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The greatest fault of the political Left

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posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

It's funny, if you want to see redemption in action, go on a weekend drunk, post a bunch of hateful things here, just enough not to get banned, then come back Monday morning and apologize. members here are almost always ready to forgive as they mostly understand the crime all too well.

If only the world was like ATS. Nobody get's killed here, just hit with all caps from time to time, and most can recover from that onslaught.

Most.




posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
Is this another "christian" leading by example?

Lol christians are funny people.


Everyone’s kinda funny, you kinda funny too.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Asktheanimals

It's funny, if you want to see redemption in action, go on a weekend drunk, post a bunch of hateful things here, just enough not to get banned, then come back Monday morning and apologize. members here are almost always ready to forgive as they mostly understand the crime all too well.

If only the world was like ATS. Nobody get's killed here, just hit with all caps from time to time, and most can recover from that onslaught.

Most.

LOL, I’ve resembled that remark a time or two.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: JAY1980

You didn't get the point of my post then.

When someone or a group of people call for redemption upon another person or group they are exhibiting their bigotry upon those people. Yes the word bigot is best to describe those who are intolerant of other peoples views and beliefs, hence why they are calling for those who give up such I guess, sinister evils in the eyes of those calling for redemption to come to the other side and redemption will be awarded.

The problem is redemption in the philosophy of political affiliations isn't found within' conservatism, nor liberalism. It's found when a society can coexist together and pursue consistent synthesis of ideas to build upon, this is what western society has built itself as, and the mechanism to do so is liberal democracy, capitalism, and progressive ideas.
Adam Smith in his pursuit to understand the invisible hand of capitalism to weave it into the every fabric of a working society, believed it was a strong economy which shows a working healthy society, even on the other side of the spectrum Karl Marx as well attempted to find the silver lining in capitalism and noted that a strong economy is what builds a strong society. Two very different views on the same subject.
So where lies redemption for those who follow a strong economy? Well let Mr Smith himself explain:


Every man, as long as he does not violate the laws of justice, is left perfectly free to pursue his own interest his own way, and to bring both his industry and capital into competition with those of any other man


In a modern society laws and justice are redemption. Not creating social ultimatums for those you disagree with.



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posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: mtnshredder

whats funny is when you come back and apologize to those you were a pinhead to, you usually gain some respect otherwise not offered, due to you being able to swallow some pride and admit mistakes. I know it happend to me before.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

I think you hit the nail on the head. It does not matter in their book if you are found innocent of something, if they believe you are guilty, they will keep trying to punish you. In their book, if you are not with them, you are against them. If you switch to their side and follow their lead, then they forgive you and protect you. But if you do mess up and get caught,they also throw you under the bus, there is no protection for people who is not a good enough deceiver to fool everyone.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 11:38 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

The media/attack squad are relentless and they wouldn't allow you to change your beliefs if you wanted to; or at least would never acknowledge such.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 11:39 PM
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To anyone who thinks I'm wiriting about them personally ask yourself these 2 questions:
Do you call anyone Nazi?
Do you have a * list full of people you believe should be fired, silenced or intimidated?


If the answer is no I wasn't addressing you



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

As additional acts of evil/hate are perpetrated by the LEFT, most Americans will understand that their radical elements are Satanically Possessed.

A few of us see it, but as time passes, more and more Americans will realize that the "human" element is evaporating from the souls of radical Leftists.
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posted on Aug, 9 2019 @ 12:43 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Asktheanimals

As additional acts of evil/hate are perpetrated by the LEFT, most Americans will understand that their radical elements are Satanically Possessed.

A few of us see it, but as time passes, more and more Americans will realize that the "human" element is evaporating from the souls of radical Leftists.


Indeed, and the evidence for it is that there have been no apologies from the left when proven wrong, not even a smidgen of an attempt to reconcile their acts. No remorse, no guilt, and no stoppage. Just a continuation of the same lies and the bearing of false witness against the enemy they have made inside their hearts. With every failure they start a fresh new evil.

Those are the same traits of real dangerous sociopaths and they are in great positions of power and influence. The evil is increasing. Much worse than anything I have seen before.

Scary times.



posted on Aug, 9 2019 @ 06:05 AM
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Then why direct the thread at the left, leftists, political left etc instead of the minority of individuals who are guilty of the behaviours you mention. Probably lost in translation due to being on the internet and not face to face convo but it comes across as a general smear IMO, just as bad as calling someone Nazi if they hold a vaguely right wing belief or racist if they don't drink black coffee.



originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Not a single person on the left that I know has what you perceive to their norm.
Nice try but maybe another day.
I will say that is what the MSM feeds the viewers daily but who even watches that crap anymore?



Same, I'm a UK lefty. Never done any of what the OP states myself or know of anyone that does - no one wants open borders over here, national insurance/social safety nets are neither left or right issues (left see it as socialism, right se it as patriotism and nationalism, boost to the economy and national security.. OP is describing obnoxious arseholes, they come in all reeds, colours and political beliefs.

Never heard of any hate list or whatnot - even at genuine hardline nazi counter protests in the UK (against C18, BNP, NF) I always had a pint and a chat with their supporters to discuss differences of opinion in a civil manner - it's a free country, if we didn't come to a mutual consensus/understanding we just shook hands and agreed to disagree.


I have been called a lefty 3 times today for caring about the budget deficit, protectionist tariff strategy, and executive branch over reach so it seems like it's just tribalism in Americans


Sadly tribalism isn't just a US left/right thing - My photo, address, number etc... have been on the UK murder list Redwatch for a number of years (for going to a caribean carnival), it's a hitlist of anyone they claim to be leftwing to be targeted by nailbombs, Molotov cocktails, kidnappings, beatings, beheadings etc... had a few mates bundled into car boots and 'taken for a ride to the woods' for playing music at such gigs.

Police came around to warn me there was a credible death threat for me but it amounted to nothing in the end - the new Neo-Nazi terror group National Action are a different story altogether - many people under police protection for exposing the leader as a pedophile and foiling various terror plots.


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