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Ohio Shooter was a leftist socialist against Trump

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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
What escapes me is this. He had already threatened people at school with his ''hit list'' of people he would like to see dead.

As well he rode to that bar to that district not only with his sister but another person.

And when he did the shooting he wore body armor and a mask.

So my question is while riding in the car with two other people did neither of them notice that he was wearing body armor was hiding a mask AND had an AK 47 with him?


While I'm no expert, I would have to say, those are kind of "red flags".




posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
What escapes me is this. He had already threatened people at school with his ''hit list'' of people he would like to see dead.

As well he rode to that bar to that district not only with his sister but another person.

And when he did the shooting he wore body armor and a mask.

So my question is while riding in the car with two other people did neither of them notice that he was wearing body armor was hiding a mask AND had an AK 47 with him?


While I'm no expert, I would have to say, those are kind of "red flags".


Now the real Question is
Did he shoot them before or after the attack to try and cover it up



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Now I guess is was not an AK but a modified rifle but still,



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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There's no choice left.

They will start classifying people with a new "mental stability rating" system 😎

Annual examination will be required 😎



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:38 PM
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WE will never know the truth.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

You need to get off your saddle and speak the truth. This guy is a lefty. The parents along with the Shooter were AGAINST Trump and the alt right:

HEAVY


His parents’ Facebook accounts are active. Their names are Moira and Steve Betts. On Facebook, his mom posted pictures of pumpkins, family, Christmas ornaments, Christian religious statues and a graphic that declared “stop the alt right.” She labeled a photo of Betts and his sister Megan, “My loves.” His dad wrote on Facebook that he was a technical lead for a technologies corporation. Betts’ father posted about net neutrality and funny parody videos. He also shared a video that criticized the rhetoric of President Donald Trump. Here’s his dad’s post the day after Sandy Hook:



Connor Betts’ Twitter page is very different; he indicates he’s a “leftist” and rails against QAnon, ICE, the industrial revolution, and police. The page handle? I am the spookster. On one selfie, he included the hashtags, “#selfie4satan #HailSatan @SatanTweeting.” On the date of Republican Sen. John McCain’s death, he wrote, “F*ck John McCain.”



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Hes following the rhetoric of the DNC and AOC, specifically against the Police and ICE. Personal. Really so why all of the others. His HATE goes back to his high school days. This is a family of Privileged Progressives. There PP DNA is all over the place on social media.


Connor Betts’ Twitter page is very different; he indicates he’s a “leftist” and rails against QAnon, ICE, the industrial revolution, and police. The page handle? I am the spookster. On one selfie, he included the hashtags, “#selfie4satan #HailSatan @SatanTweeting.” On the date of Republican Sen. John McCain’s death, he wrote, “F*ck John McCain.”

edit on 5-8-2019 by Waterglass because: added



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64

The hypocrisy of her type knows no bounds - best shake the dust from your sandal and move on to those with ears to hear and eyes to see..



twitter.com...



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: TritonTaranis

Fake news comes from Breitbart.

Next thing you'll be telling me is Trump condemned 'both sides'.'



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Secretrooster
Have you ever pondered the idea that crazy people have political opinions too? You’re going to have people on both ends of the political spectrums, no matter what crime.

Let’s stop blaming it on political views.



This is somehow what it's become, it looks like some sick competition between the left and the right for bragging rights . It's not my team doing this it's yours neener neener. Looks like political hooliganism to me.


It’s sad, but what do they expect the political opposition do? Roll over and have their countries stolen, be intimidated by threats, violence lies and propaganda?

If only normality continued after Trumps election, or Brexit and the losers accepted defeat and this is the way democracy works, you have to concede defeat and try again at the next elections, not pursue and employ nefarious dangerous methods to reverse democracy


If Trump wins the next election, the News Media will foment a shooting war between the Dems and Repubs...Get ready for it...



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 07:02 PM
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www.buzzfeednews.com... there was also this so not even sure how to classify this shenanigans


The gunman, identified as 24-year-old Connor Betts, was a member of Menstrual Munchies, a three-person band that performed regularly in the Midwest death metal scene, recently appearing as one of the bands at the Summer Massacre 2 concert in Chicago on June 29. Pornogrind is a subgenre of a fast and extreme kind of heavy metal called grindcore, which is known for its mostly dark, satirical themes of sexual violence and gore delivered for shock value. The band's song titles are explicitly sexually violent, such as "Preteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter" and "C*nt Stuffed With Medical Waste - Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse." The album art is equally explicit. One album cover shows a woman consuming feces, while another shows an illustration of a young woman's headless body chained to a bed, covered in blood, as a man puts his pants back on.
this seems to add points to "he was an incel" category



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Sillyolme
There is no known motive for the shooting.
He went there with his sister and her boyfriend and then he killed both of them.
I think it was personal and had nothing to do with politics.





"I think it was personal and had nothing to do with politics."

If that is true, why didn't he stop after he killed his sister and her boyfriend....why did he decide to kill more people?


