Victoria's Secret Hire Its First Transgender Model

a reply to: Jay-morris

Why should it bother you what people do in their lives? They do not care what you do, so why care so much. Yes, I can understand if these people were a danger to your life, or your families, but they are not. Just trying to live their life, lime you and me.

I will only address this briefly in order to not further derail the thread, but your above comments (and other comments) are only half true. The legislative and regulatory agenda of the Trans Activists does in fact affect other people, especially women and children, and does put others in danger. The "gender affirming" medicalization of children is having devastating long-term -- even lifelong -- effects. People, and women especially, who dare to criticize or dissent are bullied, harassed, de-platformed, banned, fired, threatened, and physically attacked by Trans Activists. Academics and researchers whose work threatens the Trans Activist narrative are likewise bullied, harassed, de-funded, banned, fired, and otherwise silenced by Trans Activists.

Either you do not know as much as you think you know... or you are gaslighting. If it's the former, I strongly recommend you educate and inform yourself. If you're gaslighting, well... you know what you can do with that!

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Drucifer

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Who. Cares?

I think this is an important topic.

Here we have what appears to be an expansion in the alleged "Trans Conspiracy" or "Trans campaign" or whatever...

What next? The next US Secretary of State is "a trans female"?

I don't buy into any of the "trans conspiracy" BS, I just know there is a group of people out there trying to make themselves fit in to the regular world without having to hide who they are.

That is EXACTLY what he is trying to do, trying to hide who he is. No amount of surgery hacking or hormones is going to hide the fact that he has a y chromosome in every cell in his body. This idea that he is a "woman trapped in a man's body" is a figment of mental illness. The same is true of the segment of society that figures this is normal. It's nuts, which he likely still has because it's a small percentage of these trannies who actually follow through with surgery. It does get them into women's restrooms, though, and into women's sports where they can pretend to "compete."

Who gives a crap! They are not hurting anyone. You can decide to live your life as a dog, I do not care as long as you are not hurting anyone.

I agree with the sports aspect of it though. A trans woman, or man, should not be competing with the same sex if they have an advantage. That's just logical.

As for mental illness, was not long ago that being gay was classed as a mental illness.

Seriously! People should be more concerned the people out there who want to hurt you, hour partner, and your children. Be it murder, rape, child abuse etc

That's what people should be concerned or worried about. Not this!

Would you be saying the same thing if, in five years, a new movement called "transracialism" stormed the planet and began to be pushed through the media?

Yeah, thought not.

a reply to: Fools

In a free society where we value individual freedoms above all else, to live your life as you see fit, worship what you want, freedom of speech, etc.

There is nothing wrong with that.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Gargoyle91

Crocodile Dundee would of checked twice.

Some of you want her to use a male bathroom and changing room?

As far as the mental illness, I consider people who kill animals for sport mentally ill. I could care less about what gender someone feels comfortable as. Obviously someone like Valentina is much better off living as a women.

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Gargoyle91

Crocodile Dundee would of checked twice.

Some of you want her to use a male bathroom and changing room?

As far as the mental illness, I consider people who kill animals for sport mentally ill. I could care less about what gender someone feels comfortable as. Obviously someone like Valentina is much better off living as a women.

You'll change your tune when a bunch of dudes crash into women's competitive sporting events and start regularly taking gold, silver AND bronze, whilst natural females fail to qualify...

originally posted by: new_here

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Who. Cares?

Probably a lot of women?

Meh, I'm tired of women being sexualized in every media possible. Let the dudes take it for a while. He's pretty.

They do need to stay out of women's sports and changing rooms, tho.

Well said. I agree completely.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

I never mentioned competing in sports, especially at the Olympic or professional level. This should not be allowed(at least for male to female transsexuals) for obvious reasons.

And for the record there are not a bunch of men trying to crash women's sports. The issues that happen are few and far between but over hyped by ignorant and transphobic people like you.

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Gargoyle91

Crocodile Dundee would of checked twice.

Some of you want her to use a male bathroom and changing room?

As far as the mental illness, I consider people who kill animals for sport mentally ill. I could care less about what gender someone feels comfortable as. Obviously someone like Valentina is much better off living as a women.

You'll change your tune when a bunch of dudes crash into women's competitive sporting events and start regularly taking gold, silver AND bronze, whilst natural females fail to qualify...

