Civilization causes devolution

a reply to: one4all

Can you actually type in an intelligible manner?

Bioinformatics is the area one would study to show if your information was correct. Or do you propose I go through a Liger genome one nucleic acid at a time?

originally posted by: oldcarpy

Cancer has been cured many many times....and the word cancer is a bold faced lie.....cancers are a symptom not an illness.....they are a symptom of a specific catalyst.....what we call cancers are really 3rd stage impacts of a pleomorphic bacteria....and any ten year old kid with Google can discover that....

Thing is, 10 year old kids grow up and realise that not everything they see on the internet/Youtube is real. There's a lesson there for you.

I believe you to be anti-humanitarian in your stance and commentary.There is a lesson somewhere in there for you.

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: one4all

Can you actually type in an intelligible manner?

Bioinformatics is the area one would study to show if your information was correct. Or do you propose I go through a Liger genome one nucleic acid at a time?

Well what we are really discussing is communication leading to the establishment of the parameters of a developing genetic template.....and once we get to the meat and bones of this communication we will be treading on dangerous territory.....what we really must do is walk thru the entire process step by step....and as you I believe already realise if we do this we will build a direct path to some genetic science suppressions....however you see a numbers language deals with outliers in unique ways...by eliminating them......I use them as waypoints.

....www.bing.com... c=8-8&qs=n&sk=&cvid=142fd64c51c545ebe15f32a88d030f81

Math seeks EQUALITY not equity...…..by seeking equality we by proxy must eliminate outliers.

Don't complain about my typing slow poke....I am straining to deal with you as it is.....you are like Molasses in January man....lol...lol....nothing personal but jeepers....

Listen up and I will be direct.....we can discuss this no problems but YOU MY FRIEND WILL BE THE ONE LEADING THE DISCUSSION AND POSTING THE DATA FROM YOUR SIDE OF THE STORYLINE....NOT FROM MY SIDE...SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS GROUND TO TREAD ON.....and this is why I am cryptic and force you to do the legwork even though you try to spit-the-bit every time we interact....you are on the cusp of getting yourself into some potentially pretty big trouble and may not even be clued into that fact.


You underestimate how easy it is to redact suppressionist actions....how easy it is to find truths.....and this is a DANGEROUS way to view the world....I am leading you to the exposure of naturally occurring telepathy and extended shall we say longevity...…..you don't understand that...there is no way we can continue productively without breaching these exact topics and once the cat is out of the bag it doesn't ever go back in.

That is why I insist you do legwork...you shall either take responsibility for illuminating these things on your own dime....or not....but I have chosen to not do so myself.....you just go on and keep digging as deeply as you wish to...I will help you...but don't be condescending it just frustrates me and makes me question if its worth my time or not.

I understand how and why biometrics is being pursued....however the very computers we are trying to use to facilitate biometrics will soon be obsolete....they have to become obsolete …. you can map the geonome by using numbers....but causality will never be discerned using those same numbers.....what you are mapping is the PAST...it is a result already put into the books....statistical patterns DO NOT BY PROXY LEAD TO CAUSALITY...which is why I despise numbers and stats...numbers are designed to be fluidic and to support lies as much as truths....numbers can be engineered to lead you away from causality which reveals truths.

We are seeking causality....we are looking at non-numeric communication....we are stepping into a whole new world....approaching the issue of bioinformatics......not biometrics.

I am not sure if you will grasp this but I hope so.....Big Blue lost to Kasparov....then the computer techs went back and cheated....they reprogrammed Big Blue to CHEAT THE NUMBERS REALITY to attempt to replicate Kasparovs creativity and ingenuity.....do you even understand what this means???....the computer did not have a chance until someone told it not to listen to its own numeric logic....it had to be taught to lie to itself...numbers force you to lie......Big Blue won the second match because it had been tailored to map Kasparovs bluffs and to lie back to him....something computers do not do on their own......they taught A.I how to lie so it could better anticipate a humans non-linear decision....they taught A.I how to breach the checks and balances numbers naturally put in place.

