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Iran sentences 'CIA spies' to death after 'breaking ring'

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posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 09:24 AM
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edit on 25/7/19 by SecretKnowledge because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 25 2019 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Bloodworth

All the accusations you make towards Iran can be at least equally applied to Saudi Arabia.

And Saudi Arabian's have carried out several acts of terrorism against the US and one very notable attack inside the US.
All have suspected links to senior Saudi officials.

Yet no desire for war with Saudi Arabia.....why?



They are last on the list.
Right now they are being used to kill muslims in Yemen?
Iraq check
Afghanistan check
Libya check
Egypt check

Syria still giving up a fight and winning, those claims of chemical weapons on kids was supposed to get everyone on board.

Iran then sa

Iran to Iraq for some Turkey



posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 06:58 AM
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originally posted by: gortex

Obviously you haven't realized yet that special interest groups are pushing you to war , Iran is standing up for itself in the face of financial attack.


Those same people, the DNC/Hillary, tried to get us to war with Russia. Not to mention POTUS Trump could have gone to war with Iran after they shot down the drone. But POTUS Trump stopped it despite the fact that he was adviced to go to war with Iran.

As for "Iran standing up for themselves..." They are an authoritarian regime that murders people for lesser offenses, including minors. Not to mention the terrorism they have been involved in. But you had to side with a nation that broadcasts in it's news their hatred for the western world and more so the U.S. They have constant protests calling for the destruction of the U.S. and Israel with authorization from the Iranian regime. But despite all of that, and despite the fact the Trump administration could have gone to war with Iran, we didn't.


originally posted by: gortex
We did and so now the Iranians have , they said they would , tit4tat.


We imposed sanctions on a nation that for decades was trying to get nukes despite denying it.


originally posted by: gortex
America, or rather members of its current administration are pushing the Western world toward war and No I'm not fine and dandy with that.


If that was true why did POTUS Trump stop the planes from attacking Iran?...



originally posted by: gortex
We've been here before , remember ?


Again you are wrong. POTUS Trump has proven that his cool mind prevailed over the taunts from the Iranian regime. his actions prove that he would use "going to war" as a last resort.






edit on 26-7-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




Those same people, the DNC/Hillary, tried to get us to war with Russia.

Typical "yeah but ... Hillary" answer.



Not to mention POTUS Trump could have gone to war with Iran after they shot down the drone. But POTUS Trump stopped it despite the fact that he was adviced to go to war with Iran.

According to Trump who is in case you forgot a Liar.



As for "Iran standing up for themselves..." They are an authoritarian regime that murders people for lesser offenses, including minors.

As are America's biggest ally in the region , seems the moral high horse only fits one saddle.



Not to mention the terrorism they have been involved in.

When it comes to supporting terrorists neither Saudi or America have clean hands either but best we forget about that because ?




But you had to side with a nation that broadcasts in it's news their hatred for the western world and more so the U.S

I'm not siding with anyone just calling out political BS where I see it.
Iran broadcasts its hatred of America because of the history between the two countries , remember the Shah and who put him their ?



We imposed sanctions on a nation that for decades was trying to get nukes despite denying it.

No , you have imposed sanctions on a Nation for geopolitical reasons.



If that was true why did POTUS Trump stop the planes from attacking Iran?...

Perhaps because he realized it would be a stupid and costly thing to do , there's more mileage in squeezing Iran until either it or its people react.



Again you are wrong. POTUS Trump has proven that his cool mind prevailed over the taunts from the Iranian regime. his actions prove that he would use "going to war" as a last resort.

Yeah , right.



posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




As for "Iran standing up for themselves..." They are an authoritarian regime that murders people for lesser offenses, including minors. Not to mention the terrorism they have been involved in.

Sounds like Saudi Arabia and Iran are one in the same!! ..funny that



posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: gortex

Obviously you haven't realized yet that special interest groups are pushing you to war , Iran is standing up for itself in the face of financial attack.


Those same people, the DNC/Hillary, tried to get us to war with Russia. Not to mention POTUS Trump could have gone to war with Iran after they shot down the drone. But POTUS Trump stopped it despite the fact that he was adviced to go to war with Iran.

As for "Iran standing up for themselves..." They are an authoritarian regime that murders people for lesser offenses, including minors. Not to mention the terrorism they have been involved in. But you had to side with a nation that broadcasts in it's news their hatred for the western world and more so the U.S. They have constant protests calling for the destruction of the U.S. and Israel with authorization from the Iranian regime. But despite all of that, and despite the fact the Trump administration could have gone to war with Iran, we didn't.


originally posted by: gortex
We did and so now the Iranians have , they said they would , tit4tat.


