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Originally posted by Seekerof
as posted by Kidfinger
Trying to put some words in my mouth seekerof?
Asuming? I noticed you made a reference to something your mother once told you. Question: did she ever tell you about assuming on someone?
No, Kidfinger, no words in your mouth. Simply an objective comment.
Dude, I have had a number of Ethics classes in college, k? As such, what you mention is a known factoid that applies to all of us individually, world wide.
Now if that is the case, what the hell is the UN got to do with ethical and morality issues of abortion? Now if the UN has the right to make declarations on abortion issues, then how does that fit into what you are implying above?
No pushing by the US. It was rejected and was contrary to what the rest of the UN body thought.
On the issue of the US pushing its agenda or opinion on the rest of the world, please look no further than your beloved UN, k? It is they who are doing the pushing and have been on this issue.
Abortion is the new Holocaust, courtesy of the blessings of the UN.
Personally, its past my bedtime, but please, don't let your jaybird mouth outrun your jaybird behind, k?
Originally posted by namehere
how is anyone being bullied? stating reasons for a policy is bullying? or submitting an idea to the UN is bullying too? with this logic, anything any country does is bullying, i mean comeon stop twisting things to make the US the bad guy just because you dont agree with a policy.
Originally posted by drfunk
This self proclaimed leadership mentality means that the US does not see itself as an equal but as an entity that is superior and above the rest.
Originally posted by vor78
It appears to me as if the US is simply stating its position on the matter. If anything, its sounds like the rest of the world is trying to ram its pro-choice agenda down the US's throat than the other way around.
Originally posted by Kidfinger
Originally posted by vor78
It appears to me as if the US is simply stating its position on the matter. If anything, its sounds like the rest of the world is trying to ram its pro-choice agenda down the US's throat than the other way around.
You should reread the article. The Bush administration is attempting to get the UN to basically 'sanction' thier ethics and lobby for them in the rest of the world. The UN hold a lot of power of alot of countries. There are countries that wouldnt survive without the UN. These countries are forced to accept UN policy, or have UN support withdrawn from them. Fortunatly, the UN was not listening to the BUsh administration.
Originally posted by vor78
I'm not saying that the US is necessarily correct on the subject, but they do have every right to have their voice heard and to have a differing opinion.
Originally posted by Kidfinger
Originally posted by vor78
I'm not saying that the US is necessarily correct on the subject, but they do have every right to have their voice heard and to have a differing opinion.
The US has no right to tell other countries how to act ethically or morally. It is NON of our business how any other country acts. Hell, we cant even get our own lives straightend out here. Who are we to push our values on the world?
[edit on 3/5/05 by Kidfinger]
The US has no right to tell other countries how to act ethically or morally. It is NON of our business how any other country acts. Hell, we cant even get our own lives straightend out here. Who are we to push our values on the world?
Originally posted by Skibum
I love this line of thinking. Just as it is absolutely no other countries business what the U.S. does.
U.S. decides to not go with the Kyoto treaty- Oh well nunya darn business now is it. Keep your opinion to yourself.
U.S. invades Iraq- Get over it, its nunya business.
Don't like something the U.S. does. too freakin bad- cause its nunya business.
Originally posted by Skibum
The US has no right to tell other countries how to act ethically or morally. It is NON of our business how any other country acts. Hell, we cant even get our own lives straightend out here. Who are we to push our values on the world?
I love this line of thinking. Just as it is absolutely no other countries business what the U.S. does.
U.S. decides to not go with the Kyoto treaty- Oh well nunya darn business now is it. Keep your opinion to yourself.
U.S. invades Iraq- Get over it, its nunya business.
Don't like something the U.S. does. too freakin bad- cause its nunya business.
BTW, your sarcasm is becoming quite the norm for Bush supproters. Do you think you could try and think for yourself?
Originally posted by Skibum
Funny you should say that, I'm not a Bush supporter.
I just find it odd that if we voice an opinion, it is construed as cramming our values and ethics down someones throat. It is not, it is simply voicing ones opinion. Unless you fall into the category of people that believe an opinion may only be voiced if it does not offend anyone, or that the only valid opinion comes from someone who isn't from the U.S.
Didn't like my previous examples.
Here are some others.
Don't like how much the U.S. donated to Tsunami relief, nunya business.
Think the U.S. doesn't do enough to end world hunger or AIDS. again nunya business.
Don't like the fact that the U.S. executes criminals. You get the point.
The list goes on and on. Everyone else in the world seems to have an opinion on how the U.S. should run its own country, perhaps they should mind their own business.
Originally posted by Kidfinger
Originally posted by Skibum
Funny you should say that, I'm not a Bush supporter.
I apologise for the remark. IT was uncalled for. You just spoke the same words I have heard from so many Bush supporters here that it just became instinct to think that is what you are. Sorry.
I just find it odd that if we voice an opinion, it is construed as cramming our values and ethics down someones throat. It is not, it is simply voicing ones opinion. Unless you fall into the category of people that believe an opinion may only be voiced if it does not offend anyone, or that the only valid opinion comes from someone who isn't from the U.S.
Voicing an opinion is one thing, but the administration is attempting to make the world behave as Bush feels is right. That constitutes as a lot more than just an opinion. Why is it OK for us to tell everyone how they should act when we cant agree on how we should all act in the first place?
Didn't like my previous examples.
Here are some others.
Don't like how much the U.S. donated to Tsunami relief, nunya business.
Think the U.S. doesn't do enough to end world hunger or AIDS. again nunya business.
Don't like the fact that the U.S. executes criminals. You get the point.
The list goes on and on. Everyone else in the world seems to have an opinion on how the U.S. should run its own country, perhaps they should mind their own business.
Actually this thread is not about that. This thread is about the US attempting to push its ethic agenda on the world through the UN. Please stay on topic.