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ATS Has Become an Echo Chamber for Trump

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posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: XCrycek
I've been here during Occupy Wall Street, I've been here during Obama presidency with another nickname.
If you criticized Obama politics back then people would quickly label you a racist.
It's the same shyte with Trump today.
If you dont drink Trump kool-aid than you're a dem rat, commy, deepstate, anti American or whatever.
But yeah. Many of the big shots on ATS have quit and that's a damn shame.
ATS was once a prime doom porn site.
Now it's just a mudpit


Excellent point....

If you were white and didn't support Obama...........racist
If you are white and support Trump........racist




posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:00 AM
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The sad part is, everyone knows the 2 party system was designed to keep the power in place regardless of who wins. Yet every single election, "this one is different!!!" It is really pretty simple to see what he is about by digging a little. You thought the boyscout deepstate was bad, his backers invented the deep state.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: Chickensalad

I have been trying to categorize the growing discomfort and constant urge to cringe lately. At least for me, this really helped define the angst.

I am not mad about left vs right or the balance on this site. The thing that causes so much angst is that it was US versus THEM. The sheep versus the controllers. The common man striving for freedom against our oppressive government. This really has been the first time in my meager memory that we lost a portion of our base to THEM.

Now we have a portion of our base supporting the government as if there is a hero at the helm and the government is now a tool of justice that will save us from ..... itself. The government will now save us from the government. And people are lapping it up.

There is no question of this hero being a false Messiah. Everything they do is fully encouraged and supported. Anything negative that is brought up about our new and improved Messiah is demonized.

It Is Just So Fricken Weird. Like entering the twilight zone.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: pavil
Explain to me why, according to Democrats, there are so many more Democrat leaning people in the Country, that they are so underrepresented on ATS? Is there some barrier that is stopping them from participating here? Is there not enough Anti-Trump people in the world who are willing to voice their opinions?

Most of us on the Right relish opportunities to debate and discuss our viewpoints with people who disagree with us. Hell many of us have articles bookmarked on our phones just to show to those who dont Believe certain claims we make.

Frankly, the caliber of our opposition here is lacking. Where are the Left leaning intellectuals who are willing to counter our arguements and rebut them with solidly researched and sourced replies? Surely if your arguements are that valid, you should be willing to step into the proverbial Lions Den.

Bring your A game and you will find some good conversations. Start with name calling and . ... ...well, it's the Internet.

In short, ATS is what we all make it. It's up to everyone.





I think you just hit the nail squarely on the head. There is no rebuttal to some of the things that have happened, so crying about the venue is the only avenue left. If there was a coherent logical argument to be had, they would make it. There isn't, so we get what we have here today. Scared little kids who want safe spaces and puppies. But someone needs to come in to take care of the puppies later, that's too much work.

fantastic post.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: TheGreatWork

Until humans change the format will not matter.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: XCrycek
I've been here during Occupy Wall Street, I've been here during Obama presidency with another nickname.
If you criticized Obama politics back then people would quickly label you a racist.
It's the same shyte with Trump today.
If you dont drink Trump kool-aid than you're a dem rat, commy, deepstate, anti American or whatever.
But yeah. Many of the big shots on ATS have quit and that's a damn shame.
ATS was once a prime doom porn site.
Now it's just a mudpit


Excellent point....

If you were white and didn't support Obama...........racist
If you are white and support Trump........racist



You make it sound like there is an Anti-White thing happening in America and the World. Surely the Media doesn't infuence that?

But if we mention that........ Racist.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: Chickensalad

You committed suicide by "questioning trumps authority on ats"


Good luck



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: Chickensalad

If you don't like ATS,then get out of here or try making it better.
I get so sick of people whining this site sucks.


He's probably get a better reception on Facebook or with the Twits.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: Chickensalad

I worked out long to skip over a politics thread.
I clicked on this as I saw an older name not the usual same and I mean EXACT same members making a thread.

Many feel the site has been so damaged by politics and I believe the solution is a simple one:
Bill never reinstated the Block forum option from the last time he rejigged the site outlay just before the last election.

I asked him once if we can add it back and he said he's adding it back again soon but he seemed to disappear from here so I guess the end user customizing their experience didn't happen again.

