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Ohio shooting, first reports: At least 7 people killed

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posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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Do NOT believe the media...




His parents’ accounts are active. Their names are Moira and Steve Betts. On Facebook, his mom posted pictures of pumpkins, family, Christmas ornaments, Christian religious statues and a graphic that declared “stop the alt right.” She labeled a photo of Betts and an apparent sibling, “My loves.” His dad wrote on Facebook that he was a technical lead for a technologies corporation. Betts’ father posted about net neutrality and funny parody videos. He also shared a video that criticized the rhetoric of President Donald Trump.


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posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Not sure. Did they find the parents yet ala Newtown?

So soon we forget the two in Colorado who are somehow tied to a woman in FL who went missing. This was another case of bullying as it has come out about these last 3.


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posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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What can be done to a mass shooter that would deter the next mass shooter?


Hint: It's the same for radical Islamist terrorists. But the punishment Would be even more effective with our American assassins.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Did you get that quote from the media?

So far, has the media reported any lies about Connor Betts?



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

Gunz make it easy for anyone to kill lots of people.


So does a car, but what is driving people to want to mass kill?



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

No, those are directly from their facebook pages. They are still up go take a look.

the media screaming WHITE SUPREMACISTS SHOOTING UP AMERICA is what the lie is....



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:45 PM
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The fact that internet forums light up with these discussions, probably has the next mass-shooter gearing up to become famous for a few days.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: LookingAtMars

Active shooter training has become a common thing. They have drills in schools now like they do for fires.
This is the way things are now. This is the world we live in in the USA.
Gun culture, The NRA, lobbyists.. F that.
Take all the guns away make everyone suffer and then maybe someone will seriously consider a solution to the problem.
Peer pressure.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Sookiechacha

No, those are directly from their facebook pages. They are still up go take a look.

the media screaming WHITE SUPREMACISTS SHOOTING UP AMERICA is what the lie is....


Gotta link? I have a Facebook account, but I'm not very good at navigating the site.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:48 PM
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Could we please try to discuss the shooting?


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posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: antar

Ohio governor was saying that there are some photos being identified as the shooter that are not the shooter.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

This is from his moms page.....

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They do not seem like Trump Supporters....or White Supremacists...



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Maybe I've missed something, but I haven't noticed the media even speculating on motive at this point for this case. So how can they be lying about his motive?



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Yes, there was a picture of a very very skinny white kid that was being pushed around 4Chan and the likes. These current ones are the kid.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
Police just reported they found the shooters sister as well as her boyfriend dead shot by who is suspected to be him.

This is getting weirder and weirder.....


Sister of Dayton gunman and her boyfriend are found shot dead


The sister of the Ohio gunman and her boyfriend have been found shot dead in a car just hours after the 24-year-old opened fire in a crowded bar, killing nine and injuring 27 others in less than a minute.


They were found hours after the shooting.

And in a car.

weirder and weirder for sure.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

When the media describes



Six of the nine victims were African American and police have said they don't think it was targeted discrimination because of the short timeline of the massacre - but added they aren't ruling it out.


a shooting like this....they are all victims no matter their color.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: LookingAtMars

Sounds like a 3-way suicide pact, but one of the 3 chose to take others with him.



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Active shooter training has become a common thing. They have drills in schools now like they do for fires.
This is the way things are now. This is the world we live in in the USA.
Gun culture, The NRA, lobbyists.. F that.
Take all the guns away make everyone suffer and then maybe someone will seriously consider a solution to the problem.
Peer pressure.


Guns have been around a long time without much of this issue. It isn't gun culture driving it as much as social media culture. People are not magically made into an extremest or mass killer the vast majority of the time. Take away guns and it doesn't stop the desire to kill that these people have. What do you think would happen if a person went down busy sidewalks in any big city around noon with a big truck?

We also have the news that will sensationalize this for weeks. When was the last time national news talked about the weekly killings in just one city like Chicago? That sensation is just as much to blame to trigger a few crazies out of 330 million people.


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posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Or maybe they found out what he was going to do. It says they were found in a car nearby. They may have tried to stop him?



posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Wow. That poor woman. She just lost both her children. What happened Moira? So sad.

But, in all fairness, me and my mother's politics and beliefs couldn't be further apart. Who knows what happened there. Just really, really sad, unexpected and weird.




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