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posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Fools




Left wing minds do not like debate if they can't control the debate by grouping up and chasing off any opposing opinions.


Hi "left-wing mind" here.....always looking for a bit of debate I can't control.




posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


The number of people who I believe support trump is based on polling data, right now its at about 42%


Personally, I believe that most Trump supporters hate polls and refuse to participate in them, so I wouldn't count on their accuracy. I also have to question why anyone would want to pick up a telephone call from an unknown caller. Once you pick up the phone or make a donation to a national campaign party, they become relentless and won't leave you alone. I think I finally gave up my landline phone when I realized that the ONLY people who were calling me on it were political campaigns and pollsters.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined

I find polling quite interesting, I know they have there limitations but you asked me a question and I answered it thats all, really not looking to dive into an off-topic rabbit hole.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I know that you are not living in American and might not be aware that there are a lot of people in this country afraid to show any public support for trump.
Harassed over a hat.
Cars keyed over bumper stickers.
I truly believe he is liked much more than can be seen on the surface.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I know that you are not living in American and might not be aware that there are a lot of people in this country afraid to show any public support for trump.
Harassed over a hat.
Cars keyed over bumper stickers.
I truly believe he is liked much more than can be seen on the surface.


Hey dude if thats your opinion have at it!

In my opinion based on polling data his popularity is about 42%.

In your opinion based on your experiences living in America its higher than that.

I am not going to be so arrogant as to claim your wrong, I understand where your coming from its totally possible that his popularity is higher than polling data has indicated.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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I think it would have been nice to have gotten an answer to my question but otherwise, nice post.


Thank you for proving you didn't read my post.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin




I think it would have been nice to have gotten an answer to my question but otherwise, nice post.


Thank you for proving you didn't read my post.


awww now am trying to be nice....you don't come across as the friendliest of blocks I gotta say.

dude you know what, its fine.
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posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Try to put his 42% approval into perspective.
Congress probably has a 15% approval rating.

He's tripled them....lol



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Try to put his 42% approval into perspective.
Congress probably has a 15% approval rating.

He's tripled them....lol


HAHA!!

ok fair one mate!



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Fools




Left wing minds do not like debate if they can't control the debate by grouping up and chasing off any opposing opinions.


Hi "left-wing mind" here.....always looking for a bit of debate I can't control.



Sure, but we know that on left wing sites they will not allow debate they can't control. How long has The_Donald been quaranteened now? It's a real thing that SJW types thrive on shutting down debate they don't like. Very real. And its not just debate - they go out of their way to ruin peoples careers as well. In most corporations that I have worked at over the last 10 years you are "kept quiet" if you don't have left wing views because the SJW types will go to HR constantly and as a group to make sure your life is f'ing miserable. And I live in the midwest. I can't even imagine how bad it is on the coasts, or in merry England. Hell in your country people go to jail for making "offensive" comments on social media sites, do they not?



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin




Where am from doesn't matter, it means nothing to the topic at hand.


Sure it does. You don't live here so why are you dictating how were are to live, comment and see others attack our country.



I agree with you in almost every thread we’re in together, should my opinion not count because I’m not American?

FFS guys, you got me defending OSOTC, I swear to god if I ever side with or defend sillyolme I’m leaving ATS for good


It's like I said earlier, people should at least be aware of what's happening in other countries.
Having an opinion is not a problem.
But at the same time, why should I get all worked up over Australia's internal politics?


You shouldn’t because there is almost zero chance it will have any impact on your life.
The same cannot be said of America, what happens in your country reverberates strongly around the entire globe



Foreign policy yes.
Porn stars slept with no.
Does closing our border to illegals really effect Europe or Asia?
Does his Twitter battle with senators effect the rest of the world?

I just find it odd that so many people around the world give a damn about a washed up porn star relationship with a billionaire.


President or not I find it odd anyone (American or not) cares about what consenting adults do together and that has been my opinion in every thread it was a topic.

Is it your opinion that because I’m an Aussie I shouldn’t post in threads that are “American”?
Should we include a disclaimer at the top of each thread so us internationals know if we can comment on It?
Attacking the person or their nationality and not the idea comes across as a loss to me



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:38 PM
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Attacking the person or their nationality and not the idea comes across as a loss to me



Isn't there a word for that....


Am joking before you all lose your collective minds.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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you don't come across as the friendliest of blocks I gotta say.


I'm not.

I addressed your question in that post. You either didn't read it or didn't try to understand what I was saying. I don't care if you're trying to be nice, I don't require it.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Awwww

Come give me a man-hug I think you need it.

I bet your just a big softie at hart, let's do it, let's cuddle in the manliest way possible.

'mon wee-man, bring it it in, lets cuddle and I can whisper hypocritical sweet nothings in your ear, make you feel all special.
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posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:48 PM
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You just don't understand.

Most of you don't.

You just don't get it at all.

It's not about Trump. It was never about Trump. I could care less about Trump.


It's about one side that wants socialism and another side that wants freedom.

That's it.

