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ATS Has Become an Echo Chamber for Trump

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posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

You do make an interesting point. My first reaction to your post was to disagree, but after some further consideration there is some merit to what you say. However, I think it goes deeper than just an Us vs Them theme. And, that's probably what makes it the biggest conspiracy of all. An actual true to life conspiracy...being exposed in front of our very eyes.

And that's just it too. We see something unfolding before us the likes of which this country has never seen before in its history.

You correctly opine that historically conspiracy websites were generally anti-government, and now the tables appear to have turned. We agree there. However, I don't agree Trump is the reason, but I would agree he just happens to be the benefactor of it. Equally, Trump certainly hasn't discouraged it like so many before him, and this is also a windfall to him.

What we are seeing is that there truly is a deep state, and it's not who everyone thought it was. Common belief previously was to blame "the government", but what we're seeing now is it's individuals who are the puppet masters. These individuals gravitate toward political power, but it's not the political establishment as much as the individuals who are so evil and corrupt. Political power doesn't stop it, but it doesn't create it, not organically anyway.

So, in a way, the Us vs. Them thing is an illusion, an illusion of right vs left, republicans vs democrats, but in reality it's a good (or at least not truly evil) vs truly evil.




posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I think most of us are still anti-government.


Which is why I am often confused by the growing trend of socialism online because all that would do is increase the size and scope of government.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: Chickensalad

I don't actually read Trump's tweets unless someone here points them out to me. I'm not a twitter-er.

I do however think the whole tweet thing is pure genius. What it's done is to steal the spin doctoring from the media; it's taken away their voice. And that is something which sorely needed to happen for this country.

Say what you will about me, but to deny the MSM's strangle hold on public opinion would be a fool's errand.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: ClovenSky
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

How can you say that? I might have believed the illusion of benevolence was crumbling during hussein's tour but if anything the great orange man has rekindled our hope, in the government saving us from the government, and we have lost ground...major ground

all I can say is the people producing this political theatric show are geniuses. They knew the exact time to bring out someone speaking our language. From Q to anon to all of the other brilliantly played chess pieces, it will take us years to get back to where we were...if ever at this point


The people producing the show is the 4th estate. Every speech, every carefully chosen word was designed to appease them.

I disagree with your remarks on government worship. It is because we disliked the government that we chose Trump. All his defenders want is to see him through his terms and to see if he does a good job. Most attacks and criticisms of him are media and mob derived.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You wasted a lot of characters to say #e that naught to do with the OP.

Y'all trying to change the subject again.

Just throw in a "Orange Man Messiah" and move on.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

And, I would hope that you (and others) know I am also very anti-government.

I'm not a Trump boot licker either, but it's pretty obvious to me what the alternative would have meant. Pure disaster.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I know good sir. I am probably completely off base but something just stinks to high heaven. I also think that we were at a major turning point in turning the tide against this completely soul crushing and society destroying PC/SJW culture. Maybe we are starting to swing in the other direction. I just see a supposed hero jumping on the end pendulum and guiding it as it starts its downward momentum, forcing the path somewhere that will not be good for us. I hope I am wrong, I really do. I just can't believe that this system will reform itself. Has reality ever presented itself to you in such an easy manner?



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: Chickensalad

Don't answer, I've seen your posts. No need.



Wow, the Original Poster of this thread said that? After decrying how one sided things are.

You crystalized part of the problem. People want to talk AT others they disagree with rather than TO them.

How do we change that?

You are also part of the equation.

edit on 3-8-2019 by pavil because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: DBCowboy

Ahhh,my favorite of the 3 idiots has finally graced us with his
presence. I did defend your honor here on this play thread.


MAMA always liked him best.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: Chickensalad

I worked out long to skip over a politics thread.
I clicked on this as I saw an older name not the usual same and I mean EXACT same members making a thread.

Many feel the site has been so damaged by politics and I believe the solution is a simple one:
Bill never reinstated the Block forum option from the last time he rejigged the site outlay just before the last election.

I asked him once if we can add it back and he said he's adding it back again soon but he seemed to disappear from here so I guess the end user customizing their experience didn't happen again.

Shame I think more moderate members with special interests in the other forums would still be posting, but the thug-war in politics has made it undesirable to wade through to get to your choice of subjects.