Are you even prepared for the direct consequences research even here can lead you to...because as I said it has to be YOU doing the legwork and leading everyone to the finishline….not me.....decades of suppression is on the cusp of being reversed....in only a few short statements of fact......you have the background to make something an irreversible status-quo reality....I have the conceptual ability to lead you where you need to go.

a reply to: one4all

I believe you to be anti-humanitarian in your stance and commentary.There is a lesson somewhere in there for you.

This, from the poster who "knows" that billions are going to die soon but can't be bothered to save us all?

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Barcs

Nope. It's an incomplete theory which explains how the forces of evolution effect entities through time and space.

But technically it's a group of forces effect on lineage. So...

Nope. Evolution is change in allele frequency within populations groups caused by replication errors and the environment. It's not a force, it's an explanation for diversity.

Sure that is one form of evolution. Guess you just dont understand the larger study at hand and refer to a specific biological evolution (which we know for sure is also effected on the quantum scale, though forced evolution, psychological evolution, cultural evolution)

What was taming fire's effect on gene flow and mutation?


Lol

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Barcs

Nope. It's an incomplete theory which explains how the forces of evolution effect entities through time and space.

But technically it's a group of forces effect on lineage. So...

Nope. Evolution is change in allele frequency within populations groups caused by replication errors and the environment. It's not a force, it's an explanation for diversity.

Sure that is one form of evolution. Guess you just dont understand the larger study at hand and refer to a specific biological evolution (which we know for sure is also effected on the quantum scale, though forced evolution, psychological evolution, cultural evolution)

What was taming fire's effect on gene flow and mutation?


Lol

There is only one theory of evolution, bud. Guess you don't know how to back up your claims with evidence?

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: one4all

I believe you to be anti-humanitarian in your stance and commentary.There is a lesson somewhere in there for you.

This, from the poster who "knows" that billions are going to die soon but can't be bothered to save us all?

The meek shall inherit the Earth Carpy… www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...


Anyone of the billions you refer to can choose to manifest themselves as a part of Earths future....just at the VGCDW Model and choose a spot that will not be subducted or rocketed up 2-3000 feet....not close to any known Volcanos and not on a Coastline....dig a j-shaped underground shelter at least 25 feet into the bedrock …. on the leeward side of your spot....inside store enough food and water for the occupants for 2 years and enough tools seeds supplies and equipment as well as books ect ect to restart civilisation from your shelter.....then get ready to hunker down for an as yet undetermined amount of time,try not to forget anything important because you could be absolutely on your own for several decades time....or forever...….its anyones guess....and don't expect to scavenge like in Mad Max because there will be millions upon millions of kms of mudflats and stagnant salt water lakes and flooded areas or dead zones for a very long time.....no zombie apocalypse because there will literally be no one left around....oil is a RENEWABLE RESOURCE and human beings are always a part of the mix.

See Carpy I have tried to save everyone

a reply to: one4all

I'd take you even vaguely seriously, if you could type more than a stream of conciousness, word salad.

Again, nothing is being suppressed. Though perhaps some medication might help you suppress your mania.

You jumped from Ligers being proof of something or other, to AI blah blah blah.

Basically you are not onto anything. You might be ON something however.

a reply to: Barcs

Well one theory of biological evolution.

We have evolution of gas in chemical reactions (insert inappropriate jokes)

We have the evolution of the earth

Evolution of the solar system

etc

But yeah single biological theory of evolution. Which that poster seems to not know

a reply to: one4all

Prove your religion is the only one. My spiritual path has no apocalyptic stuff, we've been through it for this cycle, and its the age of Man, not the age of gods.

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: luthier

You do understand that there is no such thing as a complete scientific theory right?

Good lord. Of course. Which was my point. We are babies and should be a little more humble.

Evolution when you break it down in play terms is the study of forces (biological genetic drift, mutation etc...) on lineage.

This is how I describe it in a simple way to people so it can explain genetic engineering, forced evolution (selective breeding)...

