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2019 Mass Shooter Statistics Indicate more than half of shooters as Black..that can't be right?

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posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 01:59 PM
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The media and almost all DNC candidates as well as elected officials have stated that White Supremacy and Mass shootings caused by them are the largest threat to the United States.




He points out that while blanket media attention was focused on the shootings in El Paso and Dayton, 60 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend while Baltimore just reached its 200th murder victim of the year. Greenfield then quotes Rep. Ilhan Omar, CNN’s Don Lemon and Newsweek, who have all claimed that white people are the biggest mass shooter threat and have carried out more mass shootings than any other group. But that doesn’t appear to be the case for 2019.


Very Dangerous rhetoric but blaming the current POTUS for his statements. Look at the true statistics.

2019 so far has had 72 mass shootings. A mass shooting is described as one who has 4 or more victims.

51% were Black
29% were White
11% Latino
3 Asians
2 American Indians
1 Arab

it is not the NRA. It is not toxic white masculinity. Here, take a look for yourself.

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If you go back to 1982, yes, there are more whites who committed the shootings by a margin of 3 to 1 with blacks. However, we are talking about the current year and seems the wrong group is being looked at.


Furthermore, the call for gun bans. Did you know that a handgun was 3 times more likely to be used than a AR style weapon in a mass shooting? So the 'scary' weapons are not even the worst and that is what they are attempting to ban.

The issue today is gang violence not a nice rise of the KKK.

Educate and arm yourself people.




posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:02 PM
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Dont know why you bring this up...any dip# knows the stats. Peeps just wanna politicize crap. Aint nobody on this site reasly cares abojt the peeps...they just wanna score one for the team.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:04 PM
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Locked and loaded. 🔫💣🧨



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

Yeah, black people are quite aware of this reality. Media is not fooling anyone. If they were, Trump would get zero black voters. He got more than Romney and McCain. He will get more this run.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

I bring it up so that some will actually know because many in these forums do not. There is a big problem in the US in many inner cities that is not being addressed but the schmucks who are elected are turning a blind eye and blaming it on toxic white adults.

It is sad. Gang violence is out of control but damn sure know if Trump sent in the National Guard he would be branded a racist by the same people saying it is not a problem.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Mass shooter means that 4 or more people are shot.
There is a big difference between a driveby and what we saw in Dayton/El Paso, ect.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

What is the difference?



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
Furthermore, the call for gun bans. Did you know that a handgun was 3 times more likely to be used than a AR style weapon in a mass shooting? So the 'scary' weapons are not even the worst and that is what they are attempting to ban.


Don't flex too aggressively with that one. A lot of us still remember the 90s and the Brady Bill trying to portray handguns as the Devil and the left bending over backwards to try to first ban them, then settling on restrictions like the 5 day waiting period. They may be focusing on semi automatic long guns right now, but once they get their way in that avenue, they'll turn right back on handguns and try to bend law abiding Americans over a barrel there, too.


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posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
a reply to: matafuchs

Mass shooter means that 4 or more people are shot.
There is a big difference between a driveby and what we saw in Dayton/El Paso, ect.


Yeah there is, one almost always results in the killer being shot by police or arrested on scene and the other usually leads to no arrests and gives the cowardly little thug a chance to kill more people the next night he and his cliq feel disrespected.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:40 PM
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The "per capita" is even worse 😃



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: UpForGrabs

Really?
Drive by's are not carried out to kill 'just anyone' and the intentions are not to kill as many random people as possible.
There is usually a clear target, or targets and are usually done over turf, to damage rival gangs, or to initiate a robbery.

Can you see the difference between that and Sandy Hook? Aurora?
It's a big one.
They should not be in the same category, just because there are more than 4 shot.
What these statistics are seemingly trying to do, is make it seem like it's not just white people who commit mass murder.
They don't even need to, though. Sure most have been white, but just off the top of my head I can name the DC Snipers and the Fort Hood Shooter. That's (3) right there, without trying.
Truth is, mass murderers have always been typically white. They just do it all in one foul swoop now, instead of serial killing, like they did in the past.

PS, done for the day with ATS. I don't use it at home and I'm leaving work.
I will respond tomorrow though, if needed.




posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
a reply to: matafuchs

Mass shooter means that 4 or more people are shot.
There is a big difference between a driveby and what we saw in Dayton/El Paso, ect.


One shooter one gun 😎

the double-counting informal fallacy



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

Really? Explain because they all use bullets and in all cases people are shot and dead. You sound like the skewed left wing statistics that take 'gang violence' out of mass shooting statistics.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

I know the slope. Scary to say the least...



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

You have it the opposite. They take out 'gang violence' so it does not look like that much of an issue.

Also, gang initiation many times is a random kill. To show they are not afraid and what they can do. The list of those who were not the intended targets is also usually larger than the target themselves.

You make it sound like drive bys are something we should just live with.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:56 PM
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A mass shooting is a murder of four or more people. Considering the high level of crime in poor neighborhoods and presence of gangs, I'd say that or a slaying of a family of four probably happens a lot.

The mass shootings that white people commit are more terrorist in nature and usually are far more than four people, that's why we hear about them on the news.

But statistically, they get grouped into the same category of mass shootings.



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posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o


What these statistics are seemingly trying to do, is make it seem like it's not just white people who commit mass murder.

perhaps because it is not?
wow



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
a reply to: matafuchs

Mass shooter means that 4 or more people are shot.
There is a big difference between a driveby and what we saw in Dayton/El Paso, ect.


There is a big difference. It's the sheer volume of those 4 incidents in Chicago and Baltimore which happens month after month, year after year. In Baltimore alone, it's 300 plus homicides a year. That is one city. Now compare that to these larger mass shooting incidents. The volume of death is like comparing a Model T to a Maserati. The Maserati is the gang violence in black neighborhoods.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: Duderino
A mass shooting is a murder of four or more people. Considering the high level of crime in poor neighborhoods and presence of gangs, I'd say that or a slaying of a family of four probably happens a lot.

The mass shootings that white people commit are more terrorist in nature and usually are far more than four people, that's why we hear about them on the news.

But statistically, they get grouped into the same category of mass shootings.




So deaths are classified in your brain depending on who killed the people, not who was killed?
Weird flex, but OK.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

If we stop the mass assault style shootings once and for all that will make the biggest impact on gun violence.

It's very difficult to comprehend people actually believe the above statement with the internet today. All the facts are seconds away. The biggest impact on gun violence is addressing the problem in inner cities. Hell, if that was under control the number of gun related death would be next to nothing.



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