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Mental Illness ....why?

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posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 07:40 AM
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Mental illness is being blamed for mass shootings

I agree that the killers are crazy AF but the mental illness angle I just don’t buy

Why are more people mentally ill now then in the pass? Is it parenting? Are snowflakes raising bigger snowflakes that get triggered at everything and that causes mental breakdowns? If you watched any of the democratic socialist meetings, you know what I mean.

Is social media making people hyper crazy and depressed?

The quality of the food people eat?

Big pharma buying off the government to make sure more and more kids ‘need’ medicines?

Are other countries kids going as crazy as Americans??

Saying mental illness is a cop out, but what’s the driving force, IDK IDK




posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Bigger population is a factor too i believe. I think big pharma, food, isolation, and maybe bad parenting. I don't think being democrat or Republican has anything to do with mentally ill violence.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 07:52 AM
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It's pure political opportunism.

People suffer from depression, anxiety, bipolar, PTSD, etc. at similar rates throughout the world, yet we are the only country with a chronic (and growing) spree-shooter problem?

It doesn't pass the smell test, but then again, none of the easy answers do. The truth is this is a problem of multiple vectors with dozens of contributing "causes" and humans are terrible at untangling those. "Mental illness" is a relatively easy way to sound like you are "doing something" when you have no idea what you should say or do and are hoping it all blows over before you have to do anything "hard."



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 07:55 AM
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Let me just say this: The criminals where I live have a big racket in claiming mental illness as an excuse for their crimes. One politically connected family has two women both multiple convictions for family violence and what? Mental illness defense. The son shot a guy, robbed a place, carjacked & kidnapped another guy, wenton a high speed chase... And did no time other than mandatory 30 day psych observation/evaluation.

DSM codes. The official manual of mental maladies has quadrupled in size of more since the time I was a student. It's a mental illness to be concerned about the food (organic) you eat, you weight, whether or not.... Bottom line is more slightly abnormal temporary behavior is being classified and treated as mental illness.

ganjoa



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Uncontrollable anger that turns to hate then to murder.

Time have changed for the worse and its only going to get worse.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

People had mental illness before guns were invented.

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posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

It's all of it.

Its simple.

We evolved for over 70k years with the modern imagination (as far as we know certainly could be longer) and prior to that we evolved for millions of years in nature.

100 years ago we rapidly changed the environmental conditions our bodies evolved to adapt to.

BIOLOGICAL Evolution does not happen fast and can not keep up with human cultural evolution at the pace we are changing the environment we survive in (which in now mostly computer screens)

Americans spend only an average of 37 minutes a day with their families, young people have been studied to have half the friends of past generations and man have zero...

Lonely isolation is already know to be destructive. Anyone in the service who had field survival courses knows this. They tell you specifically your mental state is the most important part of you get lost in the woods....

If you get lost in the woods with others your chances of survival go up from moral alone (among other cooperative things)

Mental illness is not really a correct term since we box people into society we created from culture...(remember nature made us have different traits for survival, culture made some them unnecessary or destructive)..

Suicide rates and disease of despair are all time highs.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:26 AM
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At some point in the past, probably a couple of decades back, I read or watched something where a speaker explained something that I do recall vividly, even if I can't remember any of the surrounding details.

The speaker said "Have you ever wondered why it is that if you see a snake or even a small spider you have an immediate and extreme fear reaction to it but that you can sit at an intersection and watch cars whizz by all day long without any primal reaction at all... Even though the car is exponentially more likely to be the cause of your death than either the spider or the snake? It's because we've outpaced evolution. We had hundreds of thousands of years to develop a natural fear to spiders and snakes but cars have only been around for a few decades. If we don't end up going extinct and if cars remain a staple in our lives, our descendants may one day start to be born with that same inherent reaction to Honda's that we have to rattlesnakes."

That's obviously paraphrased from memory but it's close.

