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what Indonesian women fear about law granting men more wives

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posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 03:55 AM
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A little back history would include a bloody insurgency war that finally resulted in the Islamic separatist getting independence for their on little sliver of Indonesia called Aceh Province. Being good Suni devotees they installed their own Sharia laws and tax system and are now trying to pass a law that says men may have 4 wives.. Why any woman does not run from Islam as fast as she can will always be an eternal question in my mind. Also this is not just an Indonesian problem as in many places of S.E. Asia bombs and bullets are used to try and form their own state within a country, own laws and of course the power to tax under Sharia.
Full title is : Polygamy in Aceh: what Indonesian women fear about law granting men more wives


Aceh, on the northernmost tip of Sumatra, is the only province in Indonesia
which has special autonomy to enact sharia-based laws.


By most accounts they won this privilege on top of the 15,000 killed in the battle for Sharia over the years


“If this law is passed, polygamy would be part of the culture, just like sharia compliant dressing for women,” said Samsidar, an Acehnese women’s rights activist.
Polygamy, which has long existed in Aceh and the rest of the country, is becoming increasingly common with the rise of conservative Islam and the emergence of dating apps for men seeking a second wife.


Now that is interesting and you have to wonder how the dating app is structured. Maybe they have a list to sign up under ? Primary, Secondary, Third, and the ever wanted 4th wife position ? If you are dirt poor with no future maybe even 4th wife position might look attractive if you are starving ?


Aceh is Indonesia’s most religiously conservative province and under the conditions of its special autonomy, was granted the right to implement sharia law.

The province’s home-grown separatist Free Aceh movement waged a 29-year armed insurgency against the Indonesian government which left at least 15,000 people dead.

Hummm that is just about the same number that have been killed in the deep deep south of Thailand... This road map is being used all over Asia where the little darlings have gotten a foot hold. I figure in another 20 years of breeding and consolidation any neighboring province will get a taste of armed insurgency starting all over again.

www.scmp.com...



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posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 04:10 AM
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Any man that wants four wives has obviously never even had one!



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 05:04 AM
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originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
Any man that wants four wives has obviously never even had one!


The Chinese have a symbol for Disharmony. It is a house with two women under the roof..

Since the guys can beat their wives with a Sharia prescribed rod no bigger than a man's thumb if they step out of line, I would assume it is all smiles and harmony on the surface. If the women bitch all the guy has to say under Sharia is "I divorce you" three times and he is free to get another woman. Hummm Maybe Islam ain't so bad after all!! (sarc)

Men get very important pieces of the bodies cut off while sleeping around here for messing around.. Usually with the graphic details of a Duck or a Dog feasting upon the package. I never knew Ducks were carnivorous until I read such reports..



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 05:06 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

One is enough!



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 05:42 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky


Gluten for punishment, ref the post above....


My main question is where is the western social media feminists shouting down the matter???, the tumble weeds are rolling.

Of course it is far easier to make demands whilst living in a country that gives you everything than to actual champion a situation that really does affect women such as religious law being enforced that truly can make being a women hell.


funny old world ain't it......



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 05:58 AM
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I lived in a Muslim country (Malaysia) for many years, I met several men with multiple wives and even a few 2nd and 3rd wives. The only people who didn’t seem happy with the arrangement were the men hahaha.

Malaysia is fairly moderate, at the the middle and southern parts, and the women didn’t put up with any crap.
They got their own separate house, car, bills paid and a very healthy allowance. If the man didn’t pay up or mistreated the women he would lose face which is just about the worst thing that could happen to a man in Asia.

It basically comes down to finances, if you can afford more than one wife it’s all good but most men can’t so are luckily for them restricted to one.

I also remember discussing this with a proper devout Muslim I made friends with, he used to sell different candied nuts outside my hotel and also gave out Islamic propaganda, think Jehovah’s Witness material but Muslim.

He explained to me the line in the Koran that allows multiple wives
It reads something like “a man may have more than one wife if he is able to tear them all fairly and keep them happy”
The very next line reads “no man can keep more than 1 woman happy”
Words of the prophet himself, so it seems like Mo was being a bit tongue in cheek and it’s possible he didn’t expect to be taken seriously.

My time spent around Islam did not endear it to me, like all religions it built on myth and outright lies, not to mention that if alive today, Mo would certainly have made it into Epsteins little black book



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 06:25 AM
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Backward cultures which support men having multiple wives, and not one woman having multiple husbands. It's all just a reminder of the second class nature of women in society in these places. Often religion fixes and excuses these backward customs.

Oh, just to note, that a woman in an Islamic marriage - rather than a state marriage - starts at a disadvantage anyway. Not sure how it works in Indonesia, but in the UK a woman married under Islamic law and not having that marriage legaly registered, unwittingly places themselves outside of the protecton of the law, and places themselves at the mercy of men to make decsions on their behalf. It's all so... anti-woman.



