude, that was some fundamental funny way to say something. +1 for making me laugh a little today buddy man.



posted on Aug, 11 2019 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

Wrong. In a gang shooting if there are 7 injured there is one or two gangbangers hurt. It is all about collateral damage. Fear..in terror...

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posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Jay-morris

Wrong. In a gang shooting if there are 7 injured there is one or two gangbangers hurt. It is all about collateral damage. Fear..in terror...


But , the true nature is gang violence. If people get in the way, does not mean they went out to mill innocent people.

This mass shooting are different, because most of the time, they ant go take out as many people as possible. Does not matter if they are man, woman or child. So there is a huge difference.



posted on Aug, 12 2019 @ 07:13 AM
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a reply to: Box of Rain

Correct.
The media likes to play these types of games to push a narrative.
I feel like it hinders progress to a find solution to either problems, if we consider both situations to be the same.



posted on Aug, 13 2019 @ 06:42 AM
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But...but...the media told me that young white males are responsible for all the mass shootings, that they are the ones we have to "fear".

That can't be right...



posted on Aug, 13 2019 @ 06:45 AM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Jay-morris

Wrong. In a gang shooting if there are 7 injured there is one or two gangbangers hurt. It is all about collateral damage. Fear..in terror...


But , the true nature is gang violence. If people get in the way, does not mean they went out to mill innocent people.

This mass shooting are different, because most of the time, they ant go take out as many people as possible. Does not matter if they are man, woman or child. So there is a huge difference.


Does that matter?

The issue here is the stats on mass shootings.

Now you're microanalysing the issue and saying we should discriminate between indiscriminate mass shootings (targeting innocents for whatever reason) versus specialised mass shootings (deliberate gang shootings which have specific targets and are not specifically targeting innocents)?

So we should be specific?

Young white males are largely responsible for indiscriminate mass shootings targeting innocents, whilst young black males are largely responsible for mass gang-related shootings which don't specifically target innocents?



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