White Complacency

Seeing gobs of headlines and talking pundits proclaiming that white supremacy is a cancer in the US and must be dealt with head on blah blah blah.

What I don't see are white supremacy organizations going on the warpath, defending their hill so to speak. Some of that is from censorship on the internet but they could still organize rallies if they wanted. It is still legal to be a white supremacist and organize public rallies. Hard to believe but, they could do if they wanted.

They are however not doing this at all. It's almost like they are getting complacent in their supremacy rhetoric. Before they had the white uniforms, cross burning stuff going on. Even murdering people. What happened to them? It would seem they are getting weaker but the media makes is saying, oh no way, they are still super strong. Stronger than ever in fact.

I'm sorry but I just don't see it. They are very weak. Constantly being bashed and no effort to stand up for their existence, no real clashes. It's like they got complacent at this point. Maybe the media eventually calls it the White Complacency movement because they don't fight back at all anymore, thinking they can just skate by on their heydays.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets we are waiting for the they bring a knife moment.

their numbers are receding, and normal people don't buy into the racist bigotry. But the MSM needs an enemy. Trump supporters will do for now, but it's kind of hard to just be angry at them for voting differently than others. So the white supremacy thing had to be enacted. And here we are today.

I think this is the death cry of the resistance. Hopefully, the death will be swift and merciful.

It's almost as if it is not as much a scourge today as the media and political people pandering for votes proclaims.

Funny that....ever wonder why?

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

And it never occurred to you that it might be overblown? They aren't "defending their hill" because they hardly exist. I know the new narrative is that half the country are white supremacists, but come on. You believe that?

Complacency? More like absurdity.

originally posted by: network dude
their numbers are receding, and normal people don't buy into the racist bigotry. But the MSM needs an enemy. Trump supporters will do for now, but it's kind of hard to just be angry at them for voting differently than others. So the white supremacy thing had to be enacted. And here we are today.

I think this is the death cry of the resistance. Hopefully, the death will be swift and merciful.

I am with you, but Im going to have a hard time with the being merciful part.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Oddly enough the guy trump put in as FBI director said they are by far the largest domestic terrorist and kill the most people since 911.

Now we classify things in a messed up way but their numbers are not declining unfortunately...their public support is and that has always been why they have gotten agitated.

The media however has been the largest purveyor of race baiting and racial tension of any group out there. MSNBC FoX all of them.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

It's almost like none of this has a goddamn thing to do with "white supremecists" and the entire narrative is manufactured BS to distract from the actual culprits, those being militant socialists, isn't it?

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Seeing gobs of headlines and talking pundits proclaiming that white supremacy is a cancer in the US and must be dealt with head on blah blah blah.

What I don't see are white supremacy organizations going on the warpath, defending their hill so to speak.

Ya know what I see? A bunch of foot soldiers in the divide-and-conquer campaign making crap up to get people all worked up about nothing, fighting and hating and pointing fingers at each other, while the critters do as they will, laughing all the way to the bank!

Ya know what else I see? It's works... every freaking time.

Hence this OP.

Ya know what I don't see? Folks pointing out that as long as no one else has any power over anyone else, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks... it doesn't matter what anyone else believes... it doesn't matter who anyone likes or doesn't like... AS LONG AS THEY HAVE NO POWER OVER ANYONE ELSE!!!

Ya know what else I don't see? Folks pointing out exactly how our founding fathers created a government that would ensure that no one would have that kind of power over anyone else... pointing out how to use the foundational principles and Constitutional rights and laws to make sure no one can have that kind of power over anyone else... pointing out how we can use and strengthen existing laws to make sure no one has any power over anyone else.

The criminally corrupt thank you for a job well done.

a reply to: Boadicea

I see a society of lonely people struggling to adapt to technological change moving at light speed and joining tribes to fill up their loneliness.

I hear the chants "no KKK" at times but their numbers are very small. Something like 5K actual members I believe. That's not even enough people to fill the nose bleed seats at an NFL stadium out of a country of over 300 million. Even if it was 20K still not enough.