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

How is that functionality different than open relationships in America, or hell some of the Mormon population still practices polygamy..

We do not prosecute polygamy here, we just don’t validate the marriage..


So how is that functionality different??

The only difference is that the 2-4th wives actually have legal standing towards getting their portion of the estate..


In America , kinda like gays used to be, the other wives would have zero right to the estate.



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

Very, very, very true..



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

I know this is far off subject, but wouldn’t payinga pornstar to bang you while your wife is 9 months pregnant worse than having multiple wives?!?


Seems to me , and I’m not a female so maybe most wouldn’t agree, but it seems to me a polygamist is FAR more moral than someone banging trashy prom stars while his wife was pregnant..



And stormy Daniels is a trashy porn star.. lots of gangbangs , inter racial, humiliation porn, exc..

Daniels isn’t even in my top 100 pornstars, lol.



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 06:36 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I’m with you... assuming everything is voluntary, if someone wants more husbands/wives that is their business..

Is that really worse than a constant cheater?!?

I don’t think so..


2) 1,000 years ago good luck finding a lot of marriages that we wouldn’t considered pedophilia today..

Really in every culture... and it just stopped less than 100 years ago..



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I’m with you... assuming everything is voluntary, if someone wants more husbands/wives that is their business..

Is that really worse than a constant cheater?!?

I don’t think so..


2) 1,000 years ago good luck finding a lot of marriages that we wouldn’t considered pedophilia today..

Really in every culture... and it just stopped less than 100 years ago..



Actually most of Europe had quite strict rules about the age of marriage, menstruation was considered the earliest a girl could get married, it did occasionally happen when girls were prepubescent but it was always a political thing and the girls generally stayed with their own families till they came of age.
Mo was doing a 9 year old who was prepubescent



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 06:58 AM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Malaysia is fairly moderate, at the the middle and southern parts, and the women didn’t put up with any crap.


My experience with Malaysia is I was good friends with a Malaysia citizen of Chinese descent. He often complained about cultural racism and government policies against Chinese Malaysians. He claimed the non-Chinese Malaysian Malaysians are very strong racists.

In terms of crap and women, I think we can all agree women are the stronger of the species.




posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 07:06 AM
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It reads something like “a man may have more than one wife if he is able to tear them all fairly and keep them happy” The very next line reads “no man can keep more than 1 woman happy” Words of the prophet himself

Didn't Mohammed have 9 wives?



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Malaysia is fairly moderate, at the the middle and southern parts, and the women didn’t put up with any crap.


My experience with Malaysia is I was good friends with a Malaysia citizen of Chinese descent. He often complained about cultural racism and government policies against Chinese Malaysians. He claimed the non-Chinese Malaysian Malaysians are very strong racists.

In terms of crap and women, I think we can all agree women are the stronger of the species.



All Malaysians are extremely racist, you have Malays, Chinese and Indians who each have completely seperate, parallel societies and they all hate each other.
It’s not as noticeable at the top end of their society but the extremely casual and overt displays of racism shocked me when I first got there.

Asians in general are really racist, they will all openly say how much the hate arabs and Africans, they probably say the same about whites when I wasn’t around haha.



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 07:20 AM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Asians in general are really racist, they will all openly say how much the hate arabs and Africans, they probably say the same about whites when I wasn’t around haha.


Asians racist? It's not like they call us gwáilóu or something like that.



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 07:29 AM
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The last I heard we weren't supposed to judge other cultures and push our standards and principles on anyone.

Doubly so with islam.

Let the feminists deal with this one.



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Asians in general are really racist, they will all openly say how much the hate arabs and Africans, they probably say the same about whites when I wasn’t around haha.


Asians racist? It's not like they call us gwáilóu or something like that.


Names for whites around SE Asia

Ang mo = red haired monkey
gaijan = pale ghost
Farang = some sort of yucky fruit
Barang = same as farang
Boleh = can’t remember but it’s not complimentary
Mat salleh = named after some bloke who screwed over the Mallaccans

I’m back in Cambodia for work atm and PC culture hasn’t really taken on over here hahaha



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




It reads something like “a man may have more than one wife if he is able to tear them all fairly and keep them happy” The very next line reads “no man can keep more than 1 woman happy” Words of the prophet himself

Didn't Mohammed have 9 wives?


Not sure but he definitely had a 9 year old one, Aisha, she’s a Muslim saint if I’m not mistaken



posted on Jul, 15 2019 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff


Please refer to me as 'Farang the Great' moving forward.





edit on 15-7-2019 by AugustusMasonicus because: network dude has no beer because Heels took it




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