Footprint of Sex Predator-Trafficker Jeffrey Epstein Is Growing and May Take Down Hundreds of VIP.

a reply to: carewemust

Clearly, something NEW and HUGE must have been brought to the attention of New York prosecutors to make them arrest Jeffrey Epstein again in 2019, after he was convicted and served jail time in 2008/2009.

Maybe it was the court order to release all documents and records in the civil suits against Epstein that caught their attention... which, by the way, we have yet to see... and has seemingly flown off everyone's radar.

And given that a mere two weeks before arresting Epstein, the Feds were in court arguing to keep all Epstein-related documents and records in the civil cases sealed, we really have to cut that window down to those two weeks... not that big fat window since the plea deal was made.

So what changed in those two weeks? The big fat bright pink elephant in the room is the "NEW and HUGE" court order to unseal those documents.

Let's not also forget the revelation that Epstein "provided information" to the Feds, as cited in the plea deal documentation, and that he reportedly "belonged to intelligence." So the Feds obviously and demonstrably have a vested interested in protecting their asset. (Is it any wonder Epstein is sitting in solitary???)

Add the fact that the daughter of our disgraced and fired former FBI Director -- still under investigation for criminal wrongdoing -- is one of the lead prosecutors in Epstein's case, and we have an even greater conflict of interest.

I'm also loathe to tar everyone associated with Epstein with the same broad brush. Not all may be "guilty" of anything, and/or not all may be "guilty" of the same crimes. If, as seems likely, Epstein was in the business of compromising folks for blackmail and/or intelligence purposes, then I would assume that the compromising situation would be tailored to their specific weaknesses and proclivities. There are other vices than sexually abusing young girls.

In any event, I don't trust the Feds. As always, my default position is that if the Feds are involved, they are to blame. As long as the truth is criminal, I have no reason to trust or believe anything from them, and every reason NOT to trust them.

Plus -- replacing my tinfoil hat with my astrologer's cap -- Mercury is retrograde, and has been since the arrest, so no information or communication can be trusted right now. Mercury will go direct on the 1st, at which point we'll start to get a better picture. After August 15, when Mercury leaves its retrograde shadow behind (the degree at which it went retrograde), we'll start to get a much clearer picture. So until then, I'll be watching, but taking it all with a grain of salt.

And even after that, I still won't trust the Feds.

a reply to: carewemust

Clearly, something NEW and HUGE must have been brought to the attention of New York prosecutors to make them arrest Jeffrey Epstein again in 2019, after he was convicted and served jail time in 2008/2009

The Jeffrey Epstein Case Was Cold, Until a Miami Herald Reporter Got Accusers to Talk

www.nytimes.com...

Julie K. Brown, an investigative journalist for The Miami Herald, expected to spend the week on the same emotionally brutal endeavor she has pursued for more than two years: interviewing women who say that, as girls, they were part of a sex ring run by the wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein. Months ago, she published a meticulously researched series of articles about a secret plea deal, engineered by a current member of President Trump’s cabinet, that helped Mr. Epstein evade federal charges related to the women’s accusations. Her work identified some 80 alleged victims and earned a slew of journalism prizes, including a George Polk Award in the category of Justice Reporting. She worked on the award-winning series with Emily Michot, a visual journalist at The Herald

She was working the story for yearss. Its called investigative journalism.
You know what they do when they are not making up stories about trump. LOL

It's gone from the news, so all good and back to Trump attacks and racism.

originally posted by: mikell
It's gone from the news, so all good and back to Trump attacks and racism.

It's gone from the news? Weird, It's on my aggregate's site every day I've looked. Maybe it's not front and center because they're waiting for new developments?

a reply to: mikell

I have the news streaming all the time on another tab.
Everyone is talking about it still.
Hearing on bail will take place today this morning.
Right this minute as a matter of fact.
Judge says he will hold off until Thurs regarding bond.
Some of his vitcims will speak to the judge before then.

Trumps name is mysteriously not on the logs, despite Trump admitted he's been on the flights.


This is just another 'look at your guy, my guy is innocent' bull#.


Because, we know Trump is not the kind of person who has sleaze around him or does sleazy acts himself...

Despite his young girl comments, paying for it, lying about it, despite melania herself was a teen model who was passed around and even did some porn freelance.


All rich and famous, except Trump and his circle, are definitely guilty... Trump has not and would never be involved in stuff like that... Right?

Right?


Mentalists.

originally posted by: WorkingCollective

originally posted by: BlackIbanez
Perhaps Epstein had a hand in the "suicides" of Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington? Definitely more to thier deaths that need to be brought into the light.

Also, OP's list of names from Twitter were sourced "from a friend", it seems abit convenient how they are all Trump critics. I thought unnamed sources were frowned upon?

There are enough confirmed , official lists readily available through MSM and the like. But I agree, this story is turning far too partisan than it should/needs.

edit: I can't see anything about being sourced from friends? The twitter link in OPs post does not mention found via a friend.

If you read through the Twitter thread linked in OP, several people ask where the list is sourced from, the Twitter OP replies two or three times that the list was"from a friend and unverified".
Edit: screenshot from Twitter...

a reply to: odzeandennz

I pointed out in my post that just because these people took flights on Epsteins jet doesnt mean they were involved or knew about any illicit activity.
This guy was rich and liked to have celebrity around him.

And as for trump not being mentioned, we already knew he was on some flights. I didnt notice if bill Clinton was on the list but again, we know he was on the jet multiple times.

