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The truth is we need Gun Control and Predictive Policing

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posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:12 PM
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Nobody will say "smart guns" would have stopped the el paso shooting?




posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: neoholographic

~sigh~

We need to find out why everyone over 6 is being prescribed psychotropic drugs.

Dig into the one feature that is common with all these mass shooters...



America has had 200+ years of gun culture. Only in the 90's did we start seeing a major issue. I think you're right.



That combined with a glorifying of war , Americans are used as the globalists hammer, the need for soldiers outweighs the consequences or should I say fall out .


I think that has very little to do with it. I think its the drugs, and a lack of being able to cope and overcome even the smallest of adversities.




Sure that plays heavily into it, no doubt, however I still believe what I stated earlier is part of the problem.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

I tend to think that mentally ill people are not insane people. But I guess you never know when a brain will just snap. I know that my Mother taught me to respect other people, as in, you never affect another person life in a negative way. I always thought that basically meant your respect another person physical well being. I've been suicidal throughout much of my life, and I never thought about hurting anyone other than myself. Its basic common sense and respect for other human beings being lost here.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: mtnshredder
a reply to: neoholographic
You think profiling society is a good idea? You’re willing to give up your privacy and your freedom that easy? Are you insane? There’s to much of it going on as it is. I personally don’t want to live in your Orwellian world, thanks but no thanks.


Who are you giving your privacy up to?

Again, people don't understand technology. We're not in the days of J. Edgar Hoover where there's manila folders with your info on it.

We live in an age of big data.

We conduct more than half of our web searches from a mobile phone now.
More than 3.7 billion humans use the internet (that’s a growth rate of 7.5 percent over 2016).
On average, Google now processes more than 40,000 searches EVERY second (3.5 billion searches per day)!
While 77% of searches are conducted on Google, it would be remiss not to remember other search engines are also contributing to our daily data generation. Worldwide there are 5 billion searches a day.

Every minute:

Snapchat users share 527,760 photos
More than 120 professionals join LinkedIn
Users watch 4,146,600 YouTube videos
456,000 tweets are sent on Twitter
Instagram users post 46,740 photos

1.5 billion people are active on Facebook daily
Europe has more than 307 million people on Facebook
There are five new Facebook profiles created every second!
More than 300 million photos get uploaded per day
Every minute there are 510,000 comments posted and 293,000 statuses updated


Big Data

It has NOTHING to do with privacy.

You need intelligent algorithms to make correlations within the data that no human can ever make because it's too much data.

Like I said, 95% of the data will never be seen by human eyes.


And how long before someone who may be upset gets their face scanned by some AI and is flagged as a potential threat before having done something? And how do you determine that this person is indeed not a threat, and will never be a threat?


LOL, that's not how it works.

An intelligent algorithm will look at social media posts and more and make correlations in the data. It will then flag 4 to 5% of the data and most of it will never be seen by human eyes.

There's no other way to find a signal in all of the noise.


Uh-huh. So social media posts will be used to do what, exactly, to a person that has committed no crime. Are you condoning thought crime at this point? If so, how do you separate the real threat, from the noise? I only ask because I've yet to see an algorithm without flaw.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:17 PM
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Only sick minds commit mass shootings. Period.

Taking away every single weapon will only resort to people being more creative in their chaos.


Mass casualty events would still occur with or without guns.


Unless you always want to ban damn near everything you store under your sink as well.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:17 PM
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Actually, the solution is more guns.

More people need to carry 24/7.

If I have to explain why, you're stupid.




posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: mtnshredder
a reply to: neoholographic
You think profiling society is a good idea? You’re willing to give up your privacy and your freedom that easy? Are you insane? There’s to much of it going on as it is. I personally don’t want to live in your Orwellian world, thanks but no thanks.


Who are you giving your privacy up to?

Again, people don't understand technology. We're not in the days of J. Edgar Hoover where there's manila folders with your info on it.

We live in an age of big data.

