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Russian and Chinese jets "violate" SK airspace

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posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 02:21 AM
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South Korea fires hundreds of warning shots at Russian military plane in its airspace


SEOUL (Reuters) - The South Korean military fired hundreds of warning shots at a Russian military aircraft that entered South Korean airspace on Tuesday, defense officials in Seoul said, with Chinese military aircraft also entering South Korean airspace.

It was the first time a Russian military aircraft had violated South Korean airspace, an official at the Ministry of National Defense in Seoul said.

The warplane was one of three Russian aircraft to enter the Korea Air Defense Identification Zone (KADIZ) early on Tuesday...

...Two Chinese military aircraft also entered the KADIZ, it said.



I found this quite perplexing at best.

Not only is it the first time for *any* Russian military aircraft to actually enter Korean airspace unannounced, but the Chinese were also whizzing about as well.

I know SK is a publicly-known US ally, but still...jeez...




posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 02:26 AM
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luckily they're neighbors so its understandable, sorta.

but US has military bases all over SK, like 15.



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 02:48 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Technically, no they didn't. They entered the KADIZ, which is not actually Korean airspace, anymore than the ADIZ around the US is our airspace. It's a positive control identification zone prior to entering the airspace of the country it's around.

And the warning shots weren't fired AT the Russian aircraft, they were fired near them. I really hate lazy journalism.



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 02:51 AM
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a reply to: tulsi

You don't enter the ADIZ because you're neighbors. The only reason to do it, outside of a scheduled flight to or over that country with prior permission, is to test response times, learn radio frequencies and procedures, and try to get missile defenses to come up so you can map them. This wasn't just a friendly sightseeing flight by neighbors.



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 02:54 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Would you consider this to be common and/or expected?

Or is it more out of the ordinary?



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 02:56 AM
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a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

The warning shots is out of the ordinary. The aircraft entering the KADIZ isn't as common as it is here in the US, but it's not uncommon either.



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 03:16 AM
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As for this being the first time Russia has entered the KADIZ, they even got that wrong.

Jul y 13, 2018

March 2008

As for this incident, the Russian aircraft were Tu-95MS bombers. The Russian government says they don't recognize ADIZ, and there's no international stipulation for them. There may have also been an A-50 with them.

www.google.com...
edit on 7/23/2019 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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When you think about the whole "airapace" violation thing...

What it really amounts to is each countries old geezers screaming 'get off my lawn'



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox
When you think about the whole "airapace" violation thing...

What it really amounts to is each countries old geezers screaming 'get off my lawn'


And scream they should!

Get off my damn lawn!

*Unholsters Glock*

Nothing like a good bit of gunboat diplomacy!



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Maybe in their view the west is looking weak in some way right now?

So they are testing their limits, Seeing what they can get away with?

Just spit balling because your right.
This was a strange move by them.

But I don't think they would have done this if they thought there would be consequences that they couldn't handle.



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

Russia hasn't been into the KADIZ as often as other ADIZ, but it's no different than when they fly off Alaska, or Guam, or Japan. And the Chinese have been in the KADIZ fairly often. Beyond protests there are no consequences, because they have every right to be there. The ADIZ is still international airspace, the only thing is that you're supposed to prefile a flight plan, be positively identified through your transponder, and be in communication with ATC of the nation it's around.
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posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

i wonder who was escorting who.

also SK firing shots is obviously not a normal intercept i wonder what got them to go that far. Im not sure how the SK AF works but i assume like the rest of their military that it's AF is very much like ours(US), i imagine even getting permission to fire said warning shot in sight of the russians(especially considering the history) would require the order to be OK'd pretty high up the ladder



posted on Jul, 23 2019 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: penroc3

They left the KADIZ then came back. At that point the warning shots would have been authorized.



posted on Jul, 24 2019 @ 03:30 AM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Following a strong denial from Russian defence ministry over the incident South Korea have said the Russians have now expressed "deep regret" for violating its territorial airspace and that an investigation into the circumstances is under way.

But South Korea's Blue House said in a briefing that Russia had now said the violation was unintended and that it would immediately launch an investigation into the case.

"Moscow said if the aircraft flew according to an initially planned route, this incident would not have occurred," a spokesman told reporters.

This has not been confirmed by Russian officials.


The alleged incursion happened over the disputed Dokdo/Takeshima islands, which are occupied by South Korea but also claimed by Japan.

South Korea's military said that in total three Russian and two Chinese military aircraft entered the Korea Air Defence Identification Zone (KADIZ) on Tuesday morning.

A separate A-50 Russian warplane also violated its territorial airspace twice, it said, before leaving.
www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Jul, 24 2019 @ 07:04 PM
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Two Chinese H-6Ks, and two Tu-95MS, controlled by an A-50. The warning shots were fired at the Mainstay.




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