I dont believe it's a coincidence that many of the names on the list are connected with Harvey Weinstein though. That points at a lifestyle patern.

originally posted by: carewemust
authorities are asking anyone who has flown on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet, known as Lolita Express, to come forward.

One thing...

How many planes did he have? I know from reading some of the stories it is at least two (the one Trump flew on the one time he did was not the Lolita Express plane).

Also, Just because someone didn't go to the island doesn't mean they are clean - lots of stuff apparently happened on the plane (Lolita) itself.

a reply to: odzeandennz

LOL that list is mysteriously all liberals too. You do not think that is real do you?

a reply to: tanstaafl

I know from reading some of the stories it is at least two (the one Trump flew on the one time he did was not the Lolita Express plane).

Of course trump wasnt on the lolita one. H a ha hah hahhahhaaahahahahha
Your dedication is admirable got to say that.
You guys would find a way to call his turds brown flowers.

Yeah he has two but he and trump lived in the same neighborhoods in NY and in FL so no one needed anything more than a car. No manifests needed.

originally posted by: BlackIbanez

originally posted by: WorkingCollective

originally posted by: BlackIbanez
Perhaps Epstein had a hand in the "suicides" of Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington? Definitely more to thier deaths that need to be brought into the light.

Also, OP's list of names from Twitter were sourced "from a friend", it seems abit convenient how they are all Trump critics. I thought unnamed sources were frowned upon?

There are enough confirmed , official lists readily available through MSM and the like. But I agree, this story is turning far too partisan than it should/needs.

edit: I can't see anything about being sourced from friends? The twitter link in OPs post does not mention found via a friend.

If you read through the Twitter thread linked in OP, several people ask where the list is sourced from, the Twitter OP replies two or three times that the list was"from a friend and unverified".
Edit: screenshot from Twitter...

I didn't ready enough, thanks for taking time to point out.

a reply to: Sillyolme

This reminds me of the kavanaugh hearing...

"He might have touched me"
"Pretty sure it might have been him"
"Maybe"

"Somebody told me once,,,I think"

I'll wait to judge until we get some actual proof.

originally posted by: FinallyAwake
I wonder how many of these names (if any) were oblivious to Epsteins activities?
If any of them were oblivious, they certainly aren't now 😕
I hope everyone (with prior knowledge to his activities) get what they deserve.

Everyone who has been following Epstein say they have never learned how he made his money. That points to illegality.

Also, Nancy Pelosi's daughter says that Epstein could take down a lot of top stars and politicians.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Sillyolme

This reminds me of the kavanaugh hearing...

"He might have touched me"
"Pretty sure it might have been him"
"Maybe"

"Somebody told me once,,,I think"

I'll wait to judge until we get some actual proof.

There's not been a hearing yet. You're mixing up internet forums (this) with a real hearing (kavanaugh), they can't really be compared. Yet.

a reply to: WorkingCollective

I'm not mixing them up.
So far we have just as much solid evidence as they had before the kavanaugh hearing.
Diddley squat.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: carewemust
I'm also loathe to tar everyone associated with Epstein with the same broad brush. Not all may be "guilty" of anything, and/or not all may be "guilty" of the same crimes. If, as seems likely, Epstein was in the business of compromising folks for blackmail and/or intelligence purposes, then I would assume that the compromising situation would be tailored to their specific weaknesses and proclivities. There are other vices than sexually abusing young girls.

This is something that made me sure ole Jeff is an intel asset from the beginning.

I've worked tangentially in this world.

We compromised assets all the time using whatever floated their boat.

Kiddie porn was numero uno on the "we struck gold" list.

Most anyone will do anything (and I mean ANYTHING) to not have that kinda thing come out.

But, I'm sure you're right that he has a lot of crap on a lot of targets. Drugs, financial crimes, straight up infidelity, homosexuality, all kinds of fetishes; people are into a sh!t ton of pervy stuff. It makes the job so much easier and I'm sure the playbook hasn't changed much since back then...

a reply to: 35Foxtrot

But, I'm sure you're right that he has a lot of crap on a lot of targets. Drugs, financial crimes, straight up infidelity, homosexuality, all kinds of fetishes; people are into a sh!t ton of pervy stuff. It makes the job so much easier and I'm sure the playbook hasn't changed much since back then...

Thank you for confirming with actual experience! That's how I've understood this compromising business to work, so I have to assume it's happening here as well. But I don't know personally... as in I've never been in that line of work...

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Trumps name is mysteriously not on the logs, despite Trump admitted he's been on the flights.

One flight, on a different (not the Lolita Express) plane, where he hitched a ride from Miami to NY.

Facts, and details, matter.

Because, we know Trump is not the kind of person who has sleaze around him or does sleazy acts himself.

Depends on your definition of sleaz. I haven't heard of anything sleazy that he has ever done. Certainly not in the pedo class of sleaz.

He is crass, yes, maybe even a bit of a trash talker, but sleaz? Not...

Despite his young girl comments, paying for it, lying about it, despite melania herself was a teen model who was passed around and even did some porn freelance.

All rich and famous, except Trump and his circle, are definitely guilty... Trump has not and would never be involved in stuff like that... Right?

Right?

Mentalists.

You mean as opposed to mental midgits like yourself?

Ever notice when the list of shady comes out, there are always vocal, active Trump haters.

Almost like the evil is trying to influence the average American against Trump.