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Have We No Decency? A Response to President Trump

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posted on Aug, 1 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

yaup just don't talk about pedo priests . They speak christian values , do they believe what they preach ?




posted on Aug, 1 2019 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254

The escalation of racialized rhetoric from the President of the United States has evoked responses from all sides of the political spectrum. On one side, African American leaders have led the way in rightfully expressing outrage. On the other, those aligned with the President seek to downplay the racial overtones of his attacks, or remain silent.

As faith leaders who serve at Washington National Cathedral ¬– the sacred space where America gathers at moments of national significance – we feel compelled to ask: After two years of President Trump’s words and actions, when will Americans have enough?

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Well the responses to this should be fun. What's got a stronger hold over ATS? Christianity or Trump?

It should be noted that this isn't some Left Wing church. In fact, Newt Gingrich is a very involved member of the Cathedral.

Is this an indication that Trump is losing the religious vote?

If so that doesn't bode well for him in 2020. The Right have relied on the Christian vote since at least the old, crazy, racist (aka Reagan) got elected as President.
The left knows Trump is not a racist just as we do...But it's a lie they can hang their hats on hoping to get traction since nothing else works for them...



posted on Aug, 1 2019 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254

The escalation of racialized rhetoric from the President of the United States has evoked responses from all sides of the political spectrum. On one side, African American leaders have led the way in rightfully expressing outrage. On the other, those aligned with the President seek to downplay the racial overtones of his attacks, or remain silent.

As faith leaders who serve at Washington National Cathedral ¬– the sacred space where America gathers at moments of national significance – we feel compelled to ask: After two years of President Trump’s words and actions, when will Americans have enough?

Source

Well the responses to this should be fun. What's got a stronger hold over ATS? Christianity or Trump?

It should be noted that this isn't some Left Wing church. In fact, Newt Gingrich is a very involved member of the Cathedral.

Is this an indication that Trump is losing the religious vote?

If so that doesn't bode well for him in 2020. The Right have relied on the Christian vote since at least the old, crazy, racist (aka Reagan) got elected as President.


Trump wont lose the religious vote. You think those people are going to vote for the Atheist, baby murdering Left?

Lol.



posted on Aug, 1 2019 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: 10uoutlaw
a reply to: Sookiechacha

yaup just don't talk about pedo priests . They speak christian values , do they believe what they preach ?


Not pedos priests. Homosexual infiltrators.



posted on Aug, 1 2019 @ 08:49 PM
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As an atheist myself; why does it matter what some church thinks? It sounds like they are doing the smart thing and playing hard to get with Trump. And it will probably work; they'll get him to wooo them over rather than just take their vote for granted. It's not as if the Religious right are going to support the pro-Abortion Democrat candidate whom ever that may be.

Now if only the Black and Hispanic communities played hard to get with the Democrats they might actually get some of the legislation and support they think is important.



posted on Aug, 1 2019 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04



Depends. Can every church leader now tell their congregation who they should or should not vote for?



Are you threatening the church's non profit tax status for criticizing the President of the United States, for calling some US citizens less than human, and certain immigrants "an infestation"?


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posted on Aug, 1 2019 @ 09:39 PM
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I find this church just now catching on to America losing it's decency hilarious. Is this place ran by monks that never go outside? We live in a country full of people with tattoos, piercings in every part of their body, giant dickholes in their earlobes, abortions every 5 minutes, state run casinos, half the country has been divorced, and the state became drug dealers for tax money, priests are raping kids...BUT Trump said a few things that were a tad harsh and now we have lost all sense of decency. LMFAO,! Oh the irony!
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posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 07:52 AM
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Lol. The title of your OP is have we no decency. Then you quote an article that imediately frames the situation as "african American leaders rightfully defending themselves" while trump supports try and water down trumps words.

Have you no decency??!? It's not racist to point out Baltimore is struggling. He doesn't say the city is infested with brown people, I know that's what all the dems seem to have heard. He is calling out the dem leaders who are focusing on attacking him, and neglecting their own. How can they claim such moral rightness when their record is exposed??? So because trump says Baltimore has rats (and a lot of people agree, even before it was racist to do so).

The behavior of the left is abhorrent. What an intellectually dishonest bunch of tripe.

a reply to: Xcalibur254



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Your post is gibberish. Either they can tell their congregation who to vote for or they can't, which is it?

Please source and quote Trump calling US citizens less than human.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: Duderino

I see they fail to mention any instances of what they do not like. Anyone who is calling out Trump on harmful rhetoric is a moron whose opinion is less than worthless. Hypocrisy is disgusting.



posted on Aug, 2 2019 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: JohnS23

Makes sense to me



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 11:07 AM
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Have We No Decency?

Evidently not.

And why would we?

Bush was a complete docile President. He was eloquent, refined, and mostly very soft spoken.