We conduct more than half of our web searches from a mobile phone now.
More than 3.7 billion humans use the internet (that’s a growth rate of 7.5 percent over 2016).
On average, Google now processes more than 40,000 searches EVERY second (3.5 billion searches per day)!
While 77% of searches are conducted on Google, it would be remiss not to remember other search engines are also contributing to our daily data generation. Worldwide there are 5 billion searches a day.

Every minute:

Snapchat users share 527,760 photos
More than 120 professionals join LinkedIn
Users watch 4,146,600 YouTube videos
456,000 tweets are sent on Twitter
Instagram users post 46,740 photos

1.5 billion people are active on Facebook daily
Europe has more than 307 million people on Facebook
There are five new Facebook profiles created every second!
More than 300 million photos get uploaded per day
Every minute there are 510,000 comments posted and 293,000 statuses updated


Big Data

It has NOTHING to do with privacy.

You need intelligent algorithms to make correlations within the data that no human can ever make because it's too much data.

Like I said, 95% of the data will never be seen by human eyes.


And how long before someone who may be upset gets their face scanned by some AI and is flagged as a potential threat before having done something? And how do you determine that this person is indeed not a threat, and will never be a threat?


LOL, that's not how it works.

An intelligent algorithm will look at social media posts and more and make correlations in the data. It will then flag 4 to 5% of the data and most of it will never be seen by human eyes.

There's no other way to find a signal in all of the noise.


At the risk of not being able to go here anymore...

All your data has already been monitored by computer since the early 80's.

Every bank transaction, every phone call, what you watch... with credit cards what you buy, where you were in the age before cellphone tracking.

It's just gotten a WHOLE lot more intrusive since I was there.

These mass murders going on?

With a few exceptions of some REALLY off-the -cliff crazies, they already knew what person was going to do what with a high probability.

THAT being said, why is it allowed to happen?

Think that through please instead of your idea of an AI-run Utopia which will FINALLY solve the problem of humans being in charge of a socialist society, which is just mental masturbation since it's going to be coded by, used by and corrupted by humans.




edit on 3-8-2019 by Lumenari because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
Nobody will say "smart guns" would have stopped the el paso shooting?





Sure it would've if the gun would have been disabled when he walked into Walmart or he would have been flagged by Predictive Policing.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: neoholographic

~sigh~

We need to find out why everyone over 6 is being prescribed psychotropic drugs.

Dig into the one feature that is common with all these mass shooters...



America has had 200+ years of gun culture. Only in the 90's did we start seeing a major issue. I think you're right.



That combined with a glorifying of war , Americans are used as the globalists hammer, the need for soldiers outweighs the consequences or should I say fall out .


I think that has very little to do with it. I think its the drugs, and a lack of being able to cope and overcome even the smallest of adversities.




Sure that plays heavily into it, no doubt, however I still believe what I stated earlier is part of the problem.


How so? If indeed 90% of these shootings are a result of drugs, depression, and other mental issues, where does glorifying war come in? Because a gun was used? That's flimsy.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: neoholographic
We seem to have extremes running Washington and it has deadly consequences.

1. We need more Gun Control. I'm a Conservative Independent and when people act like any gun control measures will be taking away their rights, it's just nonsense. We can make harder for those with mental illness to get a gun. We can have tougher background checks and add extra layers in order to buy a gun. We did the right thing in banning bum stocks

We need to have smart guns and smart gun technology that can be added to existing weapons. These guns can have sensors that detect when you're entering a shopping center and disable the gun. You can make it mandatory that all guns are equipped with smart gun technology.

2. We need Predictive Policing but the ACLU and Liberals in Congress will scream about privacy. What people don't understand is, there's no way that any human being can look at all of the data needed for an intelligent algorithm to make correlations in the data.

With the growth of big data, we're all sitting ducks if we don't allow the latest intelligent algorithms to find potential terrorists and mass shooters buried in all of the data.

The amount of data we produce every day is truly mind-boggling. There are 2.5 quintillion bytes of data created each day at our current pace, but that pace is only accelerating with the growth of the Internet of Things (IoT). Over the last two years alone 90 percent of the data in the world was generated. This is worth re-reading! While it’s almost impossible to wrap your mind around these numbers, I gathered together some of my favorite stats to help illustrate some of the ways we create these colossal amounts of data every single day.