Shame I think more moderate members with special interests in the other forums would still be posting, but the thug-war in politics has made it undesirable to punch and kick your way through Orange Balls to get to your choice of subjects.

I read paranormal and have to force myself to glaze of the orange ball that utterly dominates the recent page.
I admit I will smack an extremist if they vomit their partisanship in BTS. Even then I alert more rather than engage as I'm just too old nowadays to care about other angry people's obsessions and I really don't care what their politics and religion are.
Could you imagine IRL screaming in peoples faces your opinion all day? They would think think you mad.

Best option is to see how it started, it would be better if SO would allow us to again enjoy the forum we want and not have members flooded out by a certain group with interest in only one thing.
edit on 3-8-2019 by zazzafrazz because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

And again I find myself having to break my personal rule against
posting directly to you.
Trump supporter here and I'm a woman and by your standards also
a deplorable.I am going to need another cup of coffee...



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: Chickensalad

I never said that...

But at this time, there's so much chiming to the forefront its not being hidden as much.

Both sides are corrupt.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: ClovenSky


There is no question of this hero being a false Messiah. Everything they do is fully encouraged and supported. Anything negative that is brought up about our new and improved Messiah is demonized.


Please.....

Obama wasn't considered a Messiah? I must have imagined that.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Chickensalad

You committed suicide by "questioning trumps authority on ats"


Good luck


wow, this is intelligent discourse?

it used to be that if you thought you had a better idea than the guy you are replying to, you said something intelligent and had a conversation. A post like this just says "I know I suck, I just like the chip dip here, so I keep coming back".



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: gallop

Maybe a sad thread but I needed a good laugh and need coffee.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

That's what I don't get.
Why all of a sudden this guy means that we should trust the whole lot. Or at least his lot.

Just why?

Propaganda works folks.
This thread is proof.


edit on 3-8-2019 by Chickensalad because: not enough beer, ohhh



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: RickinVa
When we build a equation out of your post, then we can strike the redundant "white"...

In the light of that people of color are also deemed racist if they support Trump, I learned.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: TheGreatWork

Until humans change the format will not matter.


Very true. And that will not happen until the illusion is broken. When people show up to a rally of either side, they have already lost. The left/right fighting in the streets at these rally's is planned, completely. But they do not see it.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: odzeandennz

The thing is, is that polticians were already Trump before Trump was a politician. Most all politicians are and have been as egotistical as Trump forever, but people were sold the idea of them not the person.

Most of those that have admiration for Trump or what he is doing, or whats been done because of him, are just fan girling because the fact that is being exposed. Too many are still too blind though.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: pavil

Are you screaming racism ism ism ism....pull yourself up by your bootstraps and stop blaming "the man"



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: Chickensalad

I worked out long to skip over a politics thread.
I clicked on this as I saw an older name not the usual same and I mean EXACT same members making a thread.

There is a reason many feel the site has been so damaged by politics and I believe the solution is a simple one. Bill never reinstated the Block forum option from the last time he rejigged the site outlay just before the last election.
I asked him once and he said he's adding it back back but he seemed to disappear from here so I guess the end user customizing their experience didn't happen again.
Shame I think more moderate members with social interest in the other forums would still be posting, but the thugwar in politics has made it undesirable to wade through to get to your choice of subjects.

I read paranormal and have to force myself to glaze of the orange ball that utterly dominates the recent page.
I admit will smack an extremist if they vomit their partisanship in BTS. Even then I alert more rather than engage as I'm just too old nowadays to care about other angry people's obsessions and I really don't care who what their politics and religion are. Could you imagine IRL screaming in peoples faces your opinion all day? They would think think you mad.

Best option is to see how it started, it would be better if SO would allow us to again enjoy the forum we want and not have members flooded out by a certain group with interest in only one thing.


this is a good point. If you choose to put yourself into the fray, you will get dirty. But, if you stay out of the limelight, and keep your political opinions to yourself, you have a better chance of not upsetting half of those you converse with. Like with entertainers. When Bruce Springsteen sings, he's awesome. When he gets political, he sounds like a spoiled little girl.(to me) If he didn't share his political views, he would never alienate any fans, but he chose to do so. it's a choice and the results matter. He accepts that, and good for him. But others don't and they seem to enjoy that.




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