Frankly, I'm all for co-ed sports teams to begin with. May humanity's best collective athletes win. Not just giving girls recognition because we have boobs and vaginas, and can kick or hit a ball, too.

a reply to: Nyiah

Lol.....

Bone density
Fast twitch muscle fiber.

There is a difference between the sexes.

a reply to: Jay-morris

Some people just go for easy targets . This isn't a new issue eg

King James Bible
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

So Jebas had it on his agenda that transgenders be accepted , saying some were 'born that way' and some were 'made that way' by others , and some did that to themselves to prove a point , not sure what yet .

Maybe there's a clue to that in the name proper name of 'heaven' . Maybe by neutering or by crossing the male female divide there is a kind of heaven to be gained , perhaps heavenly feelings or heavenly beauty . Where the hippies of the 60s said , make love not war , that was pretty much wise - do you prefer orgasms or injuries ? Do you want to waste your time alive being sexually repressed by your own self or do want to let loose ? Surely it's a waste of your life time if you're not pursuing the things you dream of and things you can enjoy - within reason of course .

And again do you want to live in a liberated society or one where potential discovery of sexual non-crimes might lead to hurt anxiety lies and societal breakdown in its many forms ? It's the former please , we've seen the latter already , and people should be more accepting and more forgiving , but they should be tougher on the things that do cause harm . That's why we shouldn't be having this debate about the acceptability of transgendering , we should be more interested in whats going on with Epstein for example , and where he's linked with the owner of VS . Are we being thrown a ball of goo here so to adjust our focus ? When there ex-potuses to fry there's no big deal about trans models , except that being created possibly via careful agenda setting .

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Nyiah

Lol.....

Bone density
Fast twitch muscle fiber.

There is a difference between the sexes.

No s#. Did I not say humanity there? As in the top of the top from both ends of the spectrum? That's how you suss out the quality athletes from the coattail riders. If you can make it to co-ed sport teams, then you're truly equals in the chosen sport. If not, then you're not equals and it's minor league level achievements. Explain why this shouldn't be the lofty Best of The Best goal at the end of the day?

I love how the attempt to appeal to you with a trap lol

It's always the go to method. That or some chick on hormones looking like a dumpster fire while claiming you're the one with a # grip on reality then that man like anger boils when reading this.

Know what im saying?

a reply to: Nyiah

That's cool still a stupid idea feel better?

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII

Would you be saying the same thing if, in five years, a new movement called "transracialism" stormed the planet and began to be pushed through the media?
Yeah, thought not.

Already Happened.......

www.indy100.com...

**White woman who 'changed race' thinks she will be able to have a ...
A German model who darkened the colour of her skin to “become a black woman” has appeared on TV saying that she believes she and her white husband could have a black baby. Martina Big has been darkening her skin using melanin injections for two years.

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Nyiah

That's cool still a stupid idea feel better?

You evaded explaining why a true Best of The Best route open to all who can clear the higher hurdle isn't good. Try again, Sam.

The majority of earth has no desire to watch women compete competitively.

a reply to: Nyiah

You explain to me why it isn't stupid Sally.

originally posted by: Lysergic
The majority of earth has no desire to watch women compete competitively.

Unless it's gymnastics, then everyone's glued to the screens for Reasons. Which brings up the uncomfortable subject of average gymnast ages in those competitions.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Gargoyle91

Crocodile Dundee would of checked twice.

Some of you want her to use a male bathroom and changing room?

As far as the mental illness, I consider people who kill animals for sport mentally ill. I could care less about what gender someone feels comfortable as. Obviously someone like Valentina is much better off living as a women.

You'll change your tune when a bunch of dudes crash into women's competitive sporting events and start regularly taking gold, silver AND bronze, whilst natural females fail to qualify...

Frankly, I'm all for co-ed sports teams to begin with. May humanity's best collective athletes win. Not just giving girls recognition because we have boobs and vaginas, and can kick or hit a ball, too.

You're mad, bro.

Have a look at track for instance. Check the 100m and 200m and 400m world records and even just the qualifying times for men.

Now check out the times for women.

Good luck with your "co-ed" competitive sporting utopia...

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Nyiah

You explain to me why it isn't stupid Sally.

I just did. If you can't grasp the concept of passing even harder requirements to earn a more elite athlete status shared by a select few who really are that good regardless of gender, then it's not my fault you have issues in that part of the noggin department.