Big Data

Again, the ACLU acts like we're in the old days of Hoover where some G-Man has a drawer full of manila folders with info on it. We're talking about more data than anyone can look at or understand. This is why we need these algorithms in the first place.

So 96 to 98% of the data will never bee seen by human eyes. Humans will just see the flagged data.

This flagged data will lead you to potential mass shooters and terrorists. These people will be talked to and monitored. I'm sure this shooter as well as many others would have been flagged by the algorithm.

If you don't do Predictive Policing then we're all doomed. Too many mass shooters and potential terrorist will be lost in the mountains of data and traditional investigations will never find the signals in the noise.

This shows that both parties seem to be paralyzed by their ideology and they can't do basic, common sense things. I hate to say it, but I don't know how the nation survives when it's this polarized. It's a powder keg that's on the verge of exploding.


Lol yea because banning bump stocks prevented all the shooting since vegas.

I couldn't continue reading after reading something so stupid.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Nobody will say "smart guns" would have stopped the el paso shooting?





Sure it would've if the gun would have been disabled when he walked into Walmart or he would have been flagged by Predictive Policing.


LOL you can't know that.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: mtnshredder
a reply to: neoholographic
You think profiling society is a good idea? You’re willing to give up your privacy and your freedom that easy? Are you insane? There’s to much of it going on as it is. I personally don’t want to live in your Orwellian world, thanks but no thanks.


Who are you giving your privacy up to?

Again, people don't understand technology. We're not in the days of J. Edgar Hoover where there's manila folders with your info on it.

We live in an age of big data.

We conduct more than half of our web searches from a mobile phone now.
More than 3.7 billion humans use the internet (that’s a growth rate of 7.5 percent over 2016).
On average, Google now processes more than 40,000 searches EVERY second (3.5 billion searches per day)!
While 77% of searches are conducted on Google, it would be remiss not to remember other search engines are also contributing to our daily data generation. Worldwide there are 5 billion searches a day.

Every minute:

Snapchat users share 527,760 photos
More than 120 professionals join LinkedIn
Users watch 4,146,600 YouTube videos
456,000 tweets are sent on Twitter
Instagram users post 46,740 photos

1.5 billion people are active on Facebook daily
Europe has more than 307 million people on Facebook
There are five new Facebook profiles created every second!
More than 300 million photos get uploaded per day
Every minute there are 510,000 comments posted and 293,000 statuses updated


Big Data

It has NOTHING to do with privacy.

You need intelligent algorithms to make correlations within the data that no human can ever make because it's too much data.

Like I said, 95% of the data will never be seen by human eyes.


And how long before someone who may be upset gets their face scanned by some AI and is flagged as a potential threat before having done something? And how do you determine that this person is indeed not a threat, and will never be a threat?


LOL, that's not how it works.

An intelligent algorithm will look at social media posts and more and make correlations in the data. It will then flag 4 to 5% of the data and most of it will never be seen by human eyes.

There's no other way to find a signal in all of the noise.


Uh-huh. So social media posts will be used to do what, exactly, to a person that has committed no crime. Are you condoning thought crime at this point? If so, how do you separate the real threat, from the noise? I only ask because I've yet to see an algorithm without flaw.


It would work something like this. Post something the a segment of the interwebz finds offensive, racist, misogynist etc and it gets flagged. Except, instead of getting a post ban or something that is just annoying, you get a knock on the door and a free trip to reeducation camp to teach you how to think like a good, upstanding member of society. If they cant "fix" you......well who knows what happens then.
edit on pm88201919America/Chicago03p07pm by annoyedpharmacist because: somewhat fixed awful sentence structure



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Thats...a really really bad idea.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: neoholographic

~sigh~

We need to find out why everyone over 6 is being prescribed psychotropic drugs.

Dig into the one feature that is common with all these mass shooters...



