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The 4 horsefaces of the Apocalypse don't get it.

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posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien
a reply to: Krakatoa

So should Trump leave then?


Tell him that then. Go ahead. Your free speech in this country allows him to do that too. I frankly don't care. What I care about is the accurate portrayal of his words. The media and many right here on ATS take his words and change them to meet their own narrative. Ignoring the true words when they are as public and easily displayed.


I am glad you see the hypocrisy and lies.


See it? That is what I am on about in this thread! One poster claimed he made a racist statement based upon skin color. He did not. And I called that out to correct that person from twisting the original tweet with their own bias (or one implanted in their head by the MSM).


Do you think Trump is too dumb to realize that his words will be seen as racist as he referred to only those women and not any other who disagree with Trump? Or he actually knew it would revitalizes his base? Even after Trump learned that those three women were born here, he still stand by his statement and not apologize. He may not actually be racist, but his words and actions speak volumes.




posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Krakatoa

Are you even living in the US?? I only ask because you don't seem to know who bernie sanders is, or what gender HE is.
I used him because his positions seem to align with the four women. If you are concerned about them being too "socialist", well he is socialist. If it's that they are saying mean things about the president, well so isnt he. If it's that they are quick to point out the flaws in our country, so does he. And, unlike your example, three of the four women were born in this country just like sanders was. They are a closer match. So, if telling these four women to go back to the country and fix it makes sense to you then telling it to sanders should also. And, if it doesn't then it seems that the only reason it wouldn't is that sanders is white the four women are not... and that in a nutshell is racism!


I misunderstood and thought you meant Sarah Sanders. Apologies.

Now, as for putting Bernie into the comparison, yes, I think it would apply to him as well. What is your point?



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:17 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

I made my point!! Read it.



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien
a reply to: Krakatoa

So should Trump leave then?


Tell him that then. Go ahead. Your free speech in this country allows him to do that too. I frankly don't care. What I care about is the accurate portrayal of his words. The media and many right here on ATS take his words and change them to meet their own narrative. Ignoring the true words when they are as public and easily displayed.


I am glad you see the hypocrisy and lies.


See it? That is what I am on about in this thread! One poster claimed he made a racist statement based upon skin color. He did not. And I called that out to correct that person from twisting the original tweet with their own bias (or one implanted in their head by the MSM).


Do you think Trump is too dumb to realize that his words will be seen as racist as he referred to only those women and not any other who disagree with Trump? Or he actually knew it would revitalizes his base? Even after Trump learned that those three women were born here, he still stand by his statement and not apologize. He may not actually be racist, but his words and actions speak volumes.


IMO, his statement was likely a "shoot from the hip" reaction. See, I cannot know what is in his mind, and neither can you or anyone else but him. What I can do it read his words verbatim and go by the exact words to understand the meaning. And those words NEVER mentioned skin color, ever. Which, as I stated earlier and repeatedly, was the point of my responses to that ATS poster. No more, no less.

You and others decided to broaden the conversation with hyperbole, whataboutisms, and other failing debate tactics.



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Krakatoa

I made my point!! Read it.


Humor me...tell me again where in his statement the word skin color was mentioned. Go ahead... READ IT!!



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: SpaceForceAlien

I don't even think he's realized that Puerto Rico is part of the US yet.



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

So he's dumb?
Nobody claimed that he mentioned skin color. The phrase "go back where you came from" when spoken to "people of color" has always been considered racist. And if Trump is smart, he knew that. Would you go up to a black man and tell him to go back to Africa?



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien
a reply to: Krakatoa

So he's dumb?
Nobody claimed that he mentioned skin color. The phrase "go back where you came from" when spoken to "people of color" has always been considered racist. And if Trump is smart, he knew that. Would you go up to a black man and tell him to go back to Africa?


Yes. the ATS poster I was responding to said EXACTLY THAT about skin color.
Here is a portion of the post below, emphasis mine.



I aint the one that is claiming that anyone hates this country......
I'm not calling everyone who doesn't see everything the way I do unpatriotic.
And I most certainly ain't telling complete strangers that they should go back to their own country based on their skin color. and yes, there's been a few native americans that have had strangers tell them to go back to their own country.
People can disagree with your messianic president and oppose him, it doesn't mean that they hate this country. They can oppose the policies of isreal, boycott their products if they wish to, encourage others too, it doesn't mean that they hate the jewish people or their country.
and, need I remind of all the things that trump has said about this country when obama was in office??

Link to full post: www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:31 PM
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A mentally unstable U.S. Congresswoman (yes..a member of CONGRESS!) RASHIDA TLAIB being removed from a meeting.

VidClip: twitter.com...