Replace Trump with a cutout picture of Sandra Bullock, and if that cutout still wants to lower taxes, reduce onerous government regulations, provide for a strong border, and take care of our vets, then I'm voting for that cutout again.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:49 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


OK, I need to clear up a few things here. Firstly, I am speaking as an ATS member, in no official capacity. My statements are my own and not those of ATS. To clarify this point, I have even used "the box," something I reserve for posts like this.

ATS is not a right-leaning site. ATS is not a left-leaning site. ATS is neutral. I've been here for over 12 years, and lurked for many before that. The site is neutral politically... it wasn't even started over politics... it was started over conspiracies. It just so happens that the government seems to be at the heart of many of the conspiracies now-a-days.

Right now, at this point in time, it does appear that most active members are "right-leaning." So? You might as well complain that someone won any election in the damn world because the members of that country were biased. Public opinion changes, and that's not going to stop whether you want it to or not. Sometimes I am on the losing side of public opinion; sometimes I am on the winning side. But at least I have the intellectual honesty to not accuse everyone around me of some political bias conspiracy just because they have adopted a different position to mine. That's all the OP is.... a cry in the wilderness for someone to stop being mean and agree with MEEEEEEEEE!

Sorry, it don't work like that. You can't enforce some wild idea of equality on what the majority of people think.

Right now, at this moment in time, the political climate in America is leaning towards conservatism. That's largely because progressivism has been such a bust, and liberalism has been co-opted by the progressives. I know it sucks... it sucks when public opinion goes against something I desperately want, too. The difference is I don't throw a fit and go in somewhere griping and complaining about how everyone is against me. I put forth arguments and try to change what is into what I want... sometimes I have some limited success; sometimes I don't.

It's been almost three years since the evil demon named Donald John Trump was elected as President of the United States. Three freakin' years! And still we have people like you going off on tangents about how demonic he really is, although so far you haven't been able to prove a single word of it. It's just childish temper tantrums, and I will agree that ATS is not what it once was because ATS allows these childish temper tantrums. Someone could start a topic talking about whether or not the Loch Ness monster still exists, and dammit if it won't get a reply along the lines of "If Trump wasn't such a [insert horrible yet unsubstantiated crime against humanity here] Nessie wouldn't be dead!"

I mean really... give me a freakin' break!

The very fact that you are able to start this thread is proof in itself that ATS does not censor over political views. If this were a "right wing echo chamber" as you seem intent on claiming, your butt wouldn't be allowed on the site! A similar statement to your OP, biased the exact opposite, would not be allowed to exist on YouTube or Twitter very long! The site itself would remove it and likely ban you for posting it. At the very least, they would take steps to limit your exposure, either by making it hard to find you or refusing to monetize you over your opinion, or something along those lines.

No, you have every right to come here and (within the site rules, which are nonpartisan) post this stinking, decomposing pile of mental diarrhea. Not one thing will be done to make this thread harder to find. You won't encounter any penalties for posting it. The rules we all have to follow have not changed since well before Trump was elected.

The really sad thing is that the only people who care are those who already agree with you. You haven't accomplished one damn thing except do the exact same thing you just wrote a thread to complain about others doing. You mess in one corner of a room and then have the gall to complain about others messing in other corners.

On the other hand, it would appear from your very complaints that what the conservatives are doing IS working... otherwise the number of conservative-leaning folks wouldn't be growing and you wouldn't have anything to complain about (although I suspect you would complain about that anyway). You're losing the battle for hearts and minds, because every defeat you have you try and blame on someone else. Oh, if only the world wasn't biased against you! Oh, if only there were some way to make everyone equal by making them agree with you! Adolph Hitler, help us!

If you want to change opinions around here, it's time to grow the hell up and put on those big boy panties. Debate the facts instead of just throwing around crazy allegations hoping some will stick to something. They won't. You've worn all the sticky off them cow-pies. Act like an adult: propose solutions instead of just complaints, and show us some evidence or logical train of thought to indicate they may work better than the ones you are opposing. Accept that not everyone is going to suddenly decide, "OMG! All these years I have believed X, Y, and Z, but now, because one dude on the Internet wrote one post I realize I have been wrong!" Actually, if you get that response once during a lifetime, I would suggest you just experienced a divine miracle.

Oh, and don't bother trying to tell me you're neutral... if you're neutral, I'm Pope John Paul I back from the dead to renounce my life and preach about the Flying Purple Spaghetti Monster! You're not fooling anyone but yourself.

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TheRedneck


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:49 PM
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thats a different way of looking at it I guess.

So for you then its not so much about the individual but the ideology?



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: DBCowboy

thats a different way of looking at it I guess.

So for you then its not so much about the individual but the ideology?


Not even ideology.

I look for and vote for people who agree with me on issues.

I don't go looking for people that I can agree with.

Trump obviously doesn't agree with me on all issues, but that's okay since no one does, unless you're an ideologue.

Ideologies are to conformist for me to be comfortable with.



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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I gotta say I feel very much the same as you do yet I think on the individual issues our views would be drastically different which I suppose I why you might be more supporting of Trump that I might be. Then again your thinking I suppose does make it entirely possible that next week he could do something that makes me think "yeah, good on him" where you might go "ohhh orange man really is bad"



posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 12:57 PM
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Yep.

Imagine if he tried to socialize medicine.

You'd hold a parade for him and I'd be storming the castle.



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