We imposed sanctions on a nation that for decades was trying to get nukes despite denying it.


originally posted by: gortex
America, or rather members of its current administration are pushing the Western world toward war and No I'm not fine and dandy with that.


If that was true why did POTUS Trump stop the planes from attacking Iran?...



originally posted by: gortex
We've been here before , remember ?


Again you are wrong. POTUS Trump has proven that his cool mind prevailed over the taunts from the Iranian regime. his actions prove that he would use "going to war" as a last resort.







Let’s keep in mind what trump almost did. According to his claims at any rate. He almost launched an attack against iran. Iran would have fully retaliated, as they have no other choice geopolitically. That would have involved full strikes on Israel, Saudi, and anyone in the straits of hormuz. This would have instantly stopped any oil transport through there, and all the worlds economic activity would have come to a screeching halt, with worldwide collapse. Trump almost did this on a whim. Afterward, when his cabinet and advisors, I assume, explained the situation to him, he changed his mind. He even asked Iran if he could do a symbolic attack on a non habited area to save face. They told him no.



posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: gortex

Typical "yeah but ... Hillary" answer.


It's not typical, it is the truth... It wasn't just her, the DNC in general were pushing us to war, just like they kept pushing Trump to go to war with Russia... But "your typical response" will be "that isn't true it's Trump, Trump Trump...all evils start and end with Trump..."


originally posted by: gortex
According to Trump who is in case you forgot a Liar.


He wasn't lying. I could post claims and lies you have written in the forums. Heck even in this thread itself.



originally posted by: gortex
As are America's biggest ally in the region , seems the moral high horse only fits one saddle.


I don't like Saudi Arabia one bit, but you have to be stupid to want to go to war with everyone in the world that is an enemy of the U.S... Not to mention that here you are, wanting the U.S. to go after Saudi Arabia, but not Iran... If it was up to you you would push us to war with Saudi Arabia.



originally posted by: gortex
When it comes to supporting terrorists neither Saudi or America have clean hands either but best we forget about that because ?


Again, the U.S. can't go to war with everyone, and Saudi Arabia doesn't have frequent state sponsored protests calling for the total destruction of the U.S. and Israel like Iran does...



originally posted by: gortex
I'm not siding with anyone just calling out political BS where I see it.
Iran broadcasts its hatred of America because of the history between the two countries , remember the Shah and who put him their ?


Yes you are. Could you show us your threads and posts bashing at Obama? I could also point out that you are spewing political BS as yet another leftist.

As for the Shah... Do you mean the same Shah that modernized Iran, and which for example allowed women in Iran to be free until the radical socialists/religious fanatics "in Iran" decided to overthrow him to impose a Sharia based government? Which of course Jimmy Carter, a democrat, after seeing that IRANIANS succeeded on overthrowing decided to back the new leadership?



originally posted by: gortex
No , you have imposed sanctions on a Nation for geopolitical reasons.


So YOU claim. But claims are like hot air. There is lot's of it, and most of it are lies.


originally posted by: gortex
Perhaps because he realized it would be a stupid and costly thing to do , there's more mileage in squeezing Iran until either it or its people react.


So first you claim that POTUS Trump lied, and now you claim to know what was/is in his mind?...



originally posted by: gortex
Yeah , right.


Yes, right... Glad you can at least agree on something...













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posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: gortex

Typical "yeah but ... Hillary" answer.


It's not typical, it is the truth... It wasn't just her, the DNC in general were pushing us to war, just like they kept pushing Trump to go to war with Russia... But "your typical response" will be "that isn't true it's Trump, Trump Trump...all evils start and end with Trump..."


originally posted by: gortex
According to Trump who is in case you forgot a Liar.


He wasn't lying. I could post claims and lies you have written in the forums. Heck even in this thread itself.



originally posted by: gortex
As are America's biggest ally in the region , seems the moral high horse only fits one saddle.


I don't like Saudi Arabia one bit, but you have to be stupid to want to go to war with everyone in the world that is an enemy of the U.S... Not to mention that here you are, wanting the U.S. to go after Saudi Arabia, but not Iran... If it was up to you you would push us to war with Saudi Arabia.



originally posted by: gortex
When it comes to supporting terrorists neither Saudi or America have clean hands either but best we forget about that because ?


Again, the U.S. can't go to war with everyone, and Saudi Arabia doesn't have frequent state sponsored protests calling for the total destruction of the U.S. and Israel like Iran does...



originally posted by: gortex
I'm not siding with anyone just calling out political BS where I see it.
Iran broadcasts its hatred of America because of the history between the two countries , remember the Shah and who put him their ?