America has had 200+ years of gun culture. Only in the 90's did we start seeing a major issue. I think you're right.



That combined with a glorifying of war , Americans are used as the globalists hammer, the need for soldiers outweighs the consequences or should I say fall out .


So the highest percentage of gun-related murders in the USA is gang related.

How exactly does that fit in with your not-so-brilliant post?





I wouldn't expect you to understand as you are one of those hammers, gang culture is only part of the problem and is most certainly fueled by the need glorifying if violence.

Also you seem need to belittle anyone that dares think outside your very tiny little box you dwell in, it must be hard being so unhappy all the Time


Well, as far as gang culture and glorifying violence goes, you would have to be willing to discuss the greater cultures involved. Lack of fathers, and so on.

Ready for that conversation?



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: BoscoMoney
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Thats...a really really bad idea.


I know. But that is where predictive policing would lead.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: mtnshredder
a reply to: neoholographic
You think profiling society is a good idea? You’re willing to give up your privacy and your freedom that easy? Are you insane? There’s to much of it going on as it is. I personally don’t want to live in your Orwellian world, thanks but no thanks.


Who are you giving your privacy up to?

Again, people don't understand technology. We're not in the days of J. Edgar Hoover where there's manila folders with your info on it.

We live in an age of big data.

We conduct more than half of our web searches from a mobile phone now.
More than 3.7 billion humans use the internet (that’s a growth rate of 7.5 percent over 2016).
On average, Google now processes more than 40,000 searches EVERY second (3.5 billion searches per day)!
While 77% of searches are conducted on Google, it would be remiss not to remember other search engines are also contributing to our daily data generation. Worldwide there are 5 billion searches a day.

Every minute:

Snapchat users share 527,760 photos
More than 120 professionals join LinkedIn
Users watch 4,146,600 YouTube videos
456,000 tweets are sent on Twitter
Instagram users post 46,740 photos

1.5 billion people are active on Facebook daily
Europe has more than 307 million people on Facebook
There are five new Facebook profiles created every second!
More than 300 million photos get uploaded per day
Every minute there are 510,000 comments posted and 293,000 statuses updated


Big Data

It has NOTHING to do with privacy.

You need intelligent algorithms to make correlations within the data that no human can ever make because it's too much data.

Like I said, 95% of the data will never be seen by human eyes.


And how long before someone who may be upset gets their face scanned by some AI and is flagged as a potential threat before having done something? And how do you determine that this person is indeed not a threat, and will never be a threat?


LOL, that's not how it works.

An intelligent algorithm will look at social media posts and more and make correlations in the data. It will then flag 4 to 5% of the data and most of it will never be seen by human eyes.

There's no other way to find a signal in all of the noise.


Uh-huh. So social media posts will be used to do what, exactly, to a person that has committed no crime. Are you condoning thought crime at this point? If so, how do you separate the real threat, from the noise? I only ask because I've yet to see an algorithm without flaw.


It would work something like this. Post something the a segment of the interwebz finds offensive, racist, misogynist etc and it gets flagged. Except, instead of getting a post ban or something that is just annoying, you get a knock on the door and a free trip to reeducation camp to teach you how to think like a good, and upstanding member of society, and if they cant "fix" you......well who knows what happens then.


Its the only logical outcome.
edit on 3-8-2019 by Wardaddy454 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Oh the British model
No thanks
We have a first amendment right



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

"Predictive policing" is irrelevant in that it does not provide any sort of prognostication or statistical probability applicable to abnormal behavior.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: RickinVa
Only sick minds commit mass shootings. Period.

Taking away every single weapon will only resort to people being more creative in their chaos.



How very true look at knife violence in the UK. ban guns throw bombs? Humans are creative.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

Why would it be disabled wslking into walmart?
Texas is an open carry state.
How would he have been flagged?

Seriously

None of what you people want to do infringing on INNOCENT citizens rights wuld have stopped this guy.
We have a FREE OPEN SOCIETY. That relies on its citizens being civil.
You cant legislate civility.
We can trade lives that is the cost of our society.




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