The relevance is this: We currently live in a world where nearly every single thing that we should have genuine fear about is new. As a species we haven't had time to adjust to any of it. Guns, bombs, global wars, nukes... Even most diseases in the sense that we're one of the first generations that can name them, understand them to a great degree, recognize them and justifiably worry about them en masse. Not so many generations back our forefathers were worried about the dropsy and the vapors and the plague - and that about covered it. We worry about heart plaque, strokes, cancer, etc. Gramps could eat his cheeseburger in blissful ignorance of the fact that it was killing him. We subconsciously know as much with every bite.

All this condensed stress that we're biologically unprepared to digest... And just for kicks, we have access to electronic media that does NOTHING other than remind us of all of these new fangled fears 24/7/365. And they often do so with a specific agenda in mind... To cause a specific reaction... To make you buy this thing or that thing... To make you vote for this person or that person... To make you fear specific things or specific people.

An excess of information + new stressors that we are not biologically adapted to + manipulative social practices = what we see.

My .02.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: Hefficide

Throw in a terrible work life balance and no family time in America and the stress from us huge.

While we do have individual rights humans evolved in groups. Taking that away and isolating people created existential crisis.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:41 AM
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Its basically an excuse.

blame mental illness and video games because we don't want to talk about the possibility that the politics of divisions and free access to guns might have more to do with shootings.

Some people who commit these crimes are mentally ill but most of the time they're just a bad man with a gun, pretending that its a mental health issue is a bit of a distraction from the real issue, a lack of gun control.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
People had mental illness before guns were invented.

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They did. But back in the early part of our country's history until the 1960's or so we institutionalized them and/or jiggered their brains with a needle.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Hefficide

What?
None of you have a near heart attack when you see a car?

So you're saying it's just me?



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:48 AM
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sane people usually don't kill others for no reason.

There are many causes for this issue, and until it's discussed fully, it's largely a joke. Those with an agenda will push their agenda, and those who oppose the agenda with screech. Rinse, repeat.

Saying mental illness doesn't play a part seems like a crazy thing to say at this point.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

And the angry sociopaths who might have done spree shootings had an outlet. They jiggered the brains of helpless people (and far worse) behind closed doors with little or no public oversite.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
And the angry sociopaths who might have done spree shootings had an outlet. They jiggered the brains of helpless people (and far worse) behind closed doors with little or no public oversite.


That's a victimless crime, like punching someone in the dark.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: odzeandennz
People had mental illness before guns were invented.

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They did. But back in the early part of our country's history until the 1960's or so we institutionalized them and/or jiggered their brains with a needle.


ahhh I remember my first lobotomy....don't remember much after that though.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Think about all the chemicals in the water, that we splice into our vegetables, pump into our meat, or the drugs we give to our kids so they are more well behaved.

With all of that is it really so hard to think we are becoming more unbalanced.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Touche.

dark lols



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

I think "mental illness" has become a catchall phrase for several issues. Genuine mental "illness" is definitely an issue for some. For others, it's mental impairment -- either genetic or environmental factors that impair mental and cognitive functioning; or mental (and/or emotional) immaturity -- a failure of parents, teachers, and other authority figures to properly teach and prepare kids for handling challenges; and/or simply mental gymnastics (rationalization) to prop up the ego...

And there is no doubt that our tainted and inferior foods (from tainted and inferior soil, water and air) are contributing to impaired mental/emotional functioning.

And does anyone doubt that Big Pharma isn't quite happy to provide a pill to "fix" all of us? Is there any doubt that Big Pharma wouldn't just lovelovelove having all of us dependent on their poison pills?

Let's not leave private prisons out of it either. Does anyone doubt that those private prisons aren't loveloveloving profiting by "free" labor and government (read: taxpayer) dollars? Does anyone doubt that those private prisons wouldn't lovelovelove to fill up their prisons any way possible?

In the final analysis, however, the absolute greatest obstacle to finding solutions is the outright refusal (and/or inability) of so many to recognize the distinctions, root causes, and solutions -- especially those elected and hired to do exactly that. It's just so much easier (and gratifying to the ego) to blame anyone and everyone else.



posted on Aug, 8 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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So there's no such thing as the 'Insanity Defense' for mass murder?

Someone should've told Ed Gein & Charlie Manson.




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