It's a huge subject that isn't just nature but human evolution uses ideas through cultural evolution becomes more complex...like I stated fire most likely a culturally learned thing effected biology. So sure you could just stick with its environment but imo is really getting complex with what natural variables are...what happens to human engineered things in nature...totally new subject of study..

For me having philosophy as the background but working in physics teams in college was pretty cool. In real science for science there are much more open ideas than people in applied sciences pretend.

Now science is also exploring quantum entanglement possibilities effects and mechanical nuances in the quantum world...not to be confused with quantum evolution...

a reply to: luthier

It can't be your point, you attacked it for being incomplete. Which its supposed to be.

You don't need to break it down to me, as I'm educated in Genetics (and Chemistry).

Please do cite the quantum entanglement and evolution papers (otherwise its a not really applicable here, people need to stop trying to tie it all together, when we barely understand some of it (the quantum entanglement for example))

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: one4all

I'd take you even vaguely seriously, if you could type more than a stream of conciousness, word salad.

Again, nothing is being suppressed. Though perhaps some medication might help you suppress your mania.

You jumped from Ligers being proof of something or other, to AI blah blah blah.

Basically you are not onto anything. You might be ON something however.

I don't think you have the background you claim not genetics nor chemistry and we don't count anyone who was in school in the 90s if you were born before the internet you are already off the team because you cannot handle the data volume ...ever for you are to old to have time to catch up....and if you do things are worse than I thought because you are a lost cause and likely to take a lot of good people with you.God forbid you are ever in any type of leadership position,cowards belong at the back of the line feeding the scavengers.I repeatedly asked you to illustrate you claimed educaton but you refuse to do it.

Under the pressure to produce you begin a figurative "Naruto Run" in these conversations and you look for a "safe place" immediately by refusing to put out any effort and trying to command the high stand cerebrally and morally....lol....Seems to me that you are the foundation of these actions …… you know the ones who brought us all of this fine drama like the Naruto Run....lol...lol.

Stop being such a crybaby and use your education or stop claiming to have it....how is anyone supposed to believe anything you say now?

a reply to: one4all

How would you know if I had the background? You admitted you don't know the subject matter.

I have very bad news for you kid. The internet was avaliable from the late 90s. You re confusing the World Wide Web, and the Internet. They are different As a GenXer, I know how to use both the internet, and the World Wide Web. So we can discount your agism here.


Post the evidence. You have already shown you don't understand genetics, or how the use of computers is used for that.

You then go right into an attack of character. Which means all your arguments are discounted. Basically you are either trolling, lying, or deluded.

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: one4all

How would you know if I had the background? You admitted you don't know the subject matter.

I have very bad news for you kid. The internet was avaliable from the late 90s. You re confusing the World Wide Web, and the Internet. They are different

As a GenXer, I know how to use both the internet, and the World Wide Web. So we can discount your agism here.


Post the evidence. You have already shown you don't understand genetics, or how the use of computers is used for that.

You then go right into an attack of character. Which means all your arguments are discounted. Basically you are either trolling, lying, or deluded.

Nyet Lobsang….you attacked first out of fear.Your arguments were disenfranchised the moment you refused to participate as a stakeholder in the conversation...and like I said I don't blame you for being afraid as I would be afraid to have my professional life vivisected by a random internet poster.

You don't have to understand genetics...lol....you overvalue yourself.....you are almost less than a full link...."Kid"...lol....you are a real piece of work …. you just don't understand that the masses don't value your education nor you mantras and storylines....the money attatched to the degrees you worked for is basically bupkiss today....but you still think you are somehow "above" the little people....well welcome to the real world....do some work you are acting lazy and entitled.

Tell us about the Ligers genetic template or you are being dishonest about your claims to professional credentials....tell us about the NATURAL TEMPLATE and do not represent things "as if humans created Ligers like a Franken animal" when you know darn well that Ligers may have been bred by transporting animals to a common ground but the action of them breeding together and producing off-spring exhibiting hybrid-vigor is a NATURAL ACTION AND UNFETTERED NATURAL ACTION.

