a reply to: astra001uk
Spot on, every nation should have control of it's own infrastructure especially those such as water which is not only necessary for health but for
sanitation, flood prevention and drought management.
The problem is that both of our major party's have there own problem's, we have the Conservatives (they are really two party's in one the Tory's
being the older and the real party and the Conservatives being the Newer front man party behind which the Tory's hide since no one would vote for the
Tory's if they made there real intention's clear to the voters) and the Labour party, both have there good and bad point's.
On balance though the Tory's are the more evil of the two by a long shot, they believe in SMALL government, letting business do what it want's, no
safety net and deregulation though they know to pursue there fundamental ideals in full would alienate about ninety percent of the electorate so they
are always careful about what they do - less careful about it however during there recent stint in power.
The Labour party takes it's nationalization dream perhaps a little too far and whenever they are set to gain power (Old and Current Labour not the
defunct false Labour that was called New Labour - Blair and Brown) the money men find way's to hide or move there asset's were the Labour government
can then not bring tax to bare upon them - something Labour have long tried to put a stop too but which the House or Lord's and back handers in
parliament always thwarted them from doing.
If Labour get's back into power soon then there will be an instant and artificial recession generated by the movement of money out of the nation by
these money men, IF the conservatives stay in power under Johnson then Britain will become a tax haven for the rich with growing inequality between
the poor and the rich, over the last 10 years we have seen an increase in homelessness due to Tory policy's and inhumanity of over one hundred
Just today I watched a debate on the BBC in which a news presenter kept interrupting a young left wing commenter and did not interrupt a right wing
commenter, in substance the left wing commenter a young lady was absolutely spot on but SHE was not speaking what that presenter wanted to have said
on her news segment while the young Right wing commenter WAS speaking what she wanted to have heard on her show.
In fact the young right wing commenter was wrong on his assumption's, he claimed that when we come out of the EU it will mean cheaper food etc but in
fact unless we have stringent regulation in place - and even then - it will mean we as an island return to being a monopolized consumer market, a
captive market in which they can charge pretty much what they want so he was utterly wrong in his claim, take oil prices, when we are a captive market
and the EU does not regulate our oil market petrol prices at the pump's will go up and this will affect transportation costs, add to that the cost of
import's likely to rise as importers take advantage of the captive market we will then present to make as much profit as they can and costs of
everything from utility bill's to the price of bread are set to skyrocket.
Nevertheless I believe we had to come out of the EU, just not Johnson OR may style and the reason is simply, the EU is working a policy were they are
driving a single economy model as there goal, wages across the block to be standardized as much as possible along with consumer prices and this means'
that in the more developed and established old western European nation's wages have to come down but at the moment Germany seems more insulated than
other nation's against this perhaps due to the size of it's population and the veto power this gives it in the short term while conversely the wages
in the old eastern and less developed European nation's will rise as will of course the price of good's in those areas.
So by coming out of the EU we have a chance of stopping our wages from going down to subsistence level's BUT only if we can stop the TORY's whom
other than there own reason's for coming out of the EU (not nationalism they are too greedy for that) have pretty much the same idea as the EU, to
lower our own wages and make us into a wage slave economy - we already more or less are.
And as for the Green's they have the right ideas but not the expertise even if they had a chance of getting into power and that leaves only the
Liberal's as a viable alternative and sadly they are now pretty much taking the place of NEW LABOUR in that there policy's differ very little from
what we may have expected from a Blair type government though they do have one gem that is worthy of note, they want to introduce if they ever have
enough members of parliament and the house of lord's (So it would take many decades to get to this level of support and they do not have it now), a
proportional one vote on voter system were a vote in Lanarkshire would be equal to a vote in Berkshire and MP's would have to have a set number of
votes to win a constituency and not simply a percentage of a constituency's voters OR were MP's value in parliament would represent the NUMBER of
people that voted for them instead of letting a Tory from a rural area with low population have the same or MORE power as a Liberal, Green or Labour
MP from a high population area.
So our politics is pretty messed up and actually most of these government's and would be government's do not have our infrastructure very high on
there agenda, labour however does have it higher on there agenda than the other's even if - well Corbyn need I say more I mean I like the guy but
could he run the country or has he already made a stand based on ideology that may prevent him from ever gaining power even if that mean's some
spook's rigging our elections (like that has never happened before).
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