It's ridiculous to think that that many people could really impact 100's of millions on any level worth caring about. The mass shootings, as horrific as that black church was and the WalMart tragedy, there are thousands and thousands of black churches and Walmarts. We are talking about a fraction of a fraction of 1%. I'm not demeaning the lives lost just stating it is a very rare event. It's even less than the rarity of a plane crash and probably even rarer than being struck by lightening. It's a real tragedy no doubt but the uncommoness of it is totally ignored.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Careful, you might get the Neil Degrass Tyson treatment for talk like that.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Careful, you might get the Neil Degrass Tyson treatment for talk like that.

Oh, I'm sure I will. Still doesn't change the fact that despite our ability to own guns, our acceptance of free speech (to include hate groups) we are actually doing better than ever as a country and society. It's quite amazing. Despite the ability to own killing machines and despite that we can legally hate whoever we want in the open, the level of violence is at an all time low. Even Obama admitted this in a public forum that gun violence is way way down when talking to the sniper guy Kyle's wife.

The real thick gun violence though is in inner cities which is majority (unfortunately) black people killing black people. It's a sad truth that can't be honestly discussed in any public forum. I wish that was not reality but it is the cold hard truth. White supremacy is not the real problem. Not by a long shot. It's senseless black on black violence in poor neighborhoods. Nobody will go near it for some reason.

What happened to them?

Oh, they're around.

They have largely hidden themselves because of the public backlash to their overt white supremacy and racism, by taking a different approach: blending into the ranks of society and infiltrating that way, covertly.

But now they are once again coming out of the woodwork, in large part because their message is echoed on a nation platform—by a certain individual in power and by a certain network.

Some do still organize and hold rallies (see Charlottesville, and other smaller ones (see Dayton)), but it became more rare because of their unpopularity.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Unfortunately I was born and raised in a town that for many decades was a KKK stronghold- I'm talking their own offices on Main Street, marching in parades, burning crosses just south of town every Friday night. This was still going on when my kids were young. In the neighborhood I grew up in the Imperial Wizard and Grand Dragon both lived less than a block up the street- their houses and families were the trashiest of the lowest trash even in those days. Thank goodness times changed, people changed and their hatefulness was pushed further and further out of town until they were shamed and shunned and their membership dwindled with the old holdouts finally all dying off. Arising in their place in more recent years was the Aryan Brotherhood but the people forced them out and they keep their crap usually far north of town and are more concerned with stealing, murdering and crystal meth than racism nowadays. They could care less about politics and are nothing but a gang of punk# thugs who are not welcome anywhere. I doubt they even watch the news.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Boadicea

I see a society of lonely people struggling to adapt to technological change moving at light speed and joining tribes to fill up their loneliness.

That is no doubt true for some... perhaps many people. I would say, however, that it is more like people finding ways to use technology to fill the void of a world where people are petty and shallow at best, disposable and expendable at worst. Starting with their own family.

But throughout history, people have united and joined forces with others for many reasons, some good and some bad and some neutral. That's up to each one of us and what is in our own hearts. It can be a strength and a weakness and a weapon and a hiding place. It is what we make of it. We have to own what we choose to do... and why we do it.

No excuses. Only when we know better can we do better.

a reply to: Boadicea

I mean for really sad people who are isolated or awkward they get a new facade or find people who care but are bad...

Suicide rates travel right along with the extreme mass violence presentations.

originally posted by: Liquesence
But now they are once again coming out of the woodwork, in large part because their message is echoed on a nation platform—by a certain individual in power and by a certain network. .

He's out of office now and that network has been on a downward slide since Zucker took over, so...

originally posted by: Liquesence

What happened to them?

Oh, they're around.

They have largely hidden themselves because of the public backlash to their overt white supremacy and racism, by taking a different approach: blending into the ranks of society and infiltrating that way, covertly.

But now they are once again coming out of the woodwork, in large part because their message is echoed on a nation platform—by a certain individual in power and by a certain network.

Some do still organize and hold rallies (see Charlottesville, and other smaller ones (see Dayton)), but it became more rare because of their unpopularity.

And they are still so far down the chain of concern below the daily violence in the inner cities (like Chicago and Baltimore) that their influence pales in comparison. Yet, we do not see those inner city violent thugs called out in the MSM, or calls for them to be confronted and driven out do we?

Funny that....ever wonder why?

Its simple, the white supremacists you see now are the ones calling others "racist".