Are They Here To Serve Man

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: dfnj2015

The thing is the universe is mostly empty space. To find a planet with all the requirements for life is rare. To find intelligent life even more so.
They we're probably super excited when they found us. And then super disappointed when they observed us a bit. The only way we might be able to charm them into reveal their presence is if we could convince them there's at least one human not completely selfish and insane.

This is kind of dumb to say. The Universe could be teaming with intelligent life:

"Extrapolating out to the rest of the galaxy, scientists estimate that the Milky Way could contain upwards of 50 billion planets, 500 million of which could be in their stars' habitable zones. That's a LOT of planets to discover!"

Once you have FTL technology maybe having a "blink drive" is possible. We could have millions of extraterrestrial civilizations capable of visiting Earth.

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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: dfnj2015

The thing is the universe is mostly empty space. To find a planet with all the requirements for life is rare. To find intelligent life even more so.
They we're probably super excited when they found us. And then super disappointed when they observed us a bit. The only way we might be able to charm them into reveal their presence is if we could convince them there's at least one human not completely selfish and insane.

This is kind of dumb to say. The Universe could be teaming with intelligent life:

"Extrapolating out to the rest of the galaxy, scientists estimate that the Milky Way could contain upwards of 50 billion planets, 500 million of which could be in their stars' habitable zones. That's a LOT of planets to discover!"

Once you have FTL technology maybe having a "blink drive" is possible. We could have millions of extraterrestrial civilizations capable of visiting Earth.

darkmatter.fandom.com...

The current thinking is it comes down to exotic forms of matter capable of bending, controlling, or creating gravity waves.

a reply to: dfnj2015

Maybe it's just the case that FTL travel is just a universal impossibility which no race, no matter how technologically advanced, can/has overcome?

a reply to: dfnj2015

That's if you live with the naive assumption habitable zone equals development of higher life. Which is absurd, because without the moon our climate would be so unstable everything living would feel servere survival pressure, ergo would simply have no time to develop culture and with it intelligence.
If you want to make contact with cockroaches sure there might be plenty of possibilities, but human like intelligence, no.

People calling others stupid most of the time are

a reply to: dfnj2015

One of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes.

Can't remember who explained it... Tried to find it, but couldn't. Might have been Dr Michio Kaku... maybe not... I'm probably explaining it wrong. Hopefully the idea is there.

Grass/vegetation eat nutrients in the soil, absorb energy from the sun. Convert all that to a biomass (not sure if that is the right term) in the form of a blade of grass.

Cows eat grass, and convert that grass to denser biomass ... Pack all that energy down into muscles fat and bone...

Then, people eat cows and other mammals which have already processed a bunch of energy in the form of grass or smaller animals... Then people pack all that processed energy into muscles & fat...

So, if you wanted to grow or "raise" a good nutritious meal. One that multiplies quite well ("be fruitful and multiply"). Fatten themselves up. Heals themselves. Houses themselves. We might be a good choice.

Maybe wars are a way to keep the #s down to prevent a culling (rapture?) or something...

Maybe "Sheeple" has other connotations...

If all they're looking for is biomass to eat, then they would be better off just doing what we do and factory raise animals. If they didn't have our quirks, they could also expand that production and eat termites and plankton and other fast-breeding creepy crawlies that we haven't gotten around to farming yet.

Seems to me that the most important thing that we have that they can't reproduce is a conscious point of view. Nobody experiences reality from the same perspective as each one of us individually. And each one of interacting with reality defines it and shapes it and brings it from being virtual to being real.

It's like when Stephen Hawking in his last days started talking more about "information" as being part of the cosmic equation. Information is pretty much by definition a communication between two or more consciousnesses where something measurable is exchanged. And since we're talking consciousnesses with values, that something will have value to both entities. There are still no good physics equations that adequately incorporate points of view or consciousness into their dry little numbers.

Now, maybe they would be smart enough to build a machine that does that, but that would be in a realm we simply do not understand.

a reply to: dfnj2015

im talking about boundries, and how our bodies allow us to interact with the outside world. Actually if you want to create a similarity, or paralelism, the best approach is to say that the rock in your story, is the concept of jail im talking about in my first reply, other than that, i think reality is what we can perceive through our senses, and there's no way you can see other people's reality because you cannot access their consciousness.
Our senses are our limitations, so what if, thats the way we're being jailed in flesh and bones prisons ?

If they were here to serve man they would have done so. Does anyone go to africa to serve zulus?Very few actually do and they do in a way thats actually helpful . They provide medicine water etc. Nah these aliens arent here to serve nor are they aliens

Of course they're here to serve man. Why else would they tell the people they kidnap a bunch of banalities like "Don't kill each other" instead of giving us verifiable, scientific proof of their presence?

We are infinite, they are not. When we die we keep on living. We have a soul that E.T. does not. They are searching for our soul. They cannot understand , nor comprehend it, They cannot break it and they long for it. They are empty entities who long for our sub-conscience and feelings.
They have/are millions of years above our technology, but they cannot possess our souls and our eternity.
I know its really hard to wrap your head around it, but once yo do you will understand it 100%.

The bible describes the visits.
30 Bible Verses about Aliens
www.biblestudytools.com...
another good link
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