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Very little detail you provided on exactly what they are talking about.
originally posted by: TGunner
This is just something i'm interested in.
ah the video is these two dudes talking -- Dr. Patrick Michaels, director of the Center for the Study of Science at the Cato Institute, provides insight into the debate over climate change and the political games played to create policy.
There are more than 32 models (far more when various emission scenarios are considered) and they are, in general, holding their own. And 2019 is shaping up to be another warm one.
Essentially Michaels says of the 32 climate models, 31 of them have made wrong predictions and the Russian model is the only one that seems to make accurate predictions, which have been for less warming than predicted by the other models.
I agree about Michaels, since he has obvious bias from his oil and coal industry funding, but I think the skepticalscience link is biased in the opposite direction so I don't rely on all the claims at that site either.
originally posted by: Phage
I don't think Michaels can be relied upon as an accurate source of information.
In 2018, Christy and economist Ross McKitrick set out to test the accuracy of climate models. They examined model projections in the atmosphere between 30,000 and 40,000 feet, in the tropics from 20°N to 20°S. The atmosphere warms fastest in that portion of the atmosphere in almost all models used by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)...
In 102 model runs, the average warming in the “hot spot” portion of the tropical atmosphere is 0.44°C per decade, or 2°C during 1979-2017. “However, the real-world warming is much lower; around one third of the model average,” Christy reports.
Christy sums up the test results:
You can also easily see the difference in warming rates: the models are warming too fast. The exception is the Russian model, which has much lower sensitivity to carbon dioxide, and therefore gives projections for the end of the century that are far from alarming. The rest of them are already falsified, and their predictions for 2100 can’t be trusted.
Everything you have been told about "Climate Change" and man-made "Global Warning" has been a deliberate LIE, perpetrated by people who stood to make Billions by duping the public, and NASA has known about this since 1958 - but let the LIE propagate nonetheless.
Numerical experiments with the previous model version (INMCM4) for CMIP5 showed unrealistic gradual warming in 1950–2014. The difference between the two model results could be explained by more accurate modeling of the stratospheric volcanic and tropospheric anthropogenic aerosol radiation effect (stabilization in 1950–1970) due to the new aerosol block in INM-CM5 and more accurate prescription of the TSI scenario (stabilization in 2000–2014) in the CMIP6 protocol.
Are these vents a new phenomenon, or have they been occurring for a long, long time? Do you think that methane just sits there if it reaches the lower atmosphere? Wind doesn't move it around? It doesn't mix with other gasses? "Tonnes" isn't really much when you're talking about the atmosphere though. I'd be worried more about the methane released by gas and oil companies, millions of tons in the US, and something we could maybe do something about.
like the dozens of recently discovered heat vents under water which pump tonnes of methane into the atmosphere annually (pockets of heat in lower atmosphere)
The Milancovitch cycles are in the models, actually, but in periods as short as a few centuries they don't have much influence. The Milankovitch cycle say that things should be cooling down right now, just a tiny bit but it should be cooling, not warming.
back-end the 'Milankovich cycles' factors into the climate models being
Matthew DeGumbia · 20 hours ago
Couple this work with that of Dr. Valentina Zarkova on the Solar Dynamo: electroverse.net... with that of the work on planetary gravitational effects on sunspots: phys.org... and one has a pretty good picure of what's going on. Add to that the fact the the solar minimum will lead to a cooling of the Earth, already seen in the Thermosphere being at record low and the decreased magnetic coupling of the Sun and Earth due to reduced solar output and a decline in the Earth's magnetic field leading to incresed cosmic ray penetration and increased cloudiness and cooling: www.thegwpf.com... and the increased earthquake activity and volcanoes spewing eruptions into the stratosphere leads one to a very dismal view of the future of planet Earth for the next period of time. Interesting times ahead.
“In a Grand Solar Minimum, cosmic ray added cloud layers trigger larger flash floods, hailstorms and due to jet stream disturbances with mixing of atmospheric layers, local long duration precipitation events (atmospheric compression events) resulting in the ‘once in a 200 year flood’ you are seeing planet wide in 2019”. David DuByne
However, somewhat counter intuitively, during Grand Solar Minima, cooler phases are historically prone to drought as jet streams move to new locations with singular heat waves and wild fires due to the ‘Equatorial Vortex’ pulling hot air from equatorial bands to northern latitudes. The slow oscillating and rhythmic weather patterns and usurped by fragmented and violent patterns throwing our planetary atmosphere and weather into chaos.
It is primarily the climate instabilities and erratic weather, rather than the actual drop in temperature that initially disrupts agriculture and civilization. During the Little Ice Age,...
It is. The burning of coal and oil which has been buried for millions of years and the resultant increase in CO2 concentrations is quite unnatural.
the idea of warming should instead be the idea of the atmosphere undergoing strange & volatile, unnatural changes...
Cooling? What cooling would that be? Solar activity has been declining for 50 years or so.
already seen in the Thermosphere being at record low and the decreased magnetic coupling of the Sun and Earth due to reduced solar output and a decline in the Earth's magnetic field leading to incresed cosmic ray penetration and increased cloudiness and cooling
Who is this DuByne guy?
In a Grand Solar Minimum, cosmic ray added cloud layers trigger larger flash floods, hailstorms and due to jet stream disturbances with mixing of atmospheric layers, local long duration precipitation events (atmospheric compression events) resulting in the ‘once in a 200 year flood’ you are seeing planet wide in 2019”.
in this talk a renowned scientist, Piers Corbyn, shares with us his scientific discoveries and no bending corners truth about the fake climate change agenda, the part 5G has to play in it, the coming mini ice age and failurs of crops and shortage of food supply..
facinating and to the point.