Yes you are. Could you show us your threads and posts bashing at Obama? I could also point out that you are spewing political BS as yet another leftist.

As for the Shah... Do you mean the same Shah that modernized Iran, and which for example allowed women in Iran to be free until the radical socialists/religious fanatics "in Iran" decided to overthrow him to impose a Sharia based government? Which of course Jimmy Carter, a democrat, after seeing that IRANIANS succeeded on overthrowing decided to back the new leadership?



originally posted by: gortex
No , you have imposed sanctions on a Nation for geopolitical reasons.


So YOU claim. But claims are like hot air. There is lot's of it, and most of it are lies.


originally posted by: gortex
Perhaps because he realized it would be a stupid and costly thing to do , there's more mileage in squeezing Iran until either it or its people react.


So first you claim that POTUS Trump lied, and now you claim to know what was/is in his mind?...



originally posted by: gortex
Yeah , right.


Yes, right... Glad you can at least agree on something...














First off, I don’t think any of us like Clinton or Obama. Don’t let’s go there. I have posted plenty times how disgusting they are.

Second of all, stop trying. Our issues with Iran are political and have to do with ideology and power, Our’s not theirs. The us normally is closest allies with the worst dictatorships in the world. Saudi is the worst by far in the Middle East, and they’re our closest ally there. In South America our closest ally is Columbia, the most corrupt dictatorship in the Western Hemisphere. We install dictators and overthrow democracies all over the world, THATS our MO.

Which brings us to the shah. You are speaking about the most brutal dictator in the world at that time. He killed and oppressed his own people so much that they overthrew him. We installed him after we overthrew mossadegh. He was a democratically elected leader who led Iran during its most westernized and egalitarian period, totally secular, with protected rights for women. Used the oil profits for education and to help the people. That’s why we overthrew him. Know why Iran is strict Muslim now? Because the shah and his savak were so brutal and oppressive that Iranians wanted nothing to do with “western democratic life” after they saw what it lead to.

I really can’t believe you are speaking well of the shah, and can only think you’re trolling or have never read any real reports on him. Which honestly makes me wonder why I’m taking so much time replying to someone who couldn’t be more misguided on this issue.



posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 07:12 PM
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Ironic since these are the same lies that leftists around the world claim about Cuba during the time of Batista, when the fact is quite the opposite. Batista was a dictator to people like the castros whom resorted to violence, and even murders as the "revolutionaries" kept trying to violently depose Batista. Heck, the same could be said about Francisco Franco in Spain. Franco ended the left's violence and murder spree, even in the 80s you could still hear people talking about how it was safe to even go out at night during Franco's reign because he was tough on criminals. Franco was tough against the left, just like Batista was tough against the left in Cuba. But during both regimes both countries were the safest in the world and the most modernized.

Ironic that what you call "the worst dictatorship in the world" allowed women to attend schools and universities. Women were also allowed to wear bikinis in the presence of men.



But now, what you call "a democratic government" in Iran is one of the most despotic in the world. To this day homosexuals, lesbians etc are executed in the open. Even minors have been, and are executed... Now women are stoned to death if they dare look at another man, or even if the husband just claims she did.

WARNING, GRAPHIC VIDEO. Viewer discretion is adviced.





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posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 07:21 PM
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Your argument has nothing to do with what I’m saying. I made no statements about Batista, or Cuba, or Iran’s current government, which I certainly never called democratic. Thanks though. I’m guessing you think Reza Pahlavi was a great guy too. This actually explains perfectly why you guys like trump so much.



posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Your argument has nothing to do with what I’m saying. I made no statements about Batista, or Cuba, or Iran’s current government, which I certainly never called democratic. Thanks though. I’m guessing you think Reza Pahlavi was a great guy too. This actually explains perfectly why you guys like trump so much.


I made a comment on other regimes that you leftists all claim "are great". I find it ironic how you evade the facts I stated about Iran, but you come up and make claims that POTUS Trump is somehow evil or a dictator... lol



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posted on Jul, 26 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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Anyway, to keep things in perspective here is a brief historical lesson about Iran.



Was the shah a despot? It would be true to the radicals whom didn't want women to have rights, and whom wanted to control the nation through Sharia law. Same thing happened with Batista and the castro brothers and other revolutionaries, or with Francisco Franco and the left in Spain after the large majority of the left decided to go on a murder spree to murder religious people, even about 7,000 or so priests, as well as capitalists of all walks of life, killing in total maybe over 172,000 religious people and capitalists, plus who knows how many tens of thousands of others whom are still buried in the mass graves where the left-wing parties of Spain murdered and buried in unmarked mass graves the people they still had as prisoners...





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