I think the fact he had body armour, mask and a drum mag means this was not a random spur of the moment deal.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
www.buzzfeednews.com... there was also this so not even sure how to classify this shenanigans


The gunman, identified as 24-year-old Connor Betts, was a member of Menstrual Munchies, a three-person band that performed regularly in the Midwest death metal scene, recently appearing as one of the bands at the Summer Massacre 2 concert in Chicago on June 29. Pornogrind is a subgenre of a fast and extreme kind of heavy metal called grindcore, which is known for its mostly dark, satirical themes of sexual violence and gore delivered for shock value. The band's song titles are explicitly sexually violent, such as "Preteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter" and "C*nt Stuffed With Medical Waste - Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse." The album art is equally explicit. One album cover shows a woman consuming feces, while another shows an illustration of a young woman's headless body chained to a bed, covered in blood, as a man puts his pants back on.
this seems to add points to "he was an incel" category


Huh? obviously pretty freaky but what about the music indicates incel?



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

not the music its self, but from what we know of him from either social media posts (him being single,him having a "rape and hit list" from high school) i dont think we can post his reddit handle here but it was dug up on other forums as his (not confirmed mind you) and there were other suspected posts that again have not been confirmed which alleged he was getting kicked out of his house for saying he wanted to sleep with his mother and sister and they turned him down hence him getting kicked out(im pretty skeptical of this honestly)

www.dailyitem.com... few supporting links this one mostly background

www.ajc.com... this one talks about the talahasse shooter being a self discribed incel( one of the growing trends for some shooters it seems)

www.oxygen.com...

The 24-year-old Ohio man accused of opening fire on a Dayton entertainment district, killing nine including his sister, was once suspended from high school for creating a hit list and rape list of students he wanted to hurt. Connor Betts was removed from the classroom after authorities discovered a notebook he'd kept with a list of people he wanted to rape and kill, then skin their bodies, according to Dayton 24/7 Now. He also caused a school lockdown after a similar “hit list” was written on a bathroom wall of the Bellbrook High School, the Dayton Daily News reports. Chris Baker, the former principal at the school, did not deny the allegations that the shooter had written the list on the bathroom wall or that he was later suspended for the act. “I would not dispute that information, but I don’t want to get involved any more than just making that comment,” he said.
id rank having a "rape list" as pretty incel behavior or at least a subtype of it ,but apparently he got back to "normal" after seeking treatment after his hit list incident in high school . here is a second snippit from above source

Biehl said that police shot and killed the gunman just 30 seconds after the shots began. "I'm amazed at the quick response of Dayton police that literally saved hundreds of lives," said Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley. Those who knew the gunman said they were not surprised to learn he had been involved in the act of violence. “I think this is less of a hate crime and more of an ‘I hate everybody’ crime,” Howell said. “I honestly feel more comfortable now knowing that he’s gone.”
cops had a 30 second response time from when he first fired tell they shot him in the face which as a side note is pretty impressive response time


The Neckbeard Deathcamp band wrote on Twitter, “I did not know Conner Betts personally, but the midwest grind scene isn’t large and we spend a lot of time pushing pornogrind out of Chicago DIY. For what it’s worth men who cape hard line “””””left””””” politics who still treat women like sh*t are not exactly a new invention.” According to Vice, Betts followed their account on his now deleted Twitter page and was in other bands that are part of the “pornogrind scene.”
the article near the bottom talks about "incel warfare" just seems its becoming at least a recent trend of incel like actions and beliefs in mass shooters



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: links234

Do you believe snopes? It tends to lean left. www.snopes.com...

They rated this as TRUE: Connor Betts, the suspect in the Dayton mass shooting in August 2019, has on social media described himself as a leftist, expressed “pro-Satan” views, and has stated support for Elizabeth Warren.

another source:
www.washingtontimes.com...

Just because CNN and MSNBC and the NY Times or Mother Jones refuse to report it, doesn't mean it isn't true.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: Iscool

We are clearly already in a silent civil war. The rhetoric makes this clear.

Not just on the right, the 2020 Dem debates have been a hate fest, complete with anger, finger pointing and snark.

It does sort of appear as if the rhetoric has turned violent on both sides. Antifa is just one very open example of this on the left and progressive movement. Even though the left denies they are responsible for any violence, that only the right is violent. But that just isn't true and Ohio is a clear example.

You may have a point about the violence possibly ratcheting up if the Dems lose again, they have taken 2016 so hard and fought it tooth and nail for 2 years now with anger, hostility, and nasty name calling rhetoric. Losing the 2020 election just might send the rage into open civil war to "take back the country". But that is just my humble opinion and may not happen at all, I'm just saying it is a possibility if one looks at the rage expressed by the Dems at the debates.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: BlackIbanez

We're on the verge of some ugly # and all I want to do is protect my family.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: The2Billies
a reply to: links234

Do you believe snopes? It tends to lean left.


Facts and the truth do have a liberal bias.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: RalagaNarHallas

Ok, thanks for that!

Rape lists and hit lists..this guy was a bomb waiting to go off it would appear.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 11:30 PM
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ive posted this several times today about the stuff he was saying and had posted before, to every single leftist that was grouping these guys together and blaming "Trump Rhetoric"

Everytime i post the facts about this guy and point out their hypocrisy, they absolutely abandon their comments or start calling me names




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