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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 02:26 PM
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Since Trump was elected I think it's fair to say we've seen quite a sharp rise in groups that support heavy forms of socialism or even communism. Even a large fraction of Democrat front runners appear to be making rather extreme promises in hopes of appealing too these groups. They absolutely love blaming everything on the rich and the failings of capitalism, they frame every argument around class warfare.

If you're poor then you can blame it entirely on some rich old white guys in their view. I pity these people who see the world as these separate classes, so distinctly divided from each other and always feeling hatred or disdain towards people not in the same "class" as them. These social classes are mostly mental constructs, especially in our modern world where there are so many unique and creative ways to make a living.

Capitalism is responsible for lifting more people out of poverty than any other economic system we've ever tried, whereas communism is responsible for killing more people than any other system. If you put in the time and hard work required to learn a skill then you can move yourself into a wealthier class. People seem to have this expectation that a life of comfort and abundance should just be handed to them without that effort.

When it's not they blame everyone around them instead of asking where they failed and how they could improve. People who stumble through the same routine their entire life instead of taking initiative will clearly have less chance of achieving their dreams. Being poor becomes all they know and it becomes ingrained into their way of thinking and speaking, the "upper class" are seen as the evil oppressors of society.

They develop a mentality which traps them in a cycle of poverty by believing so firmly in the divisions between these classes, the only reality they know is the lower class life and they allow themselves to believe it's impossible to escape. To be clear I'm not at all saying positive thinking solves everything, I'm saying the first step is to have the right attitude and be motivated enough to achieve the life you want.

Capitalism isn't a perfect system but at least people have the freedom to educate themselves and practice at a skill to build a successful career. I'm guessing some may argue education isn't cheap, but the internet is a nearly endless resource of virtually free information. A good fraction of highly successful people grew up in poor or middle class families, it didn't stop them. Their upbringing is precisely what gave them the necessary drive.

This mindset that it's impossible to move out of poverty within a capitalist system is a dangerous and defeatist attitude. Politicians often claim they care deeply about the poor and other minority classes, but when you look at their actions it becomes crystal clear they only care whether or not you espouse the same political ideologies as they do, should you oppose them in any way you're vilified and censored.

Take for example Candace Owens, a black female conservative, called a far-right self-hating racist. Or Ben Shapiro, an orthodox Jew, labeled as a Nazi. Or Milo Yiannopoulos, a gay libertarian, portrayed as an icon of the alt-right. If you think alliances on the far-left have a connection to anything beyond political ideologies then you're not paying attention. They only care about votes, not lifting people out of poverty.





posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 02:38 PM
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Another dem bad repubs good thread... Nice


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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: odzeandennz
Right now, the Democrats are spitting more racism and hate than the gop. Yes, Dems are bad as far as the asses representing the party go. I'm sure many of the proles are still half decent, when they aren't sucker punching white people for being white or having love for POTUS. Waaaay too much racist rhetoric coming from the Dems lately, it is causing a rise in violent crime.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: odzeandennz

Anything to say about the deliberate mass cultivation of victim mentality?

That's what this is about. I guess you didn't read it.




posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
Another dem bad repubs good thread... Nice

Not sure where I said all Dems were bad and Repubs were good, but it would appear the right relies much less on virtue signalling and pandering.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 03:05 PM
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If we had capitalism it would be great, but the govt got involved and turned it to a corporatist economy. I am all for free market, as long as the corps arent receiving handouts from the Govt. Haven't seen that in my 40 years.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I'm sorry, did you define NPC? If you did, I missed it.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I'm sorry, did you define NPC? If you did, I missed it.





posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: KnoxMSP
If we had capitalism it would be great, but the govt got involved and turned it to a corporatist economy. I am all for free market, as long as the corps arent receiving handouts from the Govt. Haven't seen that in my 40 years.


"Corporatism" is capitalism doing exactly what it's supposed to do and winning. Capitalism will always seek to control what it can to increase profits. That includes government. That includes stifling competition but any way possible... through lobbyists writing the laws and lifting regulations, lawsuits against competitors, owning the marketspace, controlling the advertising, etc. Capitalism has no ethics and doesn't care about anyone, just profits.

Not sure where you have this idea that the government got involved in capitalism. Capitalism got involved in government to benefit capitalism. Any the rinky dink payoffs to the government might as well be pennies compared the profits the corporatists make from controlling it. There is nothing to fear from government globalism... they don't stand a chance up against corporate globalism. And we've got the most globalist corporatist now as president. Follow the money. Winning!

Government has been intertwined with corporatism from the beginning. The Second Bank of the United States (early 1800s) sponsored it's directors and agents for political office.