You are a coward.....and it tasks my patience because you are also to lippy...to top it off you have shown ZERO evidence of any kind of Professional acumen....however I will continue to grind you down pal its not difficult.

Back to business.....why don't you explain a plausible theory as to how a Liger could be NATURALLY BRED.....how could that massive seemingly immovable distance preventing the two animals from meeting be overcome?.....and now to the sweet spot pal.....I say that both parents stem from a common genetic primary contributor and lived in a common geographic area ...but then..... a physical action of Continental Seperation catalysed a unique situation where each strain on each continent began to specialise itself.....and then yes Lobsang we or people brought the 2 animals together by breaching the distance...now how do time and distance factor into this conversation Lobsang….stay wit me for once ok....remember the diverging genetic timeline ...which splits into 2.... well now consider CONVERGING GENETIC TIMELINES which have a common genetic catalyst. Bingo...you have a Liger.

When you remove Humans from Earth for any length of time the EXACT SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS....and when you bring them back together they express hybrid-vigor and produce offspring parallel to the Liger.

Now about those diverging and converging genetic timelines...young lobsang.....how do they factor into your bioinformatics equations.....I seriously doubt you have found a way to tame the Chaos Theory as some of us have done and due to that fact you have no way to represent these genetic timelines and their behaviours and impacts.

a reply to: one4all

I have repeatedly asked you to provide proof. You have repeatedly refused. I have to thus assume you have no proof. That you do not know proof. You move on to off topic rants, to avoid that you are clearly not telling the truth.

So I return to the fact.

Provide the evidence to be examined. if you do not, it does not exist. I really don't care if you beleive me or not. But the burden of proof is still firmly in your court. The more you avoid, and attack, the more it becomes apparent you are untruthful.

a reply to: Noinden

I never attacked anything. I pointed out evolution is not a cosmological model. It does not predict many many things. It is a piece of our search for truth but some folks treat it as more than it is.


And you are greatly mistaken if you do not understand the connection of physics, biology and chemistry being researched. Perhaps you have no idea of the computational aspect of bioengineered "computers" and the money being dumped into all aspects of data storage and encryption.

I think you know atomic evolution is an aspect of science. I am sure you can find research mixing quantum mechanics and evolution....

a reply to: luthier

You kind of did attack it. I also asked you for the papers. Still waiting. Perhaps you missed the point where I have a background in Chemsitry and Bioinformatics? So I am curious. Papers please. You made the claim, you provide them. Yes I could go to Scifinder, but if you share them they are free to the public (for others to see).

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: one4all

I have repeatedly asked you to provide proof. You have repeatedly refused. I have to thus assume you have no proof. That you do not know proof. You move on to off topic rants, to avoid that you are clearly not telling the truth.

So I return to the fact.

Provide the evidence to be examined. if you do not, it does not exist. I really don't care if you beleive me or not. But the burden of proof is still firmly in your court. The more you avoid, and attack, the more it becomes apparent you are untruthful.

I think anyone tuning in has enough hints to do their own digging...you and your imaginary credentials arent really required anymore.Bio-bullspit more like it...lol...lol...you are an odd bird...I wonder if you are really hiding in the Broom closet of some hospital somewhere tapping away on some Orderlies stolen iPhone.....lol.

a reply to: one4all

You can think what you like. However you claimed to have evidence. Thus far its a couple of bad Youtube videos. You resort to insult, attack, and acoidence.

Supply the evidence.

You don't know when I got my bioinformatics degree. I will give you a hint it was THIS decade. See I've continued my education. My chemistry is something I work with everyday, as is my MBA. Several others scintists in this forum, already know I'm the real deal.

As for who is the mental patient? I'm not the one who is convinced he was abducted by aliens. Now thats fine its your personal belief, but you post in a disjointed and nonsensical manner. So the chances are, you are the one who is in a broom closet somewhere, hiding what he is doing.

So, I am still awaiting that proof.