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I went to the Trump rally in Cincinnati today . Want to hear a story ?

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posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

This just seems rather silly. I can go out and find a knuckle dragging Trumpette any day of the week and record an embarrassing interaction with them on my phone and post it here. Does it prove anything more substantial that what you've shown here?

I had no idea you lives so close though (assuming you live in/around the Cinci area). If you'd like I'd be happy to sit down and chat in person over our political differences if you're really so keen to have a 'heart-to-heart' with someone who can reliably argue against your positions.




posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: MisterSpock
You must be new to video games.

When you talk to storyline characters, they have a lot of dialog.

When you try to talk to NPC's, they just move about randomly and end up getting stuck in a wall.


That guy had a most punchable face too. OP has the patience of Gandhi.



I was surprised that a self-admitted commie with a bullhorn was willing to calmly discuss the issues. He seemed more intelligent and well informed than your typical leftist, and didn’t seem to be running on pure emotion. That said, I would almost certainly disagree with him on every major issue.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: RadioRobert
You found a Commie! Who doesn't like Bernie... Bernie isn't far enough left for this guy! Wow.



That's too funny. I think he's logic train derailed with the Baltimore comment by Sanders. You could see his brain wrap around the thought that Bernie must be racist for saying that.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: Fallingdown

This just seems rather silly. I can go out and find a knuckle dragging Trumpette any day of the week and record an embarrassing interaction with them on my phone and post it here. Does it prove anything more substantial that what you've shown here?

I had no idea you lives so close though (assuming you live in/around the Cinci area). If you'd like I'd be happy to sit down and chat in person over our political differences if you're really so keen to have a 'heart-to-heart' with someone who can reliably argue against your positions.


The two of you should do that and post the "change my mind" here.

If we can't talk to each other about our policy differences, we are never going to solve some of these problems. Some will need 60 to 70% support of the electorte. The only way to do that is talk it out and compromise.

Let's get that video!



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: MisterSpock

I don’t play video games and I read your reply three times .

Huh?

Could you give a brother a solid ?


At the risk of answering twice since I'm just starting to read ...

When you play RPG video games, your character is in a world that has all kinds of people in it to make it look alive, but most of them are very limited in what they will do because they can't all be programmed to be fully interactive (the files for that would just blow most computers and processors up), so there are two types of characters yours can interact with -- main storyline characters and what are called NPCs.

The main story characters are the important ones who are given scripted lines of dialogue. They'll talk to your character. Give you quests. You might have dialogue options to take with them. The more important they are to the overall game, the more options you will have with them. Some are so important, they will join you in the game.

But NPCs are mostly window dressing like the random chickens or cats or even houses that fill up the world around you to make it look living. You might hear them chatting each other up as you walk by, but you'll notice they say the same things to each other as you walk by them headed the other way ... just two women having the same chat about the same rumors, or that one shopkeeper endlessly shouting "Dwarven crafts! Fine dwarven crafts!" every time you wander past. If you try to interact with them, they either ignore you outright, wander off aimlessly, or they might have a canned line of dialogue that's always the same, always short and intended to brush you off.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: Wayfarer


I can go out and find a knuckle dragging Trumpster.


Did you read my OP ? I was nice and civil to everyone and didn’t get much of that in return . Like I said the left was doing a slow burn .

Since there’s a big difference between us .

Both sides need to concentrate on manners and respect .

“Can’t we all just get along”
edit on 2-8-2019 by Fallingdown because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut
Valid points? What were they. I did not hear any. This man is an admitted Communist who owns guns. In none of the Communist countries do the general public have guns. Now I consider this man very dangerous to our Constitution and very way of life in this country. It is my feeling that he can pick his sorry azz up and move it to where he has the form of government he wants. DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE MINE.

This guy actually further cements my belief that a real bloody fight is soon to be upon us. Again Senator McCarthy does not look like a nut now!! Those hearings should have deported half of Hollywood to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic long ago. It would have made the Soviet Union a film Mecca and given them some honest income.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: Fallingdown
Sorry Falling when it comes to Communists there can be no civil discussion. The culture and policies are 180 degrees apart. It can only be to the winner go the spoils of power. Things are going to get real ugly in this country.

I do not fathom Communists going power. Coming into my suburban area and telling me someone of color is going to now live in my house cause I am a white privileged male. If they do they are going to be met with a WHOLE BUNCH OF 00 buckshot and a plethora of rifle calibers. These people are serious and will more than likely stop at nothing to do it.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: Wookiep

And the right has been programmed that calling people monkeys and telling them to go back to their own countries is ok. We are going backwards in civility SMH


Do you know why? Because it doesn't matter anymore. Everything we do is racist in some way just because we aren't on the left and for no other good reason.