At least Jefferson was against the corporatist takeover that was already a threat at the time. Every once in a while you'll get someone trying to stand with the people. But at the moment we have a corporatist president who bragged about buying government favorability and offers up tax laws heavily slanted to benefit the corporatists. Color me not surprised.

As Jefferson wrote to John Adams...

"The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provision should be made to prevent its ascendancy. On the question, what is the best provision, you and I differ; but we differ as rational friends, using the free exercise of our own reason, and mutually indulging its errors. You think it best to put the pseudo-aristoi into a separate chamber of legislation [the Senate], where they may be hindered from doing mischief by their coordinate branches, and where, also, they may be a protection to wealth against the agrarian and plundering enterprises of the majority of the people. I think that to give them power in order to prevent them from doing mischief, is arming them for it, and increasing instead of remedying the evil."
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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Unlike the 1970s, wealth inequality is at all time highs. And what point do the leftist arguments have merit? Will you be happy when laissez faire capitalism results in one CEO having 99% of every dollar ever printed?

You tell me what is the right balance between the haves and the have nots?



As some point it's not propaganda. What level of inequality do you accept as not being propaganda?


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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

No, right now the Republicans are overly sensitive to anything having to do with race for unknown reasons.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: okrian

The El Paso shooter's manifesto was filled with anti-corporatist, anti-corporatism, and anti-corporate globalism propaganda, too. Hmm...



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: worldstarcountry

No, right now the Republicans are overly sensitive to anything having to do with race for unknown reasons.


...and yet the Left has been the group who has spent the past 11 years tying ANYTHING they hear from the Right to "gasp!!! Racism!!!!" Your party is their own goddamn boogeyman.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: KnoxMSP
If we had capitalism it would be great, but the govt got involved and turned it to a corporatist economy. I am all for free market, as long as the corps arent receiving handouts from the Govt. Haven't seen that in my 40 years.


I agree. I hear all this talk of communism and I have to laugh. We are about as far away from workers having any real political power as we can get.

We do have communism in this country. It's just that it's not the kind of communism that is in the worker's favor. What we as you said is corporation communism. The billionaires pay the lobbyist to pass laws creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing.

This graph proves we have no free-markets in this country:

Purchasing Power of the Consumer Dollar

Contrary to the right wing delusions, the facts simple do not support their point of view. Clearly the economic indicators are not in favor of Retardican idiologies.


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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Don't get dragged under the bridge..

I was this close to responding myself..

It was a well crafted piece of bait , I'll give him that...


Respectfully,
~meathead



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: worldstarcountry

No, right now the Republicans are overly sensitive to anything having to do with race for unknown reasons.


...and yet the Left has been the group who has spent the past 11 years tying ANYTHING they hear from the Right to "gasp!!! Racism!!!!" Your party is their own goddamn boogeyman.


What you call the left is not the mainstream left.

You are the victim of click-bait propaganda making you outraged by false stories about the left.


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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: worldstarcountry

No, right now the Republicans are overly sensitive to anything having to do with race for unknown reasons.


...and yet the Left has been the group who has spent the past 11 years tying ANYTHING they hear from the Right to "gasp!!! Racism!!!!" Your party is their own goddamn boogeyman.


What you call the left is not the mainstream left.



What I call the Left is the mainstream's elected officials and selected spokespeople.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: worldstarcountry

No, right now the Republicans are overly sensitive to anything having to do with race for unknown reasons.


...and yet the Left has been the group who has spent the past 11 years tying ANYTHING they hear from the Right to "gasp!!! Racism!!!!" Your party is their own goddamn boogeyman.


What you call the left is not the mainstream left.



What I call the Left is the mainstream's elected officials and selected spokespeople.


Unlike the right, the left has no one in charge. This is what makes the left great. No one worships one person as being the "authority" in the room like the way the right worship's bully ism.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Except that he shot up regular shoppers at a Walmart and not some CEOs. His manifesto was filled with language that echoed Trump and looks like that's the portion that was acted upon. I quote his disdain for the "Hispanic invasion of Texas" and he placed his blame for the bulk of his woes on immigrants. Sound familiar?



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: worldstarcountry

No, right now the Republicans are overly sensitive to anything having to do with race for unknown reasons.


...and yet the Left has been the group who has spent the past 11 years tying ANYTHING they hear from the Right to "gasp!!! Racism!!!!" Your party is their own goddamn boogeyman.


What you call the left is not the mainstream left.



What I call the Left is the mainstream's elected officials and selected spokespeople.


Unlike the right, the left has no one in charge. This is what makes the left great. No one worships one person as being the "authority" in the room like the way the right worship's bully ism.



When all of your elected participants are saying essentially the same thing, there's no need to have a single figurehead, the hive mind is the figurehead.



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