Widespread blackout hits Venezuela - Government blames 'electromagnetic attack'

a reply to: burdman30ott6

When in doubt, Occam's Razor...

a reply to: Malisa

More likely the US contributed by starting to mine our own oil. You can add Canada into that. Between shale oil and fracking, OPEC's monopoly lost its grip, and they started to lower their prices drastically to try to starve out new industries. As a part of OPEC, Vanazuela had to follow along with their oil pricing, and when your entire economy depends on oil, bad things happen to it when the bottom falls out of that market.

Smart central planners diversify so such things can't happen, but neither Chavez nor Maduro after him were smart enough to do that, and they compounded their problems by seizing more and more control rather than seeking to diversify their ecomomy so that other things could prop it up until oil could rebound. In the meantime, their oil infrastructure crumbled under corrupt and inept management, so that they no longer produce effectively.

This is the same sort of problem you see in other central control command states.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

It was the combination of poorly-maintained infrastructure, Venezuela's location on the Earth, and space weather's impact, as talked about in this daily news report at the 0:48 time mark.

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Not much new on the internet about the "attack". Power has been restored to the capital and some other locations. Many areas are still dealing with unstable power.

It's unclear what Venezuela's government meant by its claim of an electromagnetic attack. There are weapons that can deliver an electromagnetic pulse that could fry circuitry in a power plant, similar to the way a lightning strike could damage computer equipment. But it's highly unlikely that those with the capability of using such sophisticated weapons would do so, some experts said, adding that a cyberattack would be more likely.

Opposition rallies as Venezuela blackout eases in some areas

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Malisa

More likely the US contributed by starting to mine our own oil. You can add Canada into that. Between shale oil and fracking, OPEC's monopoly lost its grip, and they started to lower their prices drastically to try to starve out new industries. As a part of OPEC, Vanazuela had to follow along with their oil pricing, and when your entire economy depends on oil, bad things happen to it when the bottom falls out of that market.

Smart central planners diversify so such things can't happen, but neither Chavez nor Maduro after him were smart enough to do that, and they compounded their problems by seizing more and more control rather than seeking to diversify their ecomomy so that other things could prop it up until oil could rebound. In the meantime, their oil infrastructure crumbled under corrupt and inept management, so that they no longer produce effectively.

This is the same sort of problem you see in other central control command states.

How does that has anything to do with applying sanctions that kill people in a country that has nothing (and wanted nothing to do with the US)?

How about let them be and see if they fail/succeed on their own? Why is that not an option as soon as the country decides they are going to do their own thing?

Please tell me you actually look at the facts. It's been decades and the list of countries who fail due to sanctions and the exact same strategy keeps growing in a ridiculous way, how are you ignoring all about it?

It is a fact, it is out there, you can see the it. There are people who worked on it that came out and explained how it works. You can see the exact same pattern all over, and you chose to find yourself an explanation that fits what you would like to believe instead of reality?

Whoever is on power in the government is doing the exact same things that have caused hundreds of thousands/millions of death and you approve somehow

There are sanctions forcefully imposed by the US, in a mafia way such as "either you follow our orders or you fall too" and no country under those sanctions would be able to buy machines, medicines, hire people, get resources of any kind because they are being shut down of the entire world. So how can you ignore that very specific fact? When someone says they are "a failed state" they forget to mention there is an organized group of countries sanctioning Venezuela so that it becomes a failed state, just so they can say "seeeee, they are failing! WE told you so!".

I did not mention oil or anything but the sanctions, and as i said sanctions causing thousands of deaths and a decline of their economy is a very real thing, which is now used in a very underhanded way to attack them even more. Do you even care at all about those people down there?

a reply to: ketsuko

Also seeing as this is the second time it happens and due to that document that got leaked which explains, without any doubt, that the US had plans to cause this exact scenario years and years ago, how come you have not wondered if we are on the wrong side this time?

How come for example, and i asked this before and got conveniently shut down, Marco Rubio new 'one hour' before even the Venezuelan government new and announced, that there was a blackout and which power plant was the one that caused it

I mean, how come he new one hour before everyone else? And it got ignored, should not people be asking some questions by now? You know people died, right? Like in hospitals and other places and it caused lots of issues otherwise.

So how could he know how and where the failure happened before the actual Venezuelan government knew?

Maybe i'm an idealist or something, but i don't like fakery like this, and this is one of the most absurds and stupid attempts at overthrowing a government in the past decades

It's actually embarrassing when/if you know how it is looked upon by people outside the US, they are not blinded by patriotism :S

LOL

originally posted by: LookingAtMars


Opposition rallies as Venezuela blackout eases in some areas

What a coincidence. You could almost say it was the Venezuelan government which caused the blackouts. Remember the "Arab Spring" period? When some governments deliberately caused communications blackout? Why not go further and have power outages etc? Just a thought...

EDIT: But obviously, Occam's Razor crops up again and we are reminded of Venezuela's troubled infrastructure and whatnot...