I read paranormal and have to force myself to glaze of the orange ball that utterly dominates the recent page.
I admit I will smack an extremist if they vomit their partisanship in BTS. Even then I alert more rather than engage as I'm just too old nowadays to care about other angry people's obsessions and I really don't care what their politics and religion are.
Could you imagine IRL screaming in peoples faces your opinion all day? They would think think you mad.

Best option is to see how it started, it would be better if SO would allow us to again enjoy the forum we want and not have members flooded out by a certain group with interest in only one thing.



In a nutshell 👍👍👍

Me love you long time Zazz.

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posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: Chickensalad
a reply to: DBCowboy

You wasted a lot of characters to say #e that naught to do with the OP.

Y'all trying to change the subject again.

Just throw in a "Orange Man Messiah" and move on.


All you're doing is validating my point.

You cannot use reason, logic, insults no longer work, so you're stuck with a false premise that has been refuted.


In a way it is rather sad.

I like a good fight from time to time, but finding a worthy opponent is becomming increasingly rare.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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It was a while back when Fukushima first blew.


It dominated ATS for quite a while......nothing but threads about nuclear power, nuclear disasters, etc. It was exactly the same thing we see today..... sides lined up on their positions, people were claiming Japanese government cover-ups. Pro nuclear shills were trying 24/7 to downplay the disaster.


ATS today is exactly the same as it was during the initial phase of Fukushima as it is about Trump today.


Same story, different day, different cast........pretty much the same type of story.
edit on R372019-08-03T09:37:34-05:00k378Vam by RickinVa because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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The chief take away here is users complaining that Politics have damaged ATS, who's to say that beyond users own OPINION?

Did any of you realize that this post was created with an echo chamber already installed on the user? That anything Trump is suddenly an echo chamber?

Probably because over 90% of media is Anti-Trump.

Did it ever occure to some of you that Trump support is NORMAL, that what left wingnuts perceive as echo chambers aren't actually echo chambers at all, but REAL WORLD SUPPORT?

LMFAO, Seriously, the drum beat of Anti-Trump narrative is so pervasive that leftist must rationalize anything pro TRUMP as echo chambers because Hollywood and Liberal media say so.

Furthermore, POLITICS FALL UNDER CONSPIRACY THEORY as well YOU FOOLS!!!

New World orders, DeepState, who pulls the strings, the real powers, skull and bones, all of these pull at the conspiratorial strings, to deny that just reinforces the notions that leftwingnut echo chambers really make leftist delusional and rightfully so.

No, this site has been really good at what it does and kudos to the moderators for having to clean up the mess we make every day, I honestly don't think they get enough praise.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: Chickensalad

Don't answer, I've seen your posts. No need.



Wow, the Original Poster of this thread said that? After decrying how one sided things are.

You crystalized part of the problem. People want to talk AT others they disagree with rather than TO them.

How do we change that?

You are also part of the equation.


Did you not see what the title or the OP was?

Hint: It's about how ATS has become a govt loving, Trump boot licking echo-chamber.
Keep up man, we're only about 10 pages into you #s defending your about-face.




posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

But in the before times, we all knew and eagerly espoused the idea that our government would never reform itself. That another approach would be needed to clear the swamp.

What if they knew how distrusted the media was becoming and used that distrust against ourselves, or at least against a portion of the sheep that knew politics and government were only there to enrich themselves at the expense of us sheep. So they knew the greatest resistance was constitutionalists and small government advocators. They gave their greatest threat exactly what they wanted, a savior.....and we fell/are falling for it.

There is one great thing about this whole scenario, time will tell.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

If the witch had won/stolen the 2016 election,I was bugging out.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123

Did you post that with confidence?
So proud.

Y'all know who I voted for?


Keep posting guys.




posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

I don't see Trump as the panacea, or as the final solution and savior. However, my hope is he will be able to awaken enough people to the corruption and lies that people will finally rise up and say "Enough!!"



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: Chickensalad
a reply to: Arnie123

Did you post that with confidence?
So proud.

Y'all know who I voted for?


Keep posting guys.

Confidence not needed, its basic fact

I don't care who you voted for.

Yes, we'll keep posting because we love making an ass out of the trolling OP.
edit on 3-8-2019 by Arnie123 because: Heh



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I'd comment, but it would be an echo.

ATS, more or less, is the same as every other social platform save for the filtering by the owners of any opinions. That's a huge deal.

Why do FB, Twitter and YT ECT, feel they have to "protect" us from views we disagree with or find distasteful?

You really can't argue those other platforms have not become more echo'ey than ATS. Those other places ban people for their beliefs and statements.




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