Let's examine Sen. Spartacus from the debate the other night. He openly called the countries the illegals are coming from sh1tholes on stage, on CNN to an audience of people who were outraged, OUTRAGED when Trump did the same thing not a few months before. Heck, Sen. Spartacus himself was outraged that Trump called those countries sh!tholes. Do you know why all the outrage? The excuse was because calling those countries sh!tholes was racist ... obviously.

But if doing such a thing is racist, then why no outrage when Sen. Spartacus now calls those countries sh!tholes openly on national TV?

It's not because those countries are or aren't sh!tholes, it's simply because Sen. Spartacus is a good little lefty while Trump is not.

And that's all racism means these days. You're not on the left. And that's what the left has done by playing the race card the way they have.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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Commie with a bull horn. I'll leave it there.

lol.


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posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Wayfarer
This guy does not want to discuss policy or our country as it stands. To get what he wants he wants to burn the house down. Communism is not the answer for anything. There will always be poor. Utopia is when we die not on this planet. One can ease pain help feed but you cant make everyone equal in pay grade. Every where 15$ and hour is tried it loses jobs and puts more burden on those left still working. I have a business I know. I employ 3 people at 21$, 25$ and 35$ per hour. My business has to produce 81 dollars per hour just for employees. I did not even add in social security I have to match. Lets add in rent supplies and Insurance companies that force my prices down.

It is just not that simple to say the worker needs better wages and wave the red working class flag of Communism. It will never solve anything as this lunatic babbles on about. It has to be up to the individual to seek what they want not for government to regulate an even playing field. It just will never work.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: Wayfarer


I can go out and find a knuckle dragging Trumpster.


Did you read my OP ? I was nice and civil to everyone and didn’t get much of that in return . Like I said the left was doing a slow burn .

Since there’s a big difference between us .

Both sides need to concentrate on manners and respect .

“Can’t we all just get along”


Yes I did indeed, and watched the video you linked. I can see how my response may have come across as aggressively antagonistic towards you, but that was not my intent. I'm just saying there's not much value in debating someone who isn't prepared or capable of making good rebuttals (from either sides perspective). If the goal is just to make another pat on the back pro-Trump echo-chamber post (which I don't think was your intent) then it serves its purpose, but like I already mentioned all you accomplished was reinforcing your own beliefs by selectively picking debates with non-debaters.

For example, I have fun participating in ATS political threads for the wealth of pro-Trump debaters here, and for the most part the quality of debate (mud pit notwithstanding). I've been out in the street during protests and have bandied words with Trump supporters but in that kind of environment with emotions charged so high I make no effort to claim its reasonable debate being discussed in good-will with each other.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: Ansuzrune
a reply to: Wayfarer
This guy does not want to discuss policy or our country as it stands. To get what he wants he wants to burn the house down. Communism is not the answer for anything. There will always be poor. Utopia is when we die not on this planet. One can ease pain help feed but you cant make everyone equal in pay grade. Every where 15$ and hour is tried it loses jobs and puts more burden on those left still working. I have a business I know. I employ 3 people at 21$, 25$ and 35$ per hour. My business has to produce 81 dollars per hour just for employees. I did not even add in social security I have to match. Lets add in rent supplies and Insurance companies that force my prices down.

It is just not that simple to say the worker needs better wages and wave the red working class flag of Communism. It will never solve anything as this lunatic babbles on about. It has to be up to the individual to seek what they want not for government to regulate an even playing field. It just will never work.


Um, well, yeah I agree that the individual in the video likely didn't want to discuss those subjects in detail (hence why he was for the most part shouting sound bites into his megaphone), nor was he that prepared to talk about them it seemed. Does he represent me, or all liberals/democrats? Just as I don't use some video example of a Trump supporter foaming at the mouth screaming racial slurs as an example of how all the Trump supporters are; it seems rather disingenuous to take much value from calling to light some doofus with a megaphone.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: Fallingdown

That's not a whataboutism. Whataboutism would be me saying what about West Virginia and that opiate/meth filled welfare state. I admit I am guilty of whataboutism when I brought that up in other threads. Not a fan of whataboutism and will try to refrain from doing that in the future.


To which I’d reply, What about the 50 most populous urban areas in the nation, only four of which have Republican mayors? Every single big city infamous for crime, trash, rats and homelessness has a Democrat mayor.

And while West Virginia does have the highest rate of meth/opiates addiction according to the CDC, the two states with the next highest rates are the far more populous Ohio and Pennsylvania, followed by the District of Columbia.

Ohio voted for every Democratic prez candidate who has won since 1960. Pennsylvania voted six straight times for the Dem prez candidate until 2016.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

Don’t worry about the tone.

As the saying goes “you couldn’t hurt my feelings with a stick” .

I did ask random Trump supporters. They didn’t want to be filmed but would engage in discussion. A couple of them were idiots . One was so patriotic he would’ve made Charlie Daniels look bad . Other people had a general grasp of what’s going on . ( must watch fox ?) lol

( Those talks are all very brief encounters ).

The only people who would be filmed were the bikers. Because I walked up to them and said “I know you guys aren’t scared” .

But when I talk to other people on the left or even said hi. All I got were glares and grunts with a couple exceptions and he was one of them .

So I guess the communist was just potluck .
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posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: Wayfarer

Don’t worry about the tone.

As the saying goes “you couldn’t hurt my feelings with the stick” .

I did ask random Trump supporters. They didn’t want to be filmed but would engage in discussion. A couple of them were idiots . One was so patriotic he would’ve made Charlie Daniels look bad . Other people had a general grasp of what’s going on . ( must watch fox ?) lol

( Those talks are all very brief encounters ).

The only people who would be filmed were the bikers. Because I walked up to them and said “I know you guys aren’t scared” .

But when I talk to other people on the left or even said hi. All I got were glares and grunts with a couple exceptions and he was one of them .

So I guess the communist was just potluck .


Well you sounded very reasonable and friendly so I'd wager it had nothing to do with you but rather I think a lot of folks are wary of being filmed on account of 'doxxing' culture being so prevalent. Also I'd bet that with emotions so highly charged many folks could have been biting their tongues out of a desire not to get into a more serious altercation. I know I myself have to take special care to not go running my mouth when my hackles are raised because I know I can be unreasonable and unfocused and of no value in the realm of polite discourse; perhaps some of those folks felt similarly.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: Fallingdown

This just seems rather silly. I can go out and find a knuckle dragging Trumpette any day of the week and record an embarrassing interaction with them on my phone and post it here. Does it prove anything more substantial that what you've shown here?

I had no idea you lives so close though (assuming you live in/around the Cinci area). If you'd like I'd be happy to sit down and chat in person over our political differences if you're really so keen to have a 'heart-to-heart' with someone who can reliably argue against your positions.


Do it.. let us see the evidence.

And moreso, let us see how we respond to it... not with indignation I suspect, but the same ire that anyone would.

Ahh but therein lies the difference.. 9 out of 10 times you try, you'll encounter someone with a rational thought process.. unlike 1 out of 10 times if the roles are reversed.

Sorry, but your side has proven this time and time again. Have not a clue.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut

Jesus, just reading your very wrong post, does my head in.

You swallowed the CNN bait, hook line and sinker...

It's not Trump who has to change, in this respect...



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

So then what would you call America, the country with the highest prison population on earth? The United States is a great country but people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.


Are you saying we’re not the greatest country on Earth? Tell me, what would this world be like if the United States had never existed, or if it were wiped out by an asteroid tomorrow? Which nation or nations would stand up to China, Russia and the jihadis? Look around your home and workplace; just about everything you see (except for the bathroom— thanks, Brits!) was invented by Americans. Virtually every aspect of information technology you and everyone else enjoys was invented by Americans. It’s so awful here that we have at least four times as many immigrants as second-place Germany. Folks from all over the world are paying thousands of dollars to the cartels, risking their lives and getting raped to walk across Mexico for a chance to live here. At least 100,000 a month. And about the same number arrive here legally. Some 300,000 Chinese students spend a lot of money to be educated in our universities. Yes, we have enormous problems and countless flaws, but seriously, what other nation is greater? Hell, we landed men on the freakin’ moon 50 years ago and recently did a flyby of Pluto. Try to put things in perspective for goodness sake. We’re a nation the size of a continent with the third-largest population in the world; a highly diverse population by the way. If you’re an American, you can actually be proud of a thing or two we’ve done. If you’re not American, please remember we’ve done all the heavy lifting since WWII to protect this world from nations even more evil than you seem to think we are.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: gallop

Are we in the mudpit....checking....yep, mudpit, good!!!

Do you have any idea how ignorant you sound?

I'm liking the conversation between Fallingdown and Wayfarer but here you come galloping in with your non-facts.

Just shut up dude!! You are not going to convince me or anybody else you got a big chart there where you interviewed each and every person in the US and can come up with these arbitrary numbers.

9 out of 10 random Trumpers are rational, 1 out of 10 libtards are rational....blow it out of your ***

Peace
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