Just like Trump, the media called him a racist.

Just like Trump, the lame stream media attacked him 24/7 with out just cause.

Unlike Trump, he bent over and didn't fight back.

You hate Trump because Trump doesn't sit there and take it; which is exactly why Trump is so loved.

That's the bottom line.

Trump isn't racist, he's simply not a leftist stooge.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: Duderino
And before people think what this church put out is an isolated event, here is another rebuke issued a couple of days ago from 11 protestant and catholic churches in Maryland.

Letter to the President


Mr. President, as religious leaders we implore you: in the name of all that is good, healthy and decent, stop putting people down. Enough of the harmful rhetoric that angers and discourages the people and communities you are called to serve – more than you know.
Peope from baltimore crying, yes, ANOTHER ISOLATED EVENT.



posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04




Please source and quote Trump calling US citizens less than human.


Please. Trump has called US citizen's pigs, dogs, rats and infestations.



Either they can tell their congregation who to vote for or they can't, which is it?


Where, in the open letter from the Washington National Cathedral, do church leaders tell their congregation to "vote" for any candidate? Asking their congregation to use their right to free speech to speak out against policies and rhetoric that offend their Christian doctrine is not the same as promoting candidates.


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posted on Aug, 3 2019 @ 02:42 PM
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Yet still no source....

What a shock.

Please use the exact quotes of Trump.

I do think he called Rosie something along those lines. He's so mean, isn't he? Him taunting individuals doesn't mean much. Look at what people call him.


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posted on Aug, 4 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I do love the outrage at the idea that the president said cummings is doing a poor job because his district is filthy, dangerous, and rat infested. Meanwhile there's no outrage from these same people when democrats continually run city after city into the ground. No outrage when they call their political opponents nazi's. No outrage when they continually say trump is a stupid big orange baby. No, that's not being a dick, what's being a dick is pointing out that a representative is not doing their job well. Yep.

How do you guys not see this double standard? The dems and the left are not civil at all! ANTIFA goes around beating up journalists, trump supporters, innocent bystanders, etc with hardly a peep. Reverse the roles. Imagine some group called the white power princes or something was assaulting journalists and democrat supporters and random individuals. Imagine the outrage you'd see from democrats and the media.
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posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 02:01 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254>>> It's just that Trump is better than the dem alternatives, every one of them. And the progressives are embracing racism now as well, which is why they're going to the old strategy of accusing your enemy of doing what you do. Sexual assaults, Russian collusion, corruption, now racism.



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:20 AM
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Wow. Just wow.

A bunch of people who loudly and often proclaim their disgust for the Bible, who have probably never sat down and read it, are now suddenly aligned with a few fools who want to speak for God.

I'll say it again. Wow!

Here's the thing: There is no Christian leader on this earth (unless you want to count the Pope, and even his leadership is tenuous). Matthew 23:9:

And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.


Straight out of Jesus' mouth. These are not leaders of the Church... they are servants of the Church. There's a reason we call preachers "ministers"... because their primary calling is to minister to, i.e. help; assist; encourage, others. Their role does not include directing politics. They may speak out against political action, but that is their opinion and holds whatever weight each church member individually chooses to ascribe to it. Anyone who understands Christianity and takes it seriously knows that. We have one and only one Being we are beholden to: Yahweh, I AM THAT I AM, the Creator of all, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, God Almighty.

We praise Jesus because God said He is worthy of praise, and because Jesus allows us to come directly to God in prayer through His sacrifice.

This is why the radical left cannot stand Christianity. In their minds, people are to do as they are told by other people above them. Christianity refutes that, and they just can't wrap their minds around that concept. They need a chain of command to work through, so they have more chances to find someone in that chain that agrees with them. We, Christians, do not have a chain of command and we are not looking for God to agree with us. The whole point is for us to agree with Him.

Everything else is just empty words without meaning.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 05:25 AM
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Lol get triggered until these lefty pricks have something substantial to bring to the table I will continue to ignore the bull #e



posted on Aug, 5 2019 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I much prefer this approach to the problem:

We Need To Be Christian First, Patriot Second

This is not about President Trump. It is about us. About our behavior as followers of Jesus. About our words. About our attitudes. About our priorities.

It seems that many of us have lost sight of what it means to be Christian, as if anything now goes in the name of Jesus.

It seems that many of us now justify almost any kind of ugly rhetoric, as long as it is in the name of country and of God, seemingly in that order.

Trump isn't the problem. Trump cannot force anyone to be obnoxious or rude or hateful. Only we as individuals make that choice.

Nor does everyone agree -- including Black pastors -- that Trump is a racist slug deserving only contempt and outrage. In fact, Trump just held a second White House meeting with Black pastors to address the problems in the Black community.

So, again, it comes back to each individual seeing what they want to see and acting as they want to act. Trump is an excuse at best.




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