Well, how do you expect someone who yells "Impeach The MuthaFuker!" to act?

Republicans love you Rashida. Don't change a thing!




posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

If I went around my city telling everyone I met to go back to where they came from. More than like those that were white would think I am crazier than I actually am. Those that weren't would more than likely think I am racist, or against immigrants if they actually had a country to go back to.
So no, trump will never tell sanders to go back to where he came and fix his broken country... it just doesn't make any sense. But he chose to say it to these four women. What was the basis for him to pick these four women to insinuate that they had another country to go back to?



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

He isn't saying that Trump mentioned race.

Here's an example:


I worry that Trump's rhetoric sets a trend.



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Krakatoa

If I went around my city telling everyone I met to go back to where they came from. More than like those that were white would think I am crazier than I actually am. Those that weren't would more than likely think I am racist, or against immigrants if they actually had a country to go back to.
So no, trump will never tell sanders to go back to where he came and fix his broken country... it just doesn't make any sense. But he chose to say it to these four women. What was the basis for him to pick these four women to insinuate that they had another country to go back to?


Would all those people have been telling you how they hate this country, and working daily to get you fired from your job? See, the statement was not made in a vacuum. like yours.




posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien
a reply to: Krakatoa

He isn't saying that Trump mentioned race.

Here's an example:


I worry that Trump's rhetoric sets a trend.


Yes, that person was stupid. Were those he was targeting putting down the country and trying to get him fired? If not, then, it is wrong and out of context. There are a lot of stupid people on all sides here. My point AGAIN was the accurate representation of his words in this thread.



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien
a reply to: Krakatoa

He isn't saying that Trump mentioned race.

Here's an example:


I worry that Trump's rhetoric sets a trend.


Yes, that person was stupid. Were those he was targeting putting down the country and trying to get him fired? If not, then, it is wrong and out of context. There are a lot of stupid people on all sides here. My point AGAIN was the accurate representation of his words in this thread.


What's so accurate about them? Trump falsely accused those 4 women for hating America and Jews.



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: SpaceForceAlien
a reply to: Krakatoa

He isn't saying that Trump mentioned race.

Here's an example:


I worry that Trump's rhetoric sets a trend.


Yes, that person was stupid. Were those he was targeting putting down the country and trying to get him fired? If not, then, it is wrong and out of context. There are a lot of stupid people on all sides here. My point AGAIN was the accurate representation of his words in this thread.


What's so accurate about them? Trump falsely accused those 4 women for hating America and Jews.


Seriously?

If we are going to be rewriting history, I am done having this discussion. I don't get involved in fantasy delusions. I deal in the facts. Exactly what people said and do. Not what I think they did or might do if....

Have a good day/night.




edit on 7/20/2019 by Krakatoa because: fixed spelling errors



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:49 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Krakatoa

If he had said that same statement to Sanders, would it had made any sense? Why not??


Was she making disparaging remarks about the United States?

And what if he said it to...I dunno, perhaps Representative Mark Meadows (who was born on France)?

We can play the "what if" game all day. But when the sun sets, you cannot truthfully state that Trump mentioned skin color in his tweet. And you cannot stand up and admit that statement you made was incorrect.

Again, I wouldn't expect any less from the likes of you and those that follow BAMN.










Maybe you got the truth to stick this time with this one. Good points.



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:50 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

It's obvious President Trump didn't investigate the origins of these hateful heifers. It doesn't matter. They speak poorly of America, American Values, Israel, and the U.S. President.

The White House should make a little video with each of them saying the disparaging, hateful stuff...and add to it as they dig deeper holes for themselves. That's all that's needed for PATRIOTIC Americans to demand that AOC/OMAR/TLAIB removed from office.



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:50 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

And it's quite apparent by that post I wasn't talking about trump and the four congresswomen there!!



posted on Jul, 20 2019 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Yous seem to be working real hard to not only get these four congresswomen fired but shipped out of the country! And by the way some, much of the crap you are saying about them has little truth to it!!



posted on Jul, 21 2019 @ 12:21 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Yes, yous should make a video of it so we know what you are talking about and then some of us who actually have the time can track down the source and come back with what they actually said.
But for the record, if putting down the president is unamerican then that goes regardless of who that president is.. think Obama here...
And if speaking poorly of other countries like Israel is, well think about all those countries trump has called crapholes!
And ya know what... one of those American values, one that we hold most dear, is that we get to elect our representatives and it's rather hard to get rid of the without voting them out of office come election time without a very valid reason. And neither you or I have the ability to play a role in that for all four. I don't even get a say for one of them. This is America, that is how things run here. You have no say who represents parts of the country you are not a part of. Demand all you want.



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