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Ohio shooting, first reports: At least 7 people killed

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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: IAMTAT

It certainly seems to be the case when its my opinion.



...and I'm always grateful when you freely express your personal opinion.




posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Of course not.

I realize we don't really know the motive of the Dayton shooter but should this turn out to be ideologically linked and it doesn't fit their Trump narrative then I suspect the MSM will conveniently gloss over it and focus on his 100 drum mag, orhis being harassed because he wasn't Christian or whatever instead.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

The whole 8Chan thing hits too close to home. They're defensive. Obviously.



So it seems.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: IAMTAT

Of course not.

I realize we don't really know the motive of the Dayton shooter but should this turn out to be ideologically linked and it doesn't fit their Trump narrative then I suspect the MSM will conveniently gloss over it and focus on his 100 drum mag, orhis being harassed because he wasn't Christian or whatever instead.


Because the MSM has a political agenda.
Calling that out is a public service to others.

The MSM is a product.
It makes claims.
When any defective or dangerous product make it's way through the marketplace...it's up to it's consumers to speak up as to the validity of it's claims.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: IAMTAT

Is this a competition, is this what's going on here ?

The left blame the right for the shootings, then the right need to prove its the left that commit more shootings all while these sick evil twisted bastards that are intent on causing others harm, do just that meanwhile you friggin lot are trying to score the political moral high ground. That's really messed up.


Blame the MSM...don't blame those reporting on what they write and say.




Who needs personal responsibility when there is something else to blame for the behaviour eh, no I'm going with you and you only are responsible for what you write and say.


WOW....my own personal judge.
TY.





Own your bull#, be proud of it ,it's yours no one else's, not the Media's it's yours.


Yup, this sh#t is getting tiring, everybody trying to score points off of dead bodies..f@cking sick



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I agree but because people don't switch it off and don't think for themselves it is all the more worrying that MSM seems to be hell bent on creating their own reality.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: vonclod

Here is the sick part IMO. Something like this happens and we have a few weeks of pearl clutching and name calling and mud slinging by Politicians who want nothing better for us than to ”govern" us to the grave. Do gooders think they have the answer and all it requires is for everyone to give up something so that someone doesn't get hurt tomorrow.

Where is all this angst, 24 hour news coverage, and the quick fixes for the 3000 deaths in swimming pools each year in the US?
Or any of the other deaths by objects that are in common usage?

You are correct, this is about scoring points but who is try6 to score these points and to what means? That is what is important here.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
Republican friends of mine are posting on their social media that Betts was a leftist, Satan worshipping, Elizabeth Warren supporter. They are saying that he had a Twitter account that was taken down hours after the shooting where he posted all kinds of far left wing leftist ideology. I would think that if true it would be all over ats, anybody know if any truth to these allegations? I'm not finding any reputable sources reporting this yet.


Heavy.com has written about his Twitter postings and it sounds about what your friends are saying:

Connor Betts: Twitter Posts on Being a Leftist, Guns

Connor Betts: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

He was apparently already known as violent in high school:

Dayton Shooter Reportedly Suspended From High School for Writing “Hit List” on Wall

Dayton shooter kept a ‘hit list’ and a ‘rape list,’ classmates say

I've seen claims that he was an incel... but not sure either way about that.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Don’t act innocent

You posted on the El Paso thread that you wondered where that shooter got his anti immigrant stance

You and so many Dems and media people want to smear trump or people when it’s a right wing attacker, then pout when the right smears the left when it’s a left wing attacker



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Sillyolme

Don’t act innocent

You posted on the El Paso thread that you wondered where that shooter got his anti immigrant stance

You and so many Dems and media people want to smear trump or people when it’s a right wing attacker, then pout when the right smears the left when it’s a left wing attacker



Funny...I actually though Silly's hypocrisy on this was way too obvious to mention.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

To be fair, in the El Paso case we know the motive. And it is very much in line with the rhetoric of the far Right and even mirrors some statements made by Trump.

We still don't know the root cause in the Dayton case. Although the death of the sister would seemingly indicate something more domestic.

One of these is very much a politically motivated act. The other is an unknown. That's why it's ridiculous to try to peg the Dayton tragedy to the killer's political leanings.

I hope you and others can see the difference.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Grambler

To be fair, in the El Paso case we know the motive. And it is very much in line with the rhetoric of the far Right and even mirrors some statements made by Trump.

We still don't know the root cause in the Dayton case. Although the death of the sister would seemingly indicate something more domestic.

One of these is very much a politically motivated act. The other is an unknown. That's why it's ridiculous to try to peg the Dayton tragedy to the killer's political leanings.

I hope you and others can see the difference.


wow

just wow

the way you score murders is disgusting



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

What scoring? I'm simply pointing out the fact that one case is clearly politically motivated. We don't know what motivated the other one. So why do people are people trying to ascribe it to his politics before all the facts are out?

It seems to me that the people trying to bring up the Dayton killer's politics are the ones that are trying to score points. Maybe you should express your disgust towards them.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I see the difference

Just about every prominent right winger denounced the El Paso shooter, and the many in the media and Dems tried to blame trump for it

When a left wing killer emerges, excuses are made or the political leanings are ignored

Truly disgusting



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Xcalibur254

I see the difference

Just about every prominent right winger denounced the El Paso shooter, and the many in the media and Dems tried to blame trump for it

When a left wing killer emerges, excuses are made or the political leanings are ignored

Truly disgusting


I haven't heard CNN, MSNBC and the MSM blame the Dayton shooting on Socialism, Warren, Bernie, ANTIFA, the Squad, Satan...after the Dayton shooter praised them on his social media.

It's all so curious.
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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 01:18 PM
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Anybody heard anything about these mental cases being on medications ?

😎



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

The interesting thing about the El Paso manifesto is it is ideologically all over the map.

Trump isn't anti corporation nor does Trump ever say anything about urban sprawl and diminished resources these are more leftists sort of ideologies.

I think the El Paso Murderer was the sort who reacted and blamed anyone he could for anything.

And you are right, we don't know what Dayton's motive was yet.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Nothing other than they both had close ties to mental health professions. I believe the Dayton murderer at one point was in college studying one of the mental health fields, or at least claimed it on social media.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 01:33 PM
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Here's something that should make the white supremacist happy... another man died of his wounds in the hospital in El Paso.

The death toll now stands at 30 from both mass murders.

But this is encouraging to finally be able to place blame where it belongs...



GOP lawmaker blames mass shootings on Obama and ‘drag queen advocates’ in crazed Facebook rant


www.rawstory.com...
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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

It's not just left wing nutters either but also when the narrative doesn't support their agenda. Take the Naval Yard shooter for example. He was black and used a 12 gauge shotgun so that was dropped pretty quickly by MSM.

People would do better to not rely on social media and quick MSM headlines for their information but who am I kiidding?

What is getting on my nerves right now regarding investigative reporters not existing or caring anymore is no one is reporting on how exactly El Paso was taken into custody. I think this is an important part of the story of the